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Avengers: Endgame - Another Discussion Thread! SPOILERS!!!

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I also liked the fact about how both Cap and Tony influenced each other.

At the start of MCU, Tony was this selfish guy who only did good things because he mostly saw his benifit and Cap was this selfless guy who sacrificed everything he ever wanted for the people.

At the end however, it was Tony who learned from Cap and selflessly sacrificed everything he had for the people. Similarly, Cap learned from Tony to be a little selfish and left his timeline to get everything he had ever wanted.

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@AKM sama

>You missed this part where you can see that she blocked his punch and hits him twice instead. You need to slow it down for proper viewing, and you can also hear the sound of blcoking which is different from the sound of swinging a punch that missed.

That's not a block, that her diverting Thanos's punch by pushing at his arm - blockinbg it would be to take it out right. Redirecting a punch is far easier than taking it outright - it doesn't prove that she is massively superior to him as you claim.

>Then she goes for the IG where Thanos grabs her arm and swings her away. You don't need higher AP to do that, just lifting strength enough to lift that character.

Thanos was able to force her to spin around with him agaisnt her wishes and made her hit the ground and bounce away like a stone on a lake. He then is able to put on the Gauntlet, deal with the affects of absorbing all of that power, and go in for the snap before she makes it back to him.

If she was completely uneffected from his physical strength becasuse she is so much stronger than he is, then why didn't she instantly blast him away? The only logical conclusion is that she was stunned momentarily because his strength can effect her.

>All in all, she landed a few good blows on Thanos, even excluding the one kick from behind. She blocked one of Thanos' punch pretty easily. Dodging =/= being weaker. All of it proves that she had an upper hand. Thanos wasn't even able to phase her while her hits were able to stagger him showing much greater effect.

Captain Marvel did got few punches and energy blasts at point-blank range in. That is the thing though.

Depsite her hitting him numerous times, Thanos was able to instantly shake it off and seemed to treat them more like a nuisance, instead of a threat. If Captain Marvel is so much stronger than him, then why wasn't he on the ground in agony from taking all of her attacks directly to the face, like he did with Wanda?

Thanos made two punches. She dodged the first and then she redirected the second while moving out of the way. Redirecting isn't blocking and redirecting a punch doesn't show physical superiority in the slightest. Thanos being able to take all of her attacks and brush them off while continuing to fight shows that her attacks aren't that strong, that she isn't leagues above him as you suggest.

All that this proves is that she utlized her strengths in battle (her speed and Thanos being unaware of her presence at the time), it doesn't showcase her having the strength advantage.


The rest of your post talks about the moment where she grabs the gauntlet and pushes Thanos to the ground, which isn't the part of the fight that I said she was implied to be relatively even with Thanos.

Thanos and Marvel had like two six-second interactions - their fight in where they exchanged blows, and the moment where Captain Marvel grabs the gauntlet.


In their first interaction - the fight. They are portray like this: Captain Marvel is faster - dodging Thanos's punches and retailing appropriately with her own attacks - while Thanos is physically stronger - taking all of her attacks and brushing them aside while trying to land his own, and being able to physically stop her punch and throw her into the dirt.

In their second interaction - Captain Marvel is portayed as being far above Thanos. She grabs onto the gauntlet and is physically strong enough to pry his fingers open, take his headbutt without flinching, make Thanos scream in pain and push him to the ground with one hand, forcing him to use the Power Stone to one-shot her.

These are wildly different showcases of strength, and Captain Marvel's strength is quite inconsistent because of it.
 
In their second interaction Captain Marvel was using both hands while Thanos was only trying to snap his fingers. Not to mention Thanos already felt extremely painful due to the gauntlet, he literally screams in pain.

Moreover, I'm pretty certain a punch is stronger than a headbutt.
 
I dd say pretty much didn't I? My point was that he uses one arm a bunch of times when he has a second that would have broken the stalemate immediately.
 
What?

It went from the 5th Highest Grossing to the 2nd in a day?

Jacksfilms's wish is actually possible.
 
I just realized half of the 10 highest grossing films are MCU films

Perfectly balanced as all things should be
 
You have no idea how happy I am lol
 
I mean, Endgame being 1# highest grossing film essentially promotes Hollywood to adapt pre-existing stuff into movies rather than making original IPs. It's the same as promoting T-Series, really.
 
And yet people were still risking to give money to Mortal Engines, Pacific Rim and other such "Director's Vision" type projects since there is a chance it may blow up.

Also, it isn't like DCEU and Dark Universe would exist without MCU. Shitty sequels / remakes/ adaptations were the studio trying to emulate Marvel absolutely crushing at the Box Office. Hell, even Disney is trying that on Star Wars, and releasing rushed out schlock like Solo and Last Jedi, which could have been wayyy better with a rewrite or two but the studio wanted to pump it out to fit the l2 movies an year" thing Marvel started.
 
What's even worse is that T-Series vs Pewdiepie and Avatar vs Endgame are not even comparable cases. The conflict on Youtube is about a channel that represents how Youtube has become a full blown corporation and doesn't care about facilitating the every-day man that is willing to share good content, like Pewdiepie, in favor of corporate crap that channels like T-Serie do. Both Endgame and Avatar are high-budget productions, funded by some of the biggest companies in the world.
 
Zark2099 said:
And yet people were still risking to give money to Mortal Engines, Pacific Rim and other such "Director's Vision" type projects since there is a chance it may blow up.

Also, it isn't like DCEU and Dark Universe would exist without MCU. Shitty sequels / remakes/ adaptations were the studio trying to emulate Marvel absolutely crushing at the Box Office. Hell, even Disney is trying that on Star Wars, and releasing rushed out schlock.
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People try to do shitty copies of what's popular, having Avatar or Endgame at the top won't change that.
 
Remember when Star Wars was the highest grossing film, and then every studio suddenly became Sci-Fi fans. And when Jurassic Park was the highest grossing one, people made like, 50 disaster movies that relied solely on CGI with cookie cutter characters.

Avatar did that too, suddenly every movie had to be 3D to be seen, but IMO that's a way better promotion than everyone trying to make incomplete movies, forcing audience to sit and wait for the next part.
 
That's already happened much before the MCU, look at the Resident Evil movie series. Shitty movies have always and will always exist, it doesn't matter what is inspiring them or not.
 
Someones a bit butthurt it seems. I dont know th reason honestly. Marvel has done something that i never in my life would have believe to be possible. Good on them.

T series vs pewdiepie comparison is dumb, and irrelavent.
 
I wouldn't call it butthurt, I see where he's coming from, but the problem is that there is a false correlation between the existence of bad movies and the success of the MCU. People try to copy what's successful, and in doing so they tend to just look into the easy profit and not understanding what's happening that makes the original good. Star Wars inspired terrible Sci-Fi movies, Jurassic Park inspired terrible survival / disaster movies, Avatar inspired terrible CGI / Special effect filled movies, and MCU will inspire shitty cinematic universes. It doesn't change depending on who's #1 or not.
 
Also Snyder fanboys think Geoff Johns sold Snyder's plot to Russo Brothers. Disney sabotaged WB according to them
 
Ovrhide said:
Someones a bit butthurt it seems. I dont know th reason honestly. Marvel has done something that i never in my life would have believe to be possible. Good on them.

T series vs pewdiepie comparison is dumb, and irrelavent.
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Nice. I've watched them since the first Iron Man back in 2008 FYI, so I'm not getting butthurt, just don't get the "my favourite movie should be highest grossing film" train everyone rides whenever a awesome film is released. They literally made films into comic books, so spectacle-wise its awesome. Not really much in regards to film-making.

Also yeah, ig Dziga is right. Idk, I always feel iffy whenever something starts breaking records, because execs always take the worst elements from the film's success, and then everyone blames said films for "ruining cinema" later on.
 
PewDiePie vs T-Series was dumb. T-Series never cared about Pew. Pew on the other hand made fun of the Pulwama attack that killed 50+ plus Indian soldiers to gain Pakistani followers
 
James Cameron said superhero movies are nothing but men with no parents and big dicks destroying cities thinking that they are actually saving them
 
Weird, considering he wanted to make Spider-Man and Plastic Man back in the day. Idk, his opinions ig, I don't really expect 60 year olds to get invested in Rocket Raccoon
 
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