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Dragon Ball GT: Syn/Omega Shenron Upgrade

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Isn't this another matter of Japanese plurals vs singular
 
Completely forgot about that. But it would change him from "Galaxy level" to "At least Galaxy level" or "Galaxy level+". It also depends if it was Syn or Omega being referred to. Regardless, I think it'd be a small upgrade.
 
Yes, maybe we should upgrade the highest GT characters accordingly. I will ask DarkLK, and also highlight this.
 
Possibly. We need more input. Preferably by people knowledgeable in Japanese.
 
also if this is true, then immediately destroying it with ki wud mean the ki wud have to be hundreds of billions to trillion times light speed... so if this is accepted, then the high end speed of my dbgt blog gets further support (since using that we can add reasonable scalar multipliers to get high billions to low trillions of times light speed for high end dbgt characters)
 
Here is what DarkLK replied:

"All the galaxies" would be ÒüÖÒü╣ÒüªÒü«Úèǵ▓│ (subete no ginga).

Úèǵ▓│Õà¿Úâ¿ (ginga zenbu) from this text means "the whole galaxy or all the galaxy".
 
So, that apparently means better motivation for the current 3-C rating.
 
Well, according to DarkLK, the text only mentioned one galaxy being destroyed, so I agree, probably "Galaxy level" for Omega Shenron, and "At least Galaxy level. Possibly Multi-Galaxy level" for SS4 Gogeta.
 
According to DarkLK's translation there's no change in ratings though.

Edit: Actually, wasn't this feat performed by Syn who is currently rated as 4-A at base?
 
Yes, but we could mention the above information in the profile, to give the rankings better support.
 
Hmm. In that case, Omega Shenron may have to get an "At least 3-C" rating as well. How did SS4 Goku and Vegeta compare to Syn?
 
Antvasima said:
Úèǵ▓│Õà¿Úâ¿
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Úèǵ▓│Õà¿Úâ¿ actually means "All Galaxies.", according to what my wife said - she studies Japanese. I don't know if she paid too close attention though, she's doesn't care for my online habits.
 
Úèǵ▓│Õà¿Úâ¿ actually means "All Galaxies.", according to what my wife said - she studies Japanese. I don't know if she paid too close attention though, she's doesn't care for my online habits.

It might not be best to use "all galaxies" unless it's in the context of "all the galaxies around him". All galaxies would be Universal destruction, which he can only achieve over a long period of time.
 
@The Everlasting Okay, so "Likely 3-C" for SS4 Goku and Vegeta then?

@Aparajita I would appreciate if you could ask her to check it up, given that DarkLK seems to disagree.
 
Antvasima said:
@The Everlasting Okay, so "Likely 3-C" for SS4 Goku and Vegeta then?

@Aparajita I would appreciate if you could ask her to check it up, given that DarkLK seems to disagree.
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Wait? Are we still using the 4 Galaxy thing for GT? Cause if SSJ4 Gogeta could destroy the Entire GTverse, it would only be 4 Galaxies, but then again, that's not counting the distance between each Galaxy, destroying the GTverse could still amount to a 3-B feat of sorts
 
Speed should remain the same for the characters.

We don't give Bills or Goku scaling from the shockwaves (which are in the quintillions of FTL range) of their punches, there is even less reason to do so here when the feat in question isn't even shown to us.
 
AguilaR101 said:
Speed should remain the same for the characters.
We don't give Bills or Goku scaling from the shockwaves (which are in the quintillions of FTL range) of their punches, there is even less reason to do so here when the feat in question isn't even shown to us.
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Again with GT and Super comprasion..
 
This is just more basis for the galaxy level rating. I wouldn't say they should be listed as anything higher than that.
 
Promestein said:
This is just more basis for the galaxy level rating. I wouldn't say they should be listed as anything higher than that.
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So more of further justification for the current 3-C rating, yeah...
 
So in short, the goal of this upgrade is to get Peak Shadow Dragon Arc SSJ4 Goku and SSJ4 Vegeta as well as Syn Shenron to Likely 3-C, while Omega and Gogeta are getting At Least 3-C with SSJ4 Gogeta possibly getting 3-B?
 
DBZMLP12345 said:
So in short, the goal of this upgrade is to get Peak Shadow Dragon Arc SSJ4 Goku and SSJ4 Vegeta as well as Syn Shenron to Likely 3-C, while Omega and Gogeta are getting At Least 3-C with SSJ4 Gogeta possibly getting 3-B?
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Basically. This is how I see this working.

Syn Shenron | Omega Shenron:

AP/Dura/Striking Strength = Galaxy level (Destroyed at least a galaxy after arriving on a planet) | At least Galaxy level, possibly higher

SSJ4 Goku and Vegeta:

AP/Dura/Striking Strength = Galaxy level (superior to Syn Shenron)

SSJ4 Gogeta:

AP/Dura/Striking Strength = Likely Multi-Galaxy level (dozens of times stronger than SSJ4 Goku & Vegeta)

Mostly an upgrade from Multi-SS for Goku, Vegeta and Syn.
 
I am okay with most of that except SSJ4 Gogeta, as the gap for galaxy to multi galaxy is 644X. Dozens stronger isn't nearly enough. The only one I see getting possibly 3-B is EoGT Goku, who's supposed to be the strongest character in the show. You're right about 100 year Goku, as he's unknown for a reason.
 
I think Cal makes sense on the SSJ4 Gogeta rank. Gogeta would likely have to be hundreds of times stronger for him to get a 3-B. That i can see him getting it rather than being dozens of times stronger.

Other than that, i can the ones that DBZMLP explained passing if accepted here.
 
Well, it would really depend where we place Omega, as Syn would already be Galaxy level. This would place those 3 higher up into galaxy level. It really depends on where Omega gets placed. If he's higher enough, it can place Gogeta at Multi-Galaxy.

Although, there may be a galaxy level feat from the anime performed by Kid Buu. If you want, I can edit it in the OP
 
Well @Howard, if we go by anime standards, SSJ3 Goku << Super Buu <<< Gotenks Buu << Gohan Buu <<< Base Vegito which would imply that fusion is very much stronger than the SSJ3 multiplier. (Of course Portuga is stated to be more effective, however the gap is unlikely to be that big) Add SSJ4 into the mix and who knows, it is very possible that Gogeta is 3-B.
 
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