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Me n Tracer took up 200 of them 0_0
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Naruto Part II Revisions (Multipliers/Calculations)
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So, hypothetically, if we didn't scale a Bijuu's physicals to their TBBs, what would we scale them to?
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Fr tho lol
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Remember when I said the War Arc would add seven more pages to this thread? It’s already added five lol
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So are there any other counters to the 25x multiplier for KN0? Cause if not, I could go ahead and use it (and it’ll make some scaling much less of a pain in the ass).
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And it'll probably add 7 more UwU.
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Only one is that CS2 Sasuke is 10x multiplier from base and he matched w/ Naruto in base and in KN1, so idk
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Well, ig making the scaling easier isn’t the right way to describe it.
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That's actually a good ass question.
Tbh idk why we scaled it to their strongest attack in the first place.
I guess just find a dura feat for Killer B or another Bijuu, throw a multiplier on it, and scale them all off that.
Minimum it would be is 7-A+, max is 6-C based on any other info.
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Wait you're right. They're comparable both in base and when using their power ups so logically their powerup's multiplier should be similar.
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Wasn't base Naruto weaker than Sasuke at the VOTE? iirc Sasuke was dominating him until he used Kyuubi's chakra right? Plus, I think CS1 is also a separate amp than CS2 (10x), so Sasuke's superior base and several amps could POSSIBLY even things out.
If I'm wrong about anything though, then forget it. I haven't read that fight in a long time in all honesty.
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Actually we have Base Sasuke = KN0 Naruto rn.
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I think minimum should be High 7-A. The Bijuus should be superior to Sage Mode Naruto.
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Sorry if you already explained this, but where's the 7-A+ coming from? AFAIK we have no 7-A+ calcs anymore.
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You’re right, CS2 is a 10x amp ON TOP of CS1, not base.
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So CS1 is 2.5x over base
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That would actually kinda make sense tbh.So CS1 is 2.5x over base
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Honestly, CS1 never seemed to be too big of an amp, so that makes sense.So CS1 is 2.5x over base
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Sage Mode isn’t 10x though. It’s OVER 10x. So it still works.
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Wouldn't this downgrade base pain Naruto? Since Naruto's rating were based on dividing the Rasenshuriken calc by 10 IIRC
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Nope, backscaling from multipliers isn't allowed. He's 7-A scaling from Kakashi and Sakura.
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So let’s use the 25x multiplier for a sec.
Base Naruto scales to baseline 7-A. 100 megatons.
KN4 would be over 25x stronger, over 2.5 gigatons. So High 7-A.
A 1.5x difference is enough to upscale to a + rating or the next tier. High 7-A+ is 2.65 gigatons, which is 1.06x (1.1x rounding up) away from where KN4 would be at.
So Sage Mode, which is stronger, would be High 7-A+/2.65 gigatons.
KN6 is stronger, and then KCM is stronger than that, which would make it ‘At least High 7-A+’ since we now have a 1.6 difference between Sage Mode and baseline 6-C. The Edo Jinchūriki then become ‘At least High 7-A+’ physically, although whether that’s in V2 or BM is up for debate.
Base Naruto scales to baseline 7-A. 100 megatons.
KN4 would be over 25x stronger, over 2.5 gigatons. So High 7-A.
A 1.5x difference is enough to upscale to a + rating or the next tier. High 7-A+ is 2.65 gigatons, which is 1.06x (1.1x rounding up) away from where KN4 would be at.
So Sage Mode, which is stronger, would be High 7-A+/2.65 gigatons.
KN6 is stronger, and then KCM is stronger than that, which would make it ‘At least High 7-A+’ since we now have a 1.6 difference between Sage Mode and baseline 6-C. The Edo Jinchūriki then become ‘At least High 7-A+’ physically, although whether that’s in V2 or BM is up for debate.
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So it looks like Sage Mode Naruto will get a + on his rating now.
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Didn't he already have that though?
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The current scaling would land him at High 7-A, but if the 25x multiplier is used he'll be High 7-A+.
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For 7-A not High 7-A
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7-A+ in base? If that's the case SM Naruto would be straight up 6-C even with the 10x multiplier.
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No, Hurricane is referring to the current stats on the profile, which have SM Naruto at 7-A+.
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He means the old (and now invalid) ratings had Sage Mode at 7-A+ if I’m understanding correctly.
Edit: Nvm, UchihaSlayer explained it first.
Edit: Nvm, UchihaSlayer explained it first.
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No, in the previous scaling before any of this. Sage Mode was at 7-A+
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Oh my apologies then.
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I think we're getting ahead of ourselves with these unofficial multipliers.
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Yes, after the ritual Base Sasuke was much stronger than Naruto and was still able to beat him down even when he used Vermilion Mode/KN0
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It’s not unofficial though, it’s just taking what Kakashi said. If Kurama’s chakra makes Naruto go from 4x to 100x, that’s a 25x increase.
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That doesn't mean it's just KN0 though.
And it doesn't mean the AP increase follows equally to the chakra increase.
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Anyways, if we went with the scale I just gave, the tier of the Obito-amped BM jinchūriki depends on what form we scale to KCM.
If we scale V2 to KCM, then BM would upscale to baseline 6-C. So their tiers would be something like ‘6-C, higher with Bijuudama.’
If we scale BM to KCM, then it would be ‘High 7-A+, 6-C with Bijuudama.’
If we scale V2 to KCM, then BM would upscale to baseline 6-C. So their tiers would be something like ‘6-C, higher with Bijuudama.’
If we scale BM to KCM, then it would be ‘High 7-A+, 6-C with Bijuudama.’
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