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“This appears to be born at least in part due to a misunderstanding of what Dimensional Theory is.

Dimensional Theory deals with actually scientific theories about the dimensionality of our cosmology and the nature of the dimensions within it. This is not Infinite Dimensional, this is simply 11-D in accordance with M-Theory.
It also does not say it is beyond dimensions altogether in the first place.

神秘学の語るところによれば、この世界の外側には次元論の頂点に在る“力”があるという。
あらゆる出来事の発端とされる座標。それが、すべての魔術師の悲願たる『根源の渦』……万物の始まりにして終焉しゅうえん、この世の全てを記録し、この世の全てを創造できるという神の座である。

The term used here is 頂点 which refers to a peak or summit or vertex. Not something beyond, but rather something still part of it, but just at a point where nothing is higher. This still only supports the idea of Eleven Dimensions at maximum.”



What do you have to say regarding this part as mentioned here by a different person?



Also I rather stay out of Nasuverse CRTs in general as I already getting headaches regarding the cosmology aspect due to the sheer amount of info to go through
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HammerStrikes219
HammerStrikes219



I believe this is what Deagonx was referring to in the VN of F/SN.


As a note, Fate Stay Night does come after KnK where the protagonist (Shiki) came from.
HammerStrikes219
HammerStrikes219
Also one more thing to add in here, this is from the Heavens Feel route if memories serve me right as I recognize this conversation as well
HammerStrikes219
HammerStrikes219
“Still doesn't mean much if you want to accept it alongside Shiki's vision of the Root. Was all the mana just tucked away somewhere she couldn't see, for instance? (Sounds pretty stupid).”

Unless you know, she doesn’t actually care about that and in that case, she would prevent any True Magic User from unlocking a path to the Root like Aoko or Zelretch for that matter,.


Again, we don’t really know too much about Shiki that is part of the Root.
HammerStrikes219
HammerStrikes219
All this information is related to making Tier 0 for the Root thread.


I am admittedly skeptical on the interpretations of the statements shown by my fellow Nasuverse supporters.

But I am still neutral for now
HammerStrikes219
HammerStrikes219
I CAN NOT BELIEVE THIS.



A mystery distinct from sorcery. The final destination of magi.
"Magic" is that which makes the impossible into the possible, for a given era. A "result" which can be realized with the application of time and effort is not magic. In the past, when civilization was young, most magi were also magicians, but currently only five remain.
Each particular magic is named by its number: i.e., the First, the Second, and so on. Aozaki Aoko is the user of the Fifth magic.”

Melty Blood Act Cadenza PS2 Manual - Dictionary: Magic [Term], p.049



Collapse[v] Fate/complete material III: World material - Theory of Magic - Magecraft: "Magic" making the impossible possible, p.048​
"Magic" making the impossible possible
True Magic. This is a different mystery than magery. Magi call the events that are unachievable by magery and science in that age True Magic. If that event could be achieved by time and resources, then no matter the difficulty, that event will not be seen as True Magic.
When the civilization of mankind was still young, all magery had been True Magic. But along with the advancement of science, the number of things that "could be done" by people had increased, and in exchange, True Magic diminished. The number of remaining "True Magics" in the modern era are extremely few, only 5. In "Fate/stay night", the achievement of one of these, the "Third True Magic", occupied the portion of the Grail War that could also be said to be its base.
All magi strive to arrive at "True Magic". Even if they can't reach it, the next generation will. Even the next generation can't reach it, then the one after....and like that, thus was weaved the history of trial and error of magery.




Collapse[v] Kara no Kyoukai Special Pamphlet - Encyclopedia: Magicians [Others], p.040 [T]

Magicians [Others]
Nickname of people who can turn mysteries that are not magecraft, things that are impossible, possible.
In the past when civilization was less developed, most magi were magicians.
As civilization developed, the impossible became possible, and many magic devalued into magecraft. Mysteries, in the face of reality, tasted great defeat.
———However, even among those, there still exists miracles unreachable by humans.
Magi who can realize those mysteries are called “magicians,” bearing with them fear and respect, admiration and jealousy.
In the world of Kara no Kyoukai, there are only five magicians.

HammerStrikes219
HammerStrikes219
I gonna stop Paul Frank there as he deliberately left out a crapton of other statements regarding True Magic.


I will not stand for this as this seems to overlook the context of the other chapters as well.
Would you be interested in this?
Though my main issue is that it doesn't show the rest of the universe being affected. All the fire affected was the room. Usually in cartoons we at least see some form of further proof that in that specific instance the entire cosmos is being affected. Think Spongebob unwinding the universe. In this case it is film, but film is a shot of a specific part if the universe... So idrk.
Answering your question: The film reel is the space-time continuum itself, this has been talked about during the franchise a few times

I think the best example that i can give to you of such a showing is when Daffy and Porky are running around and the film reel is showed as containing every single moment of their actions

This would be a Low 2-C feat, technically, but that´s something that should be talked between supporters
I know it's a stupid question.
That character A R>F put B character with tier low1A
Character A Should be 1-A right?
Realabod
Realabod
huh??? like can you rephrase it please.
hello, does this qualify for low 1-A?
need another help with this
Ultima now will the show start for level 2? I'm anxiously waiting, make Dragon Ball have 6 space-times again and all of them have the size low 2-C ^⁠⁠_⁠^
So, Ultima, does Warhammer remain the same on the Cosmology end of things? Just asking to be sure
Ultima_Reality
Ultima_Reality
Still 1-A, probably.
DaReaperMan
DaReaperMan
All right, do you want me to shoot the Cosmology blog onto the hub to be sure? Or do we just sit on it?
Ultima_Reality
Ultima_Reality
I think it's best to do the latter. At least make a "re-evaluation" thread, first, since the hub isn't meant for discussion.
Hi ultima can you kill an abstract existence type 2 being only without npi?
God243
God243
What do you mean with yes and no? I mean only with psysichal strength without hax
Ultima_Reality
Ultima_Reality
As in, Type 2 AE is largely about not being an abstraction yourself, but being identified with it to the extent that you can't be killed as long as it sticks around. A character with Type 2 AE could either be a physical being with a conceptual "core" to their existence (In which case it could feasibly be temporarily killed even without NPI, but not permanently, in lieu of other special abilities) or a non-physical being with a conceptual core (In which case, it obviously can't be interacted with at all, without NPI)
God243
God243
So for get abstract existence type 2 you need to gain immortality type 8 right?
Excuse me, you also do calc requests besides evaluations? Because i would need help to properly revise a verse in a future CRT and would need overtime some help with that
who do you think takes the W
'Eya, can you evaluate these 4 simple calcs when you have the time? I know one already commented there, but they refused to say if the math is correct or not even when I asked and instead started debating scaling issues and outliers. Thanks in advance.
sorry to bothering you but what Is this abstract existence type 2
"Abstract Existence (Type 2): Shipgirls are the physical manifestation of human will, along with their emotions, feeling, thoughts, and imaginations. Stated to be conceptual existence"
Meanwhile:Their Abstract Existence is non-combat applicable, as despite they can returns, they need human to help as they can't do it on their own
I'm not understanding the criteria to gain this abstract existence 2...According to you Is enough to make a thread on to make the removal?
Hello can you check this crt?
Hi please your input here would be very much appreciated
Hi please your input would be very much appreciated here
Helo Glass do you mind checking this CTR me and the boys did that could upgrade DMC3,DMC4 and DMC5 cast to Demon King Level when ypu gotta time?

Hello.

I posted a message to you here:

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Antvasima
Antvasima
Okay. That was not my intention. I just wanted you to notice this rather quickly. 🙏
Theglassman12
Theglassman12
It's fine, just next time message me here instead of on the wiki since all the forum activity's here now.
Antvasima
Antvasima
Well, I usually handle wiki issues via wiki message walls, and forum issues via forum message walls, so I cannot promise that I will remember. My apologies. 🙏
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