Ichigo vs Saber

DragonEmperor23

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Hollow Mask and Bankai Post Bankai Training Ichigo vs Fate/Zero Saber

The two are fighting in an open field where they can see each other at the start of the match. They start at extended Melee range. Something like this.

Speed's equal cause idk what Ichigo scales to so im playing it safe

Saber resists so no passive stomp via crush yay

 

Schnee_One

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How good is Sabers resistance?

 

AnonymousBlank

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Is this pre or post Visored training?

 

DragonEmperor23

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Pre, this is from when Ichigo fights Byakuya with Bankai for the first time.

 

DragonEmperor23

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Schnee One said:

How good is Sabers resistance?

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Planetary I think.

 

Milly_Rocking_Bandit

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How strong is the resistance?

 

DragonEmperor23

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Planetary I think.

^

 

AnonymousBlank

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Chaos tides

Okay so this means its just Zangetsu taking over for a joyride again and he immediately overpowered and caught Byakuya's attacks unharmed despite Senkei amping him and debuffing Ichigo. He also leads with his GT so he one shots Saber and if not, just smacks her in CQC via his ability to stomp people of her level.

 

DragonEmperor23

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All Servants resist Chaos Tides.

Chaos Tides come from Tiamat and she haxes the planet.

 

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If that's from Angra Mainyu she doesn't scale to it as she got Corrupted by it in the HF route.

 

Dangai_Ichigo

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Isn't Saber a Servant ? Which thefore makes her a spiritual being like Ichigo who has physical form so shes technically using a Gigai ?

 

AnonymousBlank

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Yes? Not sure why thats relevant tbh

 

Dangai_Ichigo

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That means she can already see Ichigo since she's a spiritual being as well. I mean, Lancer saw Archer when he was in Spiritual form for example

 

DragonEmperor23

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yeah

 

DragonEmperor23

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Hollow Mask Ichigo > Bankai Ichigo >= Byakuya >= Toshiro = 657 Megatons

Saber > Shirou > Angra Mainyu = 610 Megatons

 

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Schnee One said:

If that's from Angra Mainyu she doesn't scale to it as she got Corrupted by it in the HF route.

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This is extremely important because unless it comes from something else of decent potency Saver gets Reiatsu crushed

 

DragonEmperor23

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both me and Blank ninja'd you to answering the question before you elaborated

 

AnonymousBlank

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Mask Bankai >> Bankai >= Bankai Byakuya > Bankai training Shikai >= Shikai Byakuya > base Byakuya >= post Kenny Shikai >= patchless SS Kenny = Bankai Toshiro = 657 megatons

 

DragonEmperor23

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Wait what do you mean by post Kenny shikai?

 

Ciruno_Fortes

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Cause Artoria is vulnerable to it in one showing, and the speculation that every other Servant is resistant to it is a bit off. Didn't every Servant get around it by doing their best not to fall for it? Since the haxx only works when the person is covered in mud?

And the only one that got haxxed by that was Ushi, who yes resisted it but still was mostly evil.

Imo.

Also I think Reiatsu crush might be the leading win

 

AnonymousBlank

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Post Kenny Shikai is the Ichigo who reaches Kenny's level and flies to fight Byakuya on the bridge.

 

Schnee_One

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Oh wow I'm behind nvm, yeah Saber is safe.

 

Dangai_Ichigo

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>Saber gets Reiatsu Crushed

When Saber's a spiritual being just like Ichigo...

 

AnonymousBlank

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Spirits are also spiritual beings though and they have no issue reiatsu crushing each other.

 

Schnee_One

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Being a spiritual being doesn't mean shit if you don't have the soul resistance required

But she does, so it's irrelevant.

 

Paul_Frank

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Saber skill stomps in cqc

Saber's rank of instinct would help her avoid Ichigo a lot of the time and since this isn't a holy grail war Saber is at no disadvantage by using Excalibur so she wouldn't be as hesitant as she is in a grail war

Not voting just throwing some things out

 

Ciruno_Fortes

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Hold on.

Stop. The entire planet? She took so long haxxing Babylonia which is the reason why everyone lasted so long. Or is it more the quantity? Also, didn't it take soooo much time for even Ushi to be corrupted? I recall it being a day or two even. And even then she was able to break free, with its only special feat being able to turn any human it caught into those corrupted things.

Is that really impressive? Trying to check here.

 

Paul_Frank

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Yes the entire planet, there were several reasons for Babylonia not ending instantly and Chaldea losing

Ushi wasn't corrupted by Tiamat either it was by Kingu

 

Ciruno_Fortes

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Wasn't he purposely created before he was basically ditched cause Tiamat didn't need him anymore?

I see I see. Wasn't sure if he used Tiamat's mud or not so checking

 

The_Prince_of_Counters

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Not sure how I feel about applying hax / resistances from FGO to Fate Stay and such. Especially whenever there's some contradictions such as Karna still getting haxxed by Vlad despite having a bunch load of Resistance from characters like BB. I believe this was actually addressed on a Karna vs Accel thread.


Edit: Yup, here we go. https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1496813?useskin=oasis

 

Ciruno_Fortes

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I agree with Prince here.

 

DragonEmperor23

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Ichigo: 1 (Anon)

Saber: 0

 

Spinoirr

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Ginger with a soul fra

 

DragonEmperor23

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Ichigo: 2 (Anon, Spino)

Saber: 0

 

SpookyShadow

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Icchy FRA

 

KazuiK

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What are the reasons for voting in Ichigo?

 

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DragonEmperor23 said:

Hollow Mask Ichigo > Bankai Ichigo >= Byakuya >= Toshiro = 657 Megatons

Saber > Shirou > Angra Mainyu = 610 Megatons

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Isn't that kind of a massive understatement for the fate scaling chain?

 

Dangai_Ichigo

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Same for me, why so many votes for and none for Saber ?

 

DragonEmperor23

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Isn't that kind of a massive understatement for the fate scaling chain?

My word isn't law, you can elaborate on the Fate chain like how Anon did for the Bleach chain.

 

DragonEmperor23

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AnonymousBlank said:

Okay so this means its just Zangetsu taking over for a joyride again and he immediately overpowered and caught Byakuya's attacks unharmed despite Senkei amping him and debuffing Ichigo. He also leads with his GT so he one shots Saber and if not, just smacks her in CQC via his ability to stomp people of her level.

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This is the reasoning for Ichigo winning.