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Some Random One Piece CRT
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I agree. It's similar to how fujitora isn't scaling to zoro for hurting him since he's 3.9 GT, not much off of 4.3 and getting overwhelmed by one sword
The same should go for basil.
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Bruh I've never realized that one piece had power cliffing this big, doflamingo was like a super challenge and stronger than everyone and suddenly he's fodder in wano arc.
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lmao I thought it was a plothole that kin'emon is stronger than him but he never used haki, same with kanjuro and others lol
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It's also a shock that snakeman is weaker than gear third, but that's just how the feats are IG
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The introduction of these multipliers is partially responsible for changing up so many characters.
Diamante, Vergo and Pica are all apparently 32x stronger than Trebol now if I'm not mistaken, which is hilarious.
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The fighter squad captain, assault squad captain, and the rokushiki master have 32x more AP than the dude who owns the "special powers team" with 3 members with unknown ratings;
AP isn't everything.
AP isn't everything.
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You got any feats for trebol being relative to them?
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Yall wanna get to page 14 talking about everything irrelevant
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Just pointing out how funny I find it.
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its unfortunate but the feats do be like that dude
just like gear third > snakeman
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If you think about it, Trebol doesn't have any good feats comparable to Vergo (Doflamingo most trusted man), Pica (a literal walking mountain man) and Diamante (Literally the champion of the colosseum). What is Trebol again? Nothing remotely close to these mentioned above and nor can I see him fighting against base Luffy without his "body thingy trick" which was the main reason why Law, Usopp and Luffy couldn't hurt him in the first place
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Let's remember everyone under Trebol's division is unknown and his division is the main division that is separated from AP ratings
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Do we have enough admins looking at this, or do we need more staff
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This is supported by 2 statements.
1. When Doflamingo was stressing about Issho and said that him + the crew defeating Issho wouldn't be a difficult task, Pica was confident in his ability to defeat him.
2. When he fought Zoro, he said he was invincible when covered in Fullbody Haki.
This is obviously an NLF, but we could take this to mean "invincible to those who I know their power".
So oof, what r we doing
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Scaling pica to the KE of his golem
that would support him being confident of taking down Fuji ( since the KE of his golem iirc is 60+ Gigatons while fujis strongest meteor is 46 Gigatons) and him being the strongest member of the group.
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Wtf.Scaling pica to the KE of his golem
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Trebol didn't have any actual feats to compare him to Diamante, Vergo, and Pica, but you all are really going to ignore Robin's statement about his physical abilities and thinking it was a risk trying anything with Sugar while he was present?
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"Far above any normal human" is not impressive. The average fishman is 10x the strength of the average human. Fishmen are far above any normal human.
"Observational abilities" I didn't even notice that.
"Observational abilities" I didn't even notice that.
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1 statement tbf and pretty sure she is saying that to warn the tontatta not really sure if she herself is afraid of trebol’s abilities .
Not like she is saying his abilities are more than her own or a more direct statement .
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Bro can we leave this pica thing to another thread? I doubt anyone would accept pica > Doflamingo .-.
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We gon act like she can't just pull a chapter 437 on Trebol and knock him out with ease?
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I'm supposed to care about other people's incredulous opinions why?
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I think another 5 pages on why pica is actually a god tier is what we need.
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Maybe dura...
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What Robin was trying to say is "don't drop your guard, Trebol is a very dangerous man." Judging by her reaction she wanted Usopp to not underestimating him, nothing suggests he's as strong as Vergo, Pica and Diamante, she simply said he's stronger than an average human being, otherwise Robin would've implied that he's as strong as the monster trio or even stronger.
Also can you truly say with utmost confidence that Trebol can keep up with base/G2 Luffy, Law, Sanji (without RS) and Zoro.
Featswise, Trebol hasn't shown anything even remotely close to Pica or Vergo's level, I stand by my point. It's not ridiculous to think that AP-wise they are not always equally strong, DFs does play a big role as well as how you use. Trebol is rather a cautious and cunning person, given that even Luffy was surprised why he couldn't "hit him" it's simple that he has a tendency to rely on his "Body".
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This may be true, but it still doesn't change the fact that High 7-A Robin genuinely saw Trebol as a threat because of his physical abilities. She was even shown sweating while talking about how dangerous it was to try anything with him around. Furthermore, while he didn't get to show any feats comparable to them during Dressrosa, it makes no sense to have Trebol only 7-B while Diamante and Pica are High 7-A. There's just no way he's actually that far weaker than the two of them when that's never actually implied in the story at all. I also don't think he should have a lower rating than one of Doflamingo's lower ranked crew members like Monet (High 7-A).
Robin apparently did.
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Considering Robin takes on Trebol multiple times after this, I agree she's not afraid of Trebol's abilities. That wasn't what I was trying to say. All I'm saying is that her statement suggests that Robin considers Trebol a serious threat.
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Considering that he's part of the "special abilities squad", I wouldn't put that as an AP justification.
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Feats are feats and no feat can put him at h7a
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Keep in mind, a threat doesn't always equate to strength, it can also mean he's capable of singlehandedly ruining their entire plan.
Take the tenryuubito as an example, one tenryuubito pose a threat to all pirates in Sabaody Archipelago (in this example, a threat here means social status).
Regarding Trebol, he is definitely the kind of person who pose a threat to their plan, as well as having physical abilities above an average human being, considering that Robin is a cautious person she wanted Usopp and Leo to remain cautious about Trebol.
Take the tenryuubito as an example, one tenryuubito pose a threat to all pirates in Sabaody Archipelago (in this example, a threat here means social status).
Regarding Trebol, he is definitely the kind of person who pose a threat to their plan, as well as having physical abilities above an average human being, considering that Robin is a cautious person she wanted Usopp and Leo to remain cautious about Trebol.
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And nothing suggests Trebol's not as strong as Vergo, Pica, and Diamante either. It makes no sense for him to be that far weaker than them.
You do know that the physical abilities of the M3 themselves are also "far beyond any normal human's", right? Robin's statement may not be implying Trebol is as strong as the M3, but it's definitely implying he's a monster in his own right. He was also suggested to be a monster a second time when Robin referred to Level 4 as the 'Battlefield for Monsters', which was where guys like Doflamingo, Trebol, Luffy, Law, Kyros, and Diamante were fighting at the time.
Yes, with utmost confidence I do think he could keep up with those guys. Unlike you and some others I don't think Trebol's weaker or at least dramatically weaker than the rest of Doffy's Chief Officers.
I already acknowledged that Trebol didn't actually show any feats comparable to Pica, Diamante, or Vergo during Dressrosa, but that's on Oda. And I stand by my point that nothing in the story suggests that Trebol isn't as strong AP-Wise as the other Chief Officers just because the author didn't let him show off in a proper battle like he let the other Officers do. If he was, then Doffy wouldn't have trusted him with the important job of guarding Sugar. He could've easily given the task to either Pica or Diamante.
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Base Luffy with no haki while injured kicked Trebol through all his snot and sent him flying and said "stay out of this".
Robin scales to Gear 2nd Luffy.
Trebol scaling up there is a no.
Trebol and his squad is full of non AP fighters.
Giolla turns people into drawings.
Sugar turns people into toys.
Viola can see far.
Trebol's entire team has unknown ratings because they're meant to not be AP fighters.
Now he gets 1 statement and he's supposed to scale that high because of it, when everything else says otherwise?
Robin scales to Gear 2nd Luffy.
Trebol scaling up there is a no.
No.
Trebol and his squad is full of non AP fighters.
Giolla turns people into drawings.
Sugar turns people into toys.
Viola can see far.
Trebol's entire team has unknown ratings because they're meant to not be AP fighters.
Now he gets 1 statement and he's supposed to scale that high because of it, when everything else says otherwise?
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bro we literally said not everything is ap. It could easily be referring to him being untouchable by people, which does make sense in hindsight. AP isn't everything, not to mention trebol was the one who gave doffy his DF, so of course Doflamingo would respect him highly and give him a high status in the family, and his ability is dangerous, it can stick people, and he's seemingly intang to even haki, which was a trick people couldn't get by.
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I get what you're saying, but seeing as how Trebol's physical abilities was the first thing Robin brought up, I think a threat equating to strength is the case here.
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If your suggesting Trebol is on the same level as Vergo and others than it is on you to fulfill your burden of proof. 1 statement that can be interpreted many different ways is just not enough evidence to prove said claim.
With the feats we have seen it’s just not coming to the conclusion that trebol is as powerful as Vergo and others, they have way more consistent feats of power and portrayal that trebol fails to compare too.
With the feats we have seen it’s just not coming to the conclusion that trebol is as powerful as Vergo and others, they have way more consistent feats of power and portrayal that trebol fails to compare too.
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I decided to read the scene and Robin's concern is completely taken out of context. she's concerned for the Tonatta's as Trebol was able to view a fly from far away telling her that Trebol would undoubtedly notice them. Trebol has no reason to scale to Robin for this.
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