Some Random One Piece CRT

[KingTempest]

Giolla, Charlotte Brulee, Caeser Clown & Buffalo

Both of these characters scale to Nami for surviving a lightning bolt from her.

Giolla:



Charlotte Brulee:



The same feat is true for Caeser Clown, Baby 5 and Buffalo who were struck directly by Nami's lightning. Of the three of them, the only one knocked out was Baby 5, so her not scaling even though she survived is somewhat reasonable.

Right now however Buffalo and Caeser Clown are scaling to City level. It doesn't make any sense for Brulee and Giolla to be Large Mountain level for the exact same feat that Buffalo and Caeser Clown went through.

This is correct, so I will add it into the ratings.

Although in the case of Buffalo, Caesar, and Baby 5, they were all electrocuted by 1 blast, so I'm assuming the potency would be split 3 ways. That would be mountain level for all of them I'm presuming.

Ideo & Don Sai

Sai survived an attack from Monkey D. Luffy which is why he has the durability rating he has:



Ideo, who survived an attack from Chinjao the same way as Sai, should be scaling as well instead of his current rating:

Sai was conscious and was still able to watch the fight. Ideo was incapacitated from the punch, shown by the fact that Sai was still commenting on the fight, but Ideo's eyes. were rolled back and he was just floating with his mouth open as if he was incapacitated.

Additionally, Ideo was capable of harming Don Sai during their fight in the coliseum and Don Sai currently has Large Mountain level durability.

This would be inconsistent with the scaling portrayed in the small scene.
Chinjao and Gear 2nd Luffy (if not base) are considered as equals. Same as Sai and Ideo.

If Ideo ends up scaling to that value, this means that he will scale to Chinjao and Luffy, who incapacitated him.

Another thing is that this means that both Sai and Ideo end up scaling to Chinjao and Luffy, even though Sai was stating his mass inferiority to Chinjao.

Nami



Why "presumably took hits from Amande"? When did Nami have to take hits from Amande?

Removing, I don't remember my thought process when I added that.

Zoro



This justification should be more specific.

Durability: Island level (Can block hits from those who can match his AP. Took fairly minor damage from Issho's gravity attacks which could overpower Gear 2nd + 3rd Luffy)

King



This justification should be more specific.

Durability: Island level (As a physical fighter, he can withstand the force of his own physical attacks.)

Momonga



Why should Momonga be comparable to Vergo and Smoker? Since when are all Vice Admirals comparable to each other?

That's the current justification on his profile. I'll remove it

This justification should be more specific.

Usopp



This justication should be more specific.

Attack Potency: Varies (Uses various types of weapons and special ammunition [see list below]), at most City level (He uses his weapons to fight and defeat enemies who are physically more powerful than him and can harm him)

Orlumbus



You can't scale Attack Potency from Durability that way. And where is the evidence that he isn't weaker than the other members of the Grand Fleet?

Comparable to the other members of the tournament.

I want to check them with you before I implement them in the sandbox.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Why does katakuri have possibly Island level dura with haki?
Also both of Tsuru's keys should say "At least Large Mountain Level"

Also off of Roronoa's argument, trebol should maybe get a possibly large mountain level ap

 

[KingTempest]

Katakuri blocked G4th Luffy better than Doffy did.
Aight.

Trebol would get the possibly then

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Katakuri blocked G4th Luffy better than Doffy did.
Aight.

Trebol would get the possibly then

Okay, then it should be fine, as long it is specified that oven has better dura than cracker and kata without haki, which I think it already says so it should be fine

Yeah trebol should get it then, but as for usopp scaling, obviously since usopp took multiple shots but ultimately did get bodied, he should stay at a city level durability

 

[CinCameron20]

Katakuri blocked G4th Luffy better than Doffy did.
Aight.

Disagree. They both did just about the same. The only difference being that Katakuri refused to let himself land on his back, and Doflamingo was already hurt quite badly, yet still recovered fairly quickly.

Also, slight problem with Doflamingo's AP description. His Bullet String is described as "drawing blood from Law", but it went completely through his shoulder. Personally, I'd say the current description is an understatement.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

So what else is left to do? I just wanna make sure everything is good so nothing gets delayed

 

[Damage3245]

I need to go through KT's response to the issues I brought up. Will get to it as soon as I can.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

I need to go through KT's response to the issues I brought up. Will get to it as soon as I can.

My apologies if you feel rushed, take your time bro.

 

[GuildZero]

so will katakuri be island level also

 

[StrawHatArslan]

so will katakuri be island level also

ap yes, possibly with haki durability

 

[GuildZero]

ap yes, possibly with haki durability

ok thanks

 

[StrawHatArslan]

ok thanks

baseline 6-C btw, everyone is baseline 6-C, except hody jones underwater whos 7.8 GT


If you ever make a 6-C match with them, via the upgrades going through, don't make a stomp match, if you make like a huge ap diff adv, unequalize speed at least with someone with higher ap but far slower

 

[GuildZero]

baseline 6-C btw, everyone is baseline 6-C, except hody jones underwater whos 7.8 GT


If you ever make a 6-C match with them, via the upgrades going through, don't make a stomp match, if you make like a huge ap diff adv, unequalize speed at least with someone with higher ap but far slower

alright. im really happy that one piece characters are finally getting the island level rating. i wouldn't try to make a stomp match anyways so no need to worry there

 

[StrawHatArslan]

alright. im really happy that one piece characters are finally getting the island level rating. i wouldn't try to make a stomp match anyways so no need to worry there

yeah, it's about time for the mid tiers getting higher, the god tiers have been back to country level for 4 months which is really good for us, and now the mid tiers are going to island level, you can look at this sandbox to see all the characters getting updated, if you have any questions just lmk here

KingTempest16/One Piece Dressrosa Revision

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[GuildZero]

yeah, it's about time for the mid tiers getting higher, the god tiers have been back to country level for 4 months which is really good for us, and now the mid tiers are going to island level, you can look at this sandbox to see all the characters getting updated, if you have any questions just lmk here

KingTempest16/One Piece Dressrosa Revision

vsbattles.fandom.com

alright thanks.

 

[Eminiteable]

I request that nobody update any sandbox in my name, and that if you have anything to add or fix, please inform me in here

@StrawHatArslan I know you saw this message, please follow what KingTempest has asked.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

@StrawHatArslan I know you saw this message, please follow what KingTempest has asked.

Oh crap my bad, I just added the thing to oven which I realized was removed where his durability says “than cracker and Katakuri” so I added the with haki part to katakuri

 

[CinCameron20]

Just real quick, is it okay for me to add Afterimage creation on Doflamingo's page? It was discussed a while ago, and I forgot the verdict, but basically, he has shown multiple instances of leaving after-images in his original position, where Luffy would attack.

For reference: Chapters 782 (page 8), 783 (page 15), and 784 (page 15) are just to name a few.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Just real quick, is it okay for me to add Afterimage creation on Doflamingo's page? It was discussed a while ago, and I forgot the verdict, but basically, he has shown multiple instances of leaving after-images in his original position, where Luffy would attack.

For reference: Chapters 782 (page 8), 783 (page 15), and 784 (page 15) are just to name a few.

I’m fine with that

 

[RazumaHiroki]

Just real quick, is it okay for me to add Afterimage creation on Doflamingo's page? It was discussed a while ago, and I forgot the verdict, but basically, he has shown multiple instances of leaving after-images in his original position, where Luffy would attack.

For reference: Chapters 782 (page 8), 783 (page 15), and 784 (page 15) are just to name a few.

Sure. I'm absolutely fine with that either

 

[KingTempest]

If yall want to make casual talk about Vs Threads and the "finally Katakuri is 6-C", then go do that in the general discussion. This is a CRT, not a social club

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Rn I don’t think anything is left besides the waiting on damage

 

[Damage3245]

I'll get to the other points later, but to address some of them now:

Durability: Island level (Can block hits from those who can match his AP. Took fairly minor damage from Issho's gravity attacks which could overpower Gear 2nd + 3rd Luffy)

Why do we need the first bit of that justification? It's too vague.

Attack Potency: Varies (Uses various types of weapons and special ammunition [see list below]), at most City level (He uses his weapons to fight and defeat enemies who are physically more powerful than him and can harm him)

As I said, this needs to be more specific. How can we verify this if you don't say who he has harmed?

Comparable to the other members of the tournament.

I don't see how standing side by side with them makes him comparable to them?

I think it would be safer to put Orlumbus as "Unknown" like Leo.

Durability: Island level (As a physical fighter, he can withstand the force of his own physical attacks.)

That's fine.

Removing, I don't remember my thought process when I added that.
That's the current justification on his profile. I'll remove it

Okay, noted.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

I'll get to the other points later, but to address some of them now:



Why do we need the first bit of that justification? It's too vague.



As I said, this needs to be more specific. How can we verify this if you don't say who he has harmed?



I don't see how standing side by side with them makes him comparable to them?

I think it would be safer to put Orlumbus as "Unknown" like Leo.



That's fine.



Okay, noted.

Yeah I agree with your views

 

[KingTempest]

Why do we need the first bit of that justification? It's too vague.

Fair, I'll remove it

As I said, this needs to be more specific. How can we verify this if you don't say who he has harmed?

Now we need an alternative for his AP

I don't see how standing side by side with them makes him comparable to them?

I think it would be safer to put Orlumbus as "Unknown" like Leo.

Valid choice then

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Fair, I'll remove it

Now we need an alternative for his AP

Valid choice then

I think we can make his ap just "At Least 7-C" from PTS, or since nobody refuted cin's points, we can use him hurting buffalo as his AP.

 

[KingTempest]

Nvm, I found some (thank you Emin)

 

[KingTempest]

Other than the ones I've disagreed on, I've revised the sandbox to fit the agreed views of me and Damage.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Reasoning looks pretty good to me

 

[KingTempest]

Why do we need the first bit of that justification? It's too vague.

Would it be less vague if we linked who it was referring to (Killer)?

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Just real quick, is it okay for me to add Afterimage creation on Doflamingo's page? It was discussed a while ago, and I forgot the verdict, but basically, he has shown multiple instances of leaving after-images in his original position, where Luffy would attack.

For reference: Chapters 782 (page 8), 783 (page 15), and 784 (page 15) are just to name a few.

Link why didn't you just create a thread?

 

[StrawHatArslan]

What are the other issues you have damage? If you didn’t mention them

 

[CinCameron20]

Link why didn't you just create a thread?

it's such a minor thing that I would expect to only pop up in a bigger thread.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

it's such a minor thing that I would expect to only pop up in a bigger thread.

This thread is kinda big...

 

[Damage3245]

What are the other issues you have damage? If you didn’t mention them

Will be responding to the rest of KT's post soon.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Noticed an error, lmk if I'm wrong, but it says capone is High 7-A+ with firearms, but for perospero's candy wall it's durability is only High 7-A, but the reasoning is that it tanked capone's attacks, so shouldn't the wall also be High 7-A+ ?

 

[Damage3245]

Noticed an error, lmk if I'm wrong, but it says capone is High 7-A+ with firearms, but for perospero's candy wall it's durability is only High 7-A, but the reasoning is that it tanked capone's attacks, so shouldn't the wall also be High 7-A+ ?

Technically speaking he used two different weapons for those two feats.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

These are a lot of upgrade so, won't we have to specifically list it in the notes who scales to what value?

For example, there are high 7-A'S that are 1 GT, and some that are 2 GT


For the 1 GT's for example like Gear second luffy we say


"The Lowest High 7-A's like Gear Second Luffy are upscaled from Monster Hody (1 Gigaton)"

and for the 2 GT'S we say

"The Highest High 7-A's like Sanji are 2x Stronger than the Lowest High 7-A's (2 Gigatons)"


same thing with the low High 7-A+'s who are 3.9 GTS, and the only high High 7-A+ like Hyouzou who is 4 GTS

And for the upscaling I assume we say the reasoning for each, zoro, sanji, and luffy

"The 6-C's like Gear 4th Boundman Luffy are Upscaled far higher From Gear Third Luffy (4.3 Gigatons)"

"The 6-C's like Roronoa Zoro are Upscaled far Higher than Energy Steroid Amped Hyouzou (4.3 Gigatons)"


This is just a way to show the people who see the page why people scale to what, so I just wanted to ask.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Shouldn't smoothie get possibly large mountain+ durability? logically since she should scale above daifuku for being a sweet commander and be relative to katakuri and cracker in dura

 

[KingTempest]

Also, slight problem with Doflamingo's AP description. His Bullet String is described as "drawing blood from Law", but it went completely through his shoulder. Personally, I'd say the current description is an understatement.

Revised, sorry for not implementing that when you asked