By default it would also be low2C.....
thanks, so just for more clarification if possible, if there is an infinite amount of energy, you can take 5 joules from it? or if Beerus attacked a 3A character and that character nulled the attack, will the character be upgraded directly to low 2C because the energy that Beerus released cant be less than low 2C? or it can be less for example 5 joules or whatever any finite number.
I don't care about the given topic, but to address this, this is not the same thing as what Damage said.
So Reio has tier 2 power? Because that means that every piece that gets taken off of him, wouldn’t diminish said tier 2 power which matches up with Gerard, Gremmy, Pernida, Mimi, none of the Fullbringers, Matsumoto etc not being tier 2. So what else is left besides the corpse that sustains the tier 2 cosmology? Nothing, that’s what. So the corpse has the tier 2 power by process of elimination and TS (who scales to nothing else) kills, Yhwach absorbs and even says he gains its power, people say Yhwach had the power of the Soul King, he was gonna undo the creation feat etc etc etc.
By that Logic Anti-Monitor should be downgraded to Low 2-C
If he should then so be it. A whataboutism isn't an argument.
Yes it is. You were the one who argued that any energy from the Soul King had to scale to his tier 2 and the staff straight up agreed with it. Yet now here we have staff (one of whom definitely agreed with your stance before) saying that it’s not the case.
Because it's not the same thing? Destroying part of an infinite structure is not the same thing as taking on power divided from someone who is in the tier. In other words, dividing up energy from the tier can still be said tier, but destroying part of the structure doesn't get you to that tier.
Well linear division of infinite is still infinite..but you can subtract finite out of infinite.
Actually, if it proves to have its own temporal dimension separate from the universe then the size of the 3-dimensional aspect wouldn't stop it from being Low 2-C, since it's still destroying an uncountably infinite amount of whatever matter exists in said space-time. Of course, Vegeta has a mountain of anti-feats but the feat itself should be Low 2-C.
Totally agree.
Except it's not the exact same shit, because Damage for one is speaking about dividing space up. This is about dividing levels of energy.
I mean, we don't scale Bulma to Beerus for surviving a slap. Beerus's full power is Low 2-C but he can obviously hold back as much as he wants in his attacks.
Isn't that the point of this entire thread??
(Don't take this as disrespectful, if it comes off as that, I apologize) we genuinely don't care who gets downgraded. If they fail to fit the standards, they drop.
Perhaps it would be better to get a general thread to get some kind of official consensus on this then? Because admittedly, this is confusing to differentiate, and if we are supposed to be doing this, some kind of official note would be good to have.
Let's respect the OP's request. Everybody just wait
That's objectively incorrect. Our tiering system makes it clear that unless the structure is universe sized (that's literally the baseline condition), destroying a spacetime continuum like that is unquantifiable. There are a plethora of comic feats that are treated the same way. Vegeta's feat is not discarded because of anti-feats. His feat simply isn't Low 2-C.
Only because of consistency reasons we arbitrarily take 93 Billion Yrs of width as benchmark....mathematically as Planck said that would still be low2C....
but u need to divide it so you can destroy that part right? like here is an infinite space, I want to destroy 10 meters only, I would need to divide it in my mind or whatever, or maybe Im mistaken, correct me.
So fiction characters can divide the infinite energy and use a finite amount of it?
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fine, apologize then
but did anyone else mention
No issues
Is there any evidence that the SS complied with them?
There should be no organ difference only between Prime Reio and his corpse, we cannot make any comments about the decrease or increase in spirit power after or before the organs are removed because we do not know. What I mean is that the creator of these is Prime reio, and I do not equate it with his weakened (only corpse) state, frankly, this wiki unknown only gave him the Tier of his dead body, if I do not remember wrong because of some rules. (stabilization vs. get details from Kukui) So I don't scale the TS. Yes, there are even some very strange panels about Yhwach's power. (reio was in prime, and not the official translation, I just throw this for a example) but I am not denying that Yhwach's his final version (at least its strongest version) is not low 2-c or higher, and I am scaling True Bankai Ichigo.
You are missing the issue. In the downgrade thread, it was argued that the Soul King energy that was destroyed by the Shinigami was just a finite amount of SK’s energy. You were the one who said that it can’t be the case and said that any division of infinity is still infinity even though nothing said the eyeballs were a division of his energy, something that was directly argued against and you still insisted that any portion of infinite energy is infinite. The staff agreed to this back then so why the double standards? You can’t have your cake and eat it.
So is no one going to at least respect this one request
Technically you don't need singular evidences for each and every realm to be low2C in a macroverse....it automaticlly is.....we use same logic for U1 to U12 to be low2C in DBS.
Kind of the problem of this being an open CRT as opposed to a staff-only one.
Yes but why tho? As the staff have established within this past hour, you can subtract finite levels of powers from infinite. If all the other pieces don’t have the infinite power, then that leaves one piece (the corpse) that is specifically used for its raw power to sustain the verse. Everything else has quantifiable finite levels of power besides this one which is conveniently used because it is strong. We know that used to be Reio so taking away all of the finite pieces still leaves infinity which Ichigo harmed and Yhwach absorbed.
And I think you are the one missing the issue because I fail to see how this is double standard to begin with. Dividing spatial boundaries into different sections and dividing levels of energy are not the same thing, or should not be the same thing as each other. One is speaking about power at an infinite level, the other is speaking about physical space being separated into different parts, a part of which certainly isn't infinite (unless a planet, a star or any given x object in an infinite universe is still considered physically infinite to you). A double standard implies these 2 are treated the same way, which I fail to see how that is the case in the first place.
This I agree with , which one of two interpretation ls used should be done rationally by logical deduction.
Yes, it's out.
