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Introductions
Likely my biggest CRT ever, and the first of many tier 1 shenanigans in Nasuverse. Shoutouts to Ultima, John935, TheUnshakableOne, Regidian, Iapetus and many, many others, either on or off site. This would have been impossible to do alone.
This is the day where my reputation on VSBW dies.
What is The Root?
Put simply, the Root, or the Akashic Records/the Swirl of Origin, is the beginning and end of all things. It's where every phenomena, object, person, soul, concept, origin and boundary originated and where all of them end.
It is beyond time and space, beyond all boundaries in which no one should be allowed.
It is even beyond philosophical concepts such as Taiji:
Now, onto solid tiering.
Higher Dimensions
It's no secret that higher dimensions are present in the Nasuverse. Avalon's 6th dimensional interference, BB's 8th dimensional wall, souls being higher dimensional, Imaginary Space Number. However, there have never been any attempts to contextualize how Higher Dimensions work in the Nasuverse.
Turns out, doing so is quite simple, thanks to C.C.C
Rin explains that higher dimensions are like "recorded universes", and by using INS's 4 dimensional nature, BB manages to see every facet of the 3 dimensional world, past, present and future as the same thing, as a book that she can read. That's a higher dimensional perspective, and it extends across every higher dimension, as shown in Fate/Strange Fake, where Zelretch saw all timelines as pages in a book.
Now, let's not discuss what this affects in the big picture, that can be discussed in another CRT that I will make something after this is finished. For now, let's discuss how this affects the Root.
One might think it would be pretty obvious. BB saw up to 8 dimensions, the Root transcends it and is at least 9 dimensional. However, it is far more potent than that, for the Root controls dimensional theory itself.
Not only that, it is a metaphysical force that exists beyond this world, outside of and at the apex of dimensional theory.
So not only does the Root control the dimensional theory and what it is, it exists completely outside of it, independent of its definitions. Just as the Luminous Being, this would place it at 1-A, as it's level of existence is independent of the "layers" it exists outside of, being consistent regardless of how they are altered, be it to higher or lower levels.
However, that is not all.
It Cannot Be The " "
There is one major "mechanic" to the Root, or " " that has not been explored yet. The fact that whatever descriptions attached to it are not " ". All was created from it, including logic, and all logic that is applied to "it" cannot be "it", as it was created from "it".
Even " " does not represent " ", for it is a notion crafted by our logic.
That which has names should not be in the Root, as it is a place without boundaries, and a power of true "emptiness".
To put it in simpler terms, the Root exists beyond any ontological descriptions / categories and extensions, making it 1-A.
Conclusion
The Root/Swirl of Origin/Akasha/Heaven/Kara/Source of many headaches is a 1-A power beyond everything in the Nasuverse. However, those whose hax scales to it do exist.
But as you may imagine, just making the Root this level is already a controversial enough topic. Part 2 of this thread will cover those who scale to it as well as other higher dimensional shenanigans thanks to the contextualization given in this thread.
For now, only those who would scale are those who are already accepted to have "Root tier" hax, which is pretty much only Void Shiki and Unified Language.
This would also lead to the creation of a Root page, seen here. Now, while the Root isn't exactly a character, it does seem to have a will, as seen by Void Shiki, who has stated she is literally the Root before. Besides, things like this are allowed to exist if characters make use of it and it is important for higher tiers.
Likely my biggest CRT ever, and the first of many tier 1 shenanigans in Nasuverse. Shoutouts to Ultima, John935, TheUnshakableOne, Regidian, Iapetus and many, many others, either on or off site. This would have been impossible to do alone.
This is the day where my reputation on VSBW dies.
What is The Root?
Put simply, the Root, or the Akashic Records/the Swirl of Origin, is the beginning and end of all things. It's where every phenomena, object, person, soul, concept, origin and boundary originated and where all of them end.
"Funny you should say that, since in a way, that’s what mages are aiming for. Some call it the ‘spiral of origin.’ Others like the ring of ‘The Akashic Records’ better. That grand mass of nothingness. Whatever you want to call it, that’s what they’re after. It’s where everything came from. And if you know where everything came from, you know everything that comes after. It’s not even enough to call it ultimate knowledge. It’s something higher than that. All the different disciplines and paradigms of learning the Art flow from this single, indivisible source. Whether it’s astrology, alchemy, the Kabbalah, Shinsendō, or runes, all their practitioners harbor the same goal. The first fortunate souls that felt its presence dreamed of its potential. It isn’t to sponsor the quest for the meaning of man’s existence, because they already know it. It is to pierce the great lie of this world and find pure truth, whatever form it takes. Mages of the ideal sort cherish only themselves to live a life that will never be rewarded.”- https://emptyboundaries.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/empty-boundaries-volume-3.pdf
“The spiral of origin is
the primordial beginning of all things in this pattern of reality. All things
pass through the great wheel, their natures and their histories—past, pres-
ent, and future—are connected to it. It is thus a vast and empty place. It
reflects what I am, in a way. I am connected to it, and I am a part of it as
well. I am it. Which is why the greatest feats that mages can only dream of
are allowed me. - Kara no kyoukai - Vol 3 -page 227
It is beyond time and space, beyond all boundaries in which no one should be allowed.
"Beyond and below lay only darkness. This void, lifeless place could only mean one thing: I was dead.
Without anything to even clothe me, I, Shiki Ryōgi, floated, and then
sank slowly into the fathomless, lightless sea. There was no end in sight.
There was nothing in sight, neither light, and yes, perhaps even darkness.
This place was only a hollow, where all meaning ceased to be. A stygian
abyss that could not be put into words, and without words it shall remain:
a cypher called, simply, “ ”.
I fell deeper into the “ ”, and my naked body slowly acquired the pallor
of the grave, and it made me want to look away. In my mind, I knew that
everything in this place comes to be the same way.
“Is this death?” I whispered, though it came out so faint, I doubted if it
was even real.
Though time too had no meaning inside “ ”, I observed it. Like a stream
tracing out into the infinite, like the process of decay, I mark it. It was an
eternity. I plunged ever deeper, and cast my eyes farther, and in that eter-
nity, this place was still empty, devoid of anything except me. And yet, it
was all so calm and serene. It feels as if, in this place without meaning, the
fact that I existed at all fits me. Here lay entropy, the end of all things, a
place the living may never observe, but only the dead may enter.
I died. And yet I am still alive. I felt my mind about to lose its grip.
Two years. An instant, stretched out to an eternity. Both are accurate
measures of my time spent in this “ ”. Here, I touched death. Here, I fought
for my life. Here, I awakened." -Kara no kyoukai Vol 2- page 6
It is even beyond philosophical concepts such as Taiji:
"太極【たいきょく】【その他】
古代中国で生まれた思想、陰陽《おんみょう》説を表す図。
万物の状態を概念的に捉《とら》えたもので、能動的・活動的であるものを陽(白)、その逆になるものを陰(黒)と分けている。
昼と夜、明と暗、雄と雌と相反するものを象徴しながら、影響しあい流れあう世界の縮図とも言える。
また、陽の中には一点の陰、陰の中には一点の陽があるが、これは陰陽の区別は絶対的なものでなく、明の中にも暗がある、という事を示している。
太極は始まりの一であるが、この二つに分かれた陰陽を両儀という。
余談ではあるが、本編における魔術師たちは中国の思想とは相容《あいい 》れない西洋魔術の術師である."
"Taiji [Others]
A philosophy originated in ancient China, a graphical representation of the Yin-Yang theory.
It attempts to capture the essence of everything on a conceptual level: those that are active are defined as Yang (white), and the opposite are defined as Yin (black).
The Taiji symbolizes opposing concepts such as day and night, light and darkness, male and female. At the same time, you may also call it a condensed version of the ever-changing, dynamic World.
Furthermore, there is a dot of Yin in Yang, and conversely a dot of Yang in Yin. This indicates that the distinction between Yin and Yang is not absolute. There is darkness even in light.
Taiji is the "one" at the beginning, the Yin and Yang that divide the "one" are called Liangyi (Ryougi). " - Kara no Kyoukai Special Pamphlet - Encyclopedia: Taiji [Others], p.035
Now, onto solid tiering.
Higher Dimensions
It's no secret that higher dimensions are present in the Nasuverse. Avalon's 6th dimensional interference, BB's 8th dimensional wall, souls being higher dimensional, Imaginary Space Number. However, there have never been any attempts to contextualize how Higher Dimensions work in the Nasuverse.
Turns out, doing so is quite simple, thanks to C.C.C
Rin explains that higher dimensions are like "recorded universes", and by using INS's 4 dimensional nature, BB manages to see every facet of the 3 dimensional world, past, present and future as the same thing, as a book that she can read. That's a higher dimensional perspective, and it extends across every higher dimension, as shown in Fate/Strange Fake, where Zelretch saw all timelines as pages in a book.
Now, let's not discuss what this affects in the big picture, that can be discussed in another CRT that I will make something after this is finished. For now, let's discuss how this affects the Root.
One might think it would be pretty obvious. BB saw up to 8 dimensions, the Root transcends it and is at least 9 dimensional. However, it is far more potent than that, for the Root controls dimensional theory itself.
Not only that, it is a metaphysical force that exists beyond this world, outside of and at the apex of dimensional theory.
"According to mystery, there is "power" at the top of all dimensional theories outside of this world.
Coordinates that are the origin of every event. It is, "the vortex of origin" long-cherished wish serving all of the magician...... in the beginning of all things, and The end. The throne of God that can record everything in this world and create everything in this world."
神秘学の語るところによれば、この世界の外側には次元論の頂点に在る“力”があるという。
あらゆる出来事の発端とされる座標。それが、すべての魔術師の悲願たる『根源の渦』……万物の始まりにして終焉しゅうえん、この世の全てを記録し、この世の全てを創造できるという神の座である。
https://sai-zen-sen.jp/works/fictions/fate-zero/02/01.html"
So not only does the Root control the dimensional theory and what it is, it exists completely outside of it, independent of its definitions. Just as the Luminous Being, this would place it at 1-A, as it's level of existence is independent of the "layers" it exists outside of, being consistent regardless of how they are altered, be it to higher or lower levels.
However, that is not all.
It Cannot Be The " "
There is one major "mechanic" to the Root, or " " that has not been explored yet. The fact that whatever descriptions attached to it are not " ". All was created from it, including logic, and all logic that is applied to "it" cannot be "it", as it was created from "it".
"「 」 [Others]
If you really wished to pronounce this term, call it "Kara".
Its meaning varied depending on each individual's understanding. To put it in simple terms, it was the Spiral of Origin.
However, since the Spiral of Origin was called the Spiral of Origin, it was no longer ' '.
To properly express this term was a source of headache during the production of the drama CDs."-https://www.tmdict.com/en/ka.-
Even " " does not represent " ", for it is a notion crafted by our logic.
That which has names should not be in the Root, as it is a place without boundaries, and a power of true "emptiness".
To put it in simpler terms, the Root exists beyond any ontological descriptions / categories and extensions, making it 1-A.
Conclusion
The Root/Swirl of Origin/Akasha/Heaven/Kara/Source of many headaches is a 1-A power beyond everything in the Nasuverse. However, those whose hax scales to it do exist.
But as you may imagine, just making the Root this level is already a controversial enough topic. Part 2 of this thread will cover those who scale to it as well as other higher dimensional shenanigans thanks to the contextualization given in this thread.
For now, only those who would scale are those who are already accepted to have "Root tier" hax, which is pretty much only Void Shiki and Unified Language.
This would also lead to the creation of a Root page, seen here. Now, while the Root isn't exactly a character, it does seem to have a will, as seen by Void Shiki, who has stated she is literally the Root before. Besides, things like this are allowed to exist if characters make use of it and it is important for higher tiers.