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So as of right now the mid tiers of the verse such as bang, golden sperm, Platinum sperm, flashy flash, post darkshine garou etc. is currently at High 7-A. I believe they are extremely lowballed and they should be rated a lot higher. For example the scaling chain for post darkshine garou goes like this:
Evil Eye - 1.032 Gigatons of TNT (Large Mountain level)<<<Gums<<Vomited Fuhrer Ugly=Darkshine<<(A one-shot difference) Golden sperm<Platinum Sperm<Post Darkshine Garou. There's obviously a huge difference in strength for characters like platinum sperm, garou ,ff and the baseline Large mountain lvl which they currently scale to. So I have some logical scaling I think would make sense to scale them to .

1. Low 6B Fubuki
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The calc for genos' self destruction above is calced at 6B . This scales to Fubuki who after getting stronger was able to contain this power inside of Genos with her telekinesis. She then tried to do the same thing and contain Tatsumaki here but it was easily flipped back on her as well as bang and bomb. Tatsumaki seconds later, tried this on Fuhrer Ugly, but he broke out of it. Fuhrer Ugly should scale to 3x Fubuki's feat due to tatsumaki outputting that much times the power to contain the 3

2. Possibly High 6C Golden S
Base form
Orochi should scale above Goukestu who is possibly 866 Gigatons of TNT (Large Island level+). Murata stated here that he's unsure who's stronger between Golden Sperm and Orochi, which confirms that Golden Sperm is at least on par with Orochi. At least that was the case before the redraw. But even with the redraw this wouldn’t affect Golden S scaling above the likes of Gouketsu. At the time when the statement was made Orochi was massively stronger than Gouketsu and Gouketsu was already dead, and if Golden s was equal to Orochi, then Golden S should be stronger than Gouketsu. The point is that it doesn't matter which version of Orochi Golden S is on par with because both versions should be massively above Gouketsu. He also stated that Black Sperm wouldn't be afraid of Orochi even after seeing his power further implying golden s could've taken on Orochi back then.
I also think we should remove the possibly rating for a likely or a solid rating on Gouketsu's profile because its blatantly stated that genos can read high energy bodies which we also see him do in the manga numerous times and it has never shown to be contradicted. So genos's judgment should be correct. I see it as case like All might stating that over 300 punches in his weakened state are comparable to 5 punches in his prime(Both are statements made by a reliable character to indirectly tell the viewers how strong a character is).
Also the meteor is probably small country lvl. The calc for the meteor comes out to 866 Gigatons of TNT(which is 86.6% of what is needed to destroy a small country).This calc only took into consideration the destruction of City Z. The fact that the meteor was stated here to affect cities outside of City Z, tells me that the meteor was probably outputting small country levels of power which would be consistent with Fubuki's feat.

3. Black S and Homeless Emperor scaling to Gouketsu
#2 is more consistent if we look here. Psykos thinks that if Black S and Homeless Emperor work together, they could defeat anyone, which would include guys like Rover, Elder Centipede and Gouketsu. This means that Black S and Homeless should be relative to those guys or at least able to damage them.

4. Post Darkshine Garou scaling above Gouketsu
Post Darkshine Garou should scale above Gouketsu due to these statements made by Gyoro Gyoro. Basically, Gyoro Gyoro says that Garou is curently only a Half-Monster with incredible potential and should be as strong as Orochi if not stronger when he becomes a Complete Monster. This means he should be way stronger than Gouketsu. No, this wouldn't mean he scales to full powered Orochi as not even Psykos was aware of Orochi's true power, as stated here.

5.Boros 3 generals scaling relative to each other.
Melzargard should scale to Geryuganshoop who is 31.8 Gigatons of TNT (Island level) because of the fact that he was planning to fight an opponent that defeated Groribas(the strongest of the 3). This implies he's no slouch and is somewhat relative to them. Also Boros who has Power Detection wanted Geryuganshoop and Melzargard to deal with Groribas' killer, which means Melzargard shouldn't be incomparable weaker then Groribas. Otherwise sending Melzargard would be like sending a child to go fight a tank.


Supportive Reasoning

It would only make sense that Platinum S is in the country level or higher ranges based on the fact that Garou goes from taking 2 shots to defeat him here to damaging Sage Centipede(who has concrete continental scaling) in the exact same chapter. This makes more sense considering Platinum S is the one that pushed Garou to adapt to Sage's lvl in the first place. It wouldn't make sense for Garou to randomly jump from baseline large mountain lvl to continental in half a chapter. Honestly Patinum S downscaling from sage would make more sense than that.
 
The calc for genos' self destruction above is calced at 6B . This scales to Fubuki who after getting stronger was able to contain this power inside of Genos with her telekinesis. She then tried to do the same thing and contain Tatsumaki here but it was easily flipped back on her as well as bang and bomb. Tatsumaki seconds later, tried this on Fuhrer Ugly, but he broke out of it. Fuhrer Ugly should scale to 3x Fubuki's feat due to tatsumaki outputting that much times the power to contain the 3
This doesn't seem to abide by our multiplier standards.

Also, not seeing anything there showing Fubuki containing the full potency of Genos' explosion. She stopped him before he exploded so no good reason to scale her to 6-B or Low 6-B there.
 
This scales to Fubuki who after getting stronger was able to contain this power inside of Genos with her telekinesis
She does not. The scan states that Genos' cooling ability has been restored, which is what stops the runaway thermal reaction. All Blizzard did was restore that system within Genos.

Also like.... Blizzard does not scale to Tier 6 at all. This is the same Saga where Do-S messed her up in a fight and like an hour beforehand she barely block an attack from Rover.
At least that was the case before the redraw.
So then the statement is unusable and trying to use it would be like trying to scale Boros to Cosmic Fear Garou based off the ONE statement from years ago.
I also think we should remove the possibly rating for a likely or a solid rating on Gouketsu's profile because its blatantly stated that genos can read high energy bodies which we also see him do in the manga numerous times and it has never shown to be contradicted. So genos's judgment should be correct. I see it as case like All might stating that over 300 punches in his weakened state are comparable to 5 punches in his prime(Both are statements made by a reliable character to indirectly tell the viewers how strong a character is).
The main issue is that Genos' grasp of what the characters can do is incredibly inconsistent. I don't see a good justification for it being a solid rating.
Post Darkshine Garou should scale above Gouketsu due to these statements made by Gyoro Gyoro. Basically, Gyoro Gyoro says that Garou is curently only a Half-Monster with incredible potential and should be as strong as Orochi if not stronger when he becomes a Complete Monster. This means he should be way stronger than Gouketsu. No, this wouldn't mean he scales to full powered Orochi as not even Psykos was aware of Orochi's true power, as stated here.
This logic doesn't make sense. Psykos calls Garou incomplete and only after he becomes a full monster would he exceed Orochi. Half-Monster Garou has no reason to scale to Goketsu since his thing is entirely potential that he canonically achieves later on.
It would only make sense that Platinum S is in the country level or higher ranges based on the fact that Garou goes from taking 2 shots to defeat him here to damaging Sage Centipede(who has concrete continental scaling) in the exact same chapter. This makes more sense considering Platinum S is the one that pushed Garou to adapt to Sage's lvl in the first place. It wouldn't make sense for Garou to randomly jump from baseline large mountain lvl to continental in half a chapter. Honestly Patinum S downscaling from sage would make more sense than that.
This doesn't work with Garou, because in 13 Miliseconds he went from being even with PS to casually one shotting him. There's no backscaling to Garou because his power increases are gigantic.

The only thing I vaguely see is the Homeless Emperor and BS getting possibly High 6-C, but that's all. Even then them working together might only involve BS just distracting them while Emperor charges a giant death ball that they can't avoid.
 
Yeah, Qaws said it well.

I disagree with all of the proposals in the OP.
 
1. Low 6B Fubuki
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This calc is wrong. I already addresses this and was planning on getting it removed in a later CRT.
The calc for genos' self destruction above is calced at 6B . This scales to Fubuki who after getting stronger was able to contain this power inside of Genos with her telekinesis. She then tried to do the same thing and contain Tatsumaki here but it was easily flipped back on her as well as bang and bomb. Tatsumaki seconds later, tried this on Fuhrer Ugly, but he broke out of it. Fuhrer Ugly should scale to 3x Fubuki's feat due to tatsumaki outputting that much times the power to contain the 3
This doesn't work for several reasons. Not only is there no real proof of Fubuki actually stopping '6-B' energy as Damage mentioned above, but this would be only for Fubuki at her 'peak,' which she definitely wasn't at when trying to restrain Tatsumaki.

As for the 3x multiplier, this does not work due to how we treat multipliers on the wiki.
Base form Orochi should scale above Goukestu who is possibly 866 Gigatons of TNT (Large Island level+)
Orochi doesn't have a Base form in the way that makes him weaker than his later forms. He just has the ability to shapeshift, with none of his shifted forms being shown to be stronger than the other.
Murata stated here that he's unsure who's stronger between Golden Sperm and Orochi, which confirms that Golden Sperm is at least on par with Orochi. At least that was the case before the redraw. But even with the redraw this wouldn’t affect Golden S scaling above the likes of Gouketsu. At the time when the statement was made Orochi was massively stronger than Gouketsu and Gouketsu was already dead, and if Golden s was equal to Orochi, then Golden S should be stronger than Gouketsu. The point is that it doesn't matter which version of Orochi Golden S is on par with because both versions should be massively above Gouketsu. He also stated that Black Sperm wouldn't be afraid of Orochi even after seeing his power further implying golden s could've taken on Orochi back then.
This statement holds no weight. The fact that it was made by Murata (who by this time didn't even know everything about Orochi), but there is no concrete proof that this still holds, as several things has changed in the story since then.
3. Black S and Homeless Emperor scaling to Gouketsu
#2 is more consistent if we look here. Psykos thinks that if Black S and Homeless Emperor work together, they could defeat anyone, which would include guys like Rover, Elder Centipede and Gouketsu. This means that Black S and Homeless should be relative to those guys or at least able to damage them.
Contextualized, it's clear that Psykos was more so referring to them being able to defeat any hero when saying that they could defeat 'anyone' rather than any individual, as that would include Orochi as well, which we know she does not believe.
4. Post Darkshine Garou scaling above Gouketsu
Post Darkshine Garou should scale above Gouketsu due to these statements made by Gyoro Gyoro. Basically, Gyoro Gyoro says that Garou is curently only a Half-Monster with incredible potential and should be as strong as Orochi if not stronger when he becomes a Complete Monster. This means he should be way stronger than Gouketsu. No, this wouldn't mean he scales to full powered Orochi as not even Psykos was aware of Orochi's true power, as stated here.
Post-Darkshine Garou was not a complete monster.

I disagree with the OP entirely.
 
This doesn't seem to abide by our multiplier standards.

Also, not seeing anything there showing Fubuki containing the full potency of Genos' explosion. She stopped
Fair
She does not. The scan states that Genos' cooling ability has been restored, which is what stops the runaway thermal reaction. All Blizzard did was restore that system within Genos.

Also like.... Blizzard does not scale to Tier 6 at all. This is the same Saga where Do-S messed her up in a fight and like an hour beforehand she barely block an attack from Rover.
Fair. I'll just say though that fubuki was stated to have gotton stronger so I don't think comparing her Do-S here is valid
So then the statement is unusable and trying to use it would be like trying to scale Boros to Cosmic Fear Garou based off the ONE statement from years ago.
That's completely different. What you're saying would be as if I was trying to scale Golden S to Redrawn Orochi(current version) , but I'm not. What im saying is he's equal to the pre-redrawn version which isn't wrong. Like if murata said boros was equal to monster garou, but then monster garou got redrawn, it wouldn't be wrong to say he's equal to the pre-redrawn version, it would be wrong though to say he was equal to the redrawn version
This doesn't work with Garou, because in 13 Miliseconds he went from being even with PS to casually one shotting him. There's no backscaling to Garou because his power increases are gigantic.
It would be pretty inconsistent for garou to grow that fast
but that's all.
What about the Melzargard stuff
 
What? Pre-redrawn version doesn't exist.
It no longer exist, yes. But when it did Golden s was equal to it which is above Gouketu. Nothing changed with Gouketsu as he was already dead. And if golden S is was equal to to orochi then its clear that Murata's intent is that hes above Gouketsu.
 
It no longer exist, yes. But when it did Golden s was equal to it which is above Gouketu. Nothing changed with Gouketsu as he was already dead. And if golden S is was equal to to orochi then its clear that Murata's intent is that hes above Gouketsu.
Doesn't matter. We're not going to scale any characters to retconned versions of characters.
 
So as of right now the mid tiers of the verse such as bang, golden sperm, Platinum sperm, flashy flash, post darkshine garou etc. is currently at High 7-A. I believe they are extremely lowballed and they should be rated a lot higher. For example the scaling chain for post darkshine garou goes like this:
Evil Eye - 1.032 Gigatons of TNT (Large Mountain level)<<<Gums<<Vomited Fuhrer Ugly=Darkshine<<(A one-shot difference) Golden sperm<Platinum Sperm<Post Darkshine Garou. There's obviously a huge difference in strength for characters like platinum sperm, garou ,ff and the baseline Large mountain lvl which they currently scale to. So I have some logical scaling I think would make sense to scale them to .

1. Low 6B Fubuki
wW0qfvJ.png
nQscn3z.png


The calc for genos' self destruction above is calced at 6B . This scales to Fubuki who after getting stronger was able to contain this power inside of Genos with her telekinesis. She then tried to do the same thing and contain Tatsumaki here but it was easily flipped back on her as well as bang and bomb. Tatsumaki seconds later, tried this on Fuhrer Ugly, but he broke out of it. Fuhrer Ugly should scale to 3x Fubuki's feat due to tatsumaki outputting that much times the power to contain the 3

2. Possibly High 6C Golden S
Base form
Orochi should scale above Goukestu who is possibly 866 Gigatons of TNT (Large Island level+). Murata stated here that he's unsure who's stronger between Golden Sperm and Orochi, which confirms that Golden Sperm is at least on par with Orochi. At least that was the case before the redraw. But even with the redraw this wouldn’t affect Golden S scaling above the likes of Gouketsu. At the time when the statement was made Orochi was massively stronger than Gouketsu and Gouketsu was already dead, and if Golden s was equal to Orochi, then Golden S should be stronger than Gouketsu. The point is that it doesn't matter which version of Orochi Golden S is on par with because both versions should be massively above Gouketsu. He also stated that Black Sperm wouldn't be afraid of Orochi even after seeing his power further implying golden s could've taken on Orochi back then.
I also think we should remove the possibly rating for a likely or a solid rating on Gouketsu's profile because its blatantly stated that genos can read high energy bodies which we also see him do in the manga numerous times and it has never shown to be contradicted. So genos's judgment should be correct. I see it as case like All might stating that over 300 punches in his weakened state are comparable to 5 punches in his prime(Both are statements made by a reliable character to indirectly tell the viewers how strong a character is).
Also the meteor is probably small country lvl. The calc for the meteor comes out to 866 Gigatons of TNT(which is 86.6% of what is needed to destroy a small country).This calc only took into consideration the destruction of City Z. The fact that the meteor was stated here to affect cities outside of City Z, tells me that the meteor was probably outputting small country levels of power which would be consistent with Fubuki's feat.

3. Black S and Homeless Emperor scaling to Gouketsu
#2 is more consistent if we look here. Psykos thinks that if Black S and Homeless Emperor work together, they could defeat anyone, which would include guys like Rover, Elder Centipede and Gouketsu. This means that Black S and Homeless should be relative to those guys or at least able to damage them.

4. Post Darkshine Garou scaling above Gouketsu
Post Darkshine Garou should scale above Gouketsu due to these statements made by Gyoro Gyoro. Basically, Gyoro Gyoro says that Garou is curently only a Half-Monster with incredible potential and should be as strong as Orochi if not stronger when he becomes a Complete Monster. This means he should be way stronger than Gouketsu. No, this wouldn't mean he scales to full powered Orochi as not even Psykos was aware of Orochi's true power, as stated here.

5.Boros 3 generals scaling relative to each other.
Melzargard should scale to Geryuganshoop who is 31.8 Gigatons of TNT (Island level) because of the fact that he was planning to fight an opponent that defeated Groribas(the strongest of the 3). This implies he's no slouch and is somewhat relative to them. Also Boros who has Power Detection wanted Geryuganshoop and Melzargard to deal with Groribas' killer, which means Melzargard shouldn't be incomparable weaker then Groribas. Otherwise sending Melzargard would be like sending a child to go fight a tank.


Supportive Reasoning

It would only make sense that Platinum S is in the country level or higher ranges based on the fact that Garou goes from taking 2 shots to defeat him here to damaging Sage Centipede(who has concrete continental scaling) in the exact same chapter. This makes more sense considering Platinum S is the one that pushed Garou to adapt to Sage's lvl in the first place. It wouldn't make sense for Garou to randomly jump from baseline large mountain lvl to continental in half a chapter. Honestly Patinum S downscaling from sage would make more sense than that.
Agreee
apart from fubuki low 6B which in my opinion is wrong in my opinion everything is right Platinum at least should be 6B and Golden sperm High 6C
 
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5.Boros 3 generals scaling relative to each other.
I think I agree with this. Considering that even Groribas has less success than Melzargard, he scales to "possibly 6-C", I have no problem with Melzargard being "possibly 6-C"
1. Low 6B Fubuki
I disagree with Genos' calculation of Low 6-B, and since Kachon123 said they would build a CRT to remove it, I disagree.
2. Possibly High 6C Golden S
I am neutral for scaling according to Goukestu.
 
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