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Yami Vs. Gojo​

The original thread never concluded so here’s the finale.
  • Fight Location: SBA
  • Battle Music
  • Post-Advent of Qliphoth Arc Yami
  • Shinjuku Showdown Arc Gojo
  • Starting Distance: 50 meters
  • Speed Equal
  • Both in character
  • Win by any means
Yami: @Joshyyy_64, @Epsilon_R, @chosen, @Kazuma_kuwabara, @Arkenis, @CloverDragon03, @MintyBoi1, @BoastJr, @ImmortalDread, @Killerdrone123, @EL_xWatcher1234x

Gojo: @BadSystems, @Nierre, @Dr._whiteee, @LordGinSama

Goku Victims: @Bastolan27, @EldemadeDityjon, @Loyd


No pics because I'm lazy again for the 3rd time and on mobile
 
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Based on what DT's been saying in the Fran thread...

Equalized power systems = Yami nullifies Infinity via magic null stuff.

Non-equalized power systems = Magic inherently bypasses Infinity due to magic not being among the things Gojo's Infinity is tuned to automatically block out.
As stated to DT, that isn't how it works. The power nullification still needs to be able to interact with the result of the technique. DT is correct in that using powernull on Gojo to stop him from using Infinity would work, but not an infinity that is already up and manifesting the concept of infinity. From our page:

It would be a No Limits Fallacy to assume someone with this ability can nullify anything that falls within the phenomena their powers are made to counter. It is to be assumed that any negation power has its limitations based on the strongest thing it has nullified, and a character may be resistant to the ability (at least in one of its forms), preventing it from having its usual effects.

Per my example, equalizing chakra and CE in a battle would not allow Preta path to absorb limitless off of Gojo, as he's never interacted with concepts before.
 
Yami can cut true space and dimensions he just one shots if he uses dimension slash
No, Gojo's dimension of Infinity is abstract and has different properties than that of normal space. Sukuna needed to cut the concept of existence in order to hit Gojo as he couldn't target him prior.
 
No, Gojo's dimension of Infinity is abstract and has different properties than that of normal space. Sukuna needed to cut the concept of existence in order to hit Gojo as he couldn't target him prior.
Last time I check gojo infinity brings the abstract idea into reality which is something that shouldn’t be possible never was one was it said to be a conceptual space. Besides how those this stop the slash when the slash just ignores it.
 
Last time I check gojo infinity brings the abstract idea into reality which is something that shouldn’t be possible never was one was it said to be a conceptual space. Besides how those this stop the slash when the slash just ignores it.
Then you haven't checked in a bit, Gojo's space allows for things such as negative distances and the realization of pure abstract parameters that define his space. Which of course is not equatable to regular space.

It stops it because Yami can't interact with conceptual space. Sukuna himself specifically states that he had to cut space, the world, and existence itself in order to bypass limitless to hit Gojo "in that world" regular spatial slash isn't bypassing limitless.
 
Then you haven't checked in a bit, Gojo's space allows for things such as negative distances and the realization of pure abstract parameters that define his space. Which of course is not equatable to regular space.

It stops it because Yami can't interact with conceptual space. Sukuna himself specifically states that he had to cut space, the world, and existence itself in order to bypass limitless to hit Gojo "in that world" regular spatial slash isn't bypassing limitless.
Yami attacks cut through a dimension he definitely as the capabilities.

Gojo ability literally brings something that’s abstract and shouldn’t be possible into reality. Characters in jjk can literally feel infinity and are able to interact with it physically you don’t need cm to bypass it.
 
I mean isn't cutting space considered to be cutting existence as well? What Sukuna said can be interpreted that it's a simple spatial cutting.

I think DS can bypass Infinity.
No, Sukuna specifically keeps elaborating on the scale that he had to cut Gojo with the world and existence being extended beyond just space. The JJK world is also inherently void/info type 2, so it isn't the same as a regular physical universe, and we clearly see Sukuna cut the fundamental void with his slash.

Sukuna's slash is already accepted as concept type 2 bypassing infinity, so there isn't much to debate here unless we're just gonna pretend it never happened.
 
No, Sukuna specifically keeps elaborating on the scale that he had to cut Gojo with the world and existence being extended beyond just space. The JJK world is also inherently void/info type 2, so it isn't the same as a regular physical universe, and we clearly see Sukuna cut the fundamental void with his slash.

Sukuna's slash is already accepted as concept type 2 bypassing infinity, so there isn't much to debate here unless we're just gonna pretend it never happened.
Then we are gonna pretend that it never happened

Yami FRA 🧢
 
You guys need to forgot about such fodder
Theres a lot of more cool characters in Jujutsu for Vs Matches, like Sukuna
Too be fair, Gojo is the most popular JJK character by far. But DAMN, I've been seeing matches only about ½ man. Most Gojo matches play out as "oh they cant bypass infinity" and if they can... its usually a horriffic stomp.
 
Yami attacks cut through a dimension he definitely as the capabilities.
No he doesn't. Dimensions are comprised of space alone. Infinity is not. Yami needs to be able to interact with what he's cutting and can't.
Gojo ability literally brings something that’s abstract and shouldn’t be possible into reality.
Correct, making it conceptual.
Characters in jjk can literally feel infinity and are able to interact with it physically you don’t need cm to bypass it.
No? Concepts can interact with lower realities from the top down lol. That's like saying since ghosts can interact with regular humans that humans can also interact with ghosts. That's not how this works.
 
No he doesn't. Dimensions are comprised of space alone. Infinity is not. Yami needs to be able to interact with what he's cutting and can't.

Correct, making it conceptual.

No? Concepts can interact with lower realities from the top down lol. That's like saying since ghosts can interact with regular humans that humans can also interact with ghosts. That's not how this works.
How does gojo doing that make it conceptual he legit makes stop being an abstract space making it something real if anything it makes it non conceptual

Yami cut through a dimension of pure imaginations
 
No he doesn't. Dimensions are comprised of space alone. Infinity is not. Yami needs to be able to interact with what he's cutting and can't.

Correct, making it conceptual.

No? Concepts can interact with lower realities from the top down lol. That's like saying since ghosts can interact with regular humans that humans can also interact with ghosts. That's not how this works.
Am not talking about curse spirits, we’ve seen characters like toji touch infinity and seen physical objects like pencil touch infinity.
 
How does gojo doing that make it conceptual he legit makes stop being an abstract space making it something real if anything it makes it non conceptual
No? You do realize the JJK reality is inherently mental correct? Even in a purely physical universe, concept manip exists lmao. The whole point of his power is making a normally abstract thing, actually exist. But it still maintains the abstract qualities..hence why Gojo's powers work the ay they do.
Yami cut through a dimension of pure imaginations
Was it conceptual?
 
No? You do realize the JJK reality is inherently mental correct? Even in a purely physical universe, concept manip exists lmao. The whole point of his power is making a normally abstract thing, actually exist. But it still maintains the abstract qualities..hence why Gojo's powers work the ay they do.

Was it conceptual?
You got proof that jjk universe is purely mental.

Like what u even arguing about. Gojo infinity legit makes an abstract concept which shouldn’t be possible in the real world become reality it’s based on science. If anything it’s the opposite of what u are describing.

If it’s was purely conceptual objects and purely trying to interact with him will just pass through him.

Regular objects are able to interact with infinity based on the notion that it slows them down how can’t it slow them down if the don’t interact with it
 
You got proof that jjk universe is purely mental.
Go read the ontology blog or the series, either would suffice. You're literally arguing things already passed.
Like what u even arguing about. Gojo infinity legit makes an abstract concept which shouldn’t be possible in the real world become reality it’s based on science. If anything it’s the opposite of what u are describing.
You're literally just making shit up lmao.
If it’s was purely conceptual objects and purely trying to interact with him will just pass through him.
No it wouldn't. You just made this up.
Regular objects are able to interact with infinity based on the notion that it slows them down how can’t it slow them down if the don’t interact with it

Yes, anything interacting with infinity space gets subject to the conceptual law of infinity which obviously would not be the case if it wasn't being actively manifested.....But it is...Thus it's a conceptual space with different properties than normal space.


If you're just going to keep begging questions and making up random rules about abilities that don't actually exist, I'm gonna go ahead and drop this convo.
 
then tell me why it slows people down. please explain how it could possibly slow them down with them interacting it. like you just made this argument up in other to buff gojo.
 
Sigh… another BC match up. Following but responses will be slow due to me having to study for finals next week.

I’m seeing a lot of gibber gabber about infinity.
 
then tell me why it slows people down.
By tampering with the local scale of distance.
please explain how it could possibly slow them down with them interacting it.
Infinity is interacting with them my guy. I truly don't understand what you are getting at here. You seem to be implying that concepts can't exist in regular reality or else they stop being concepts but that isn't the case. Concepts can affect reality lower than them when type 2 and that is how Gojo achieves his powers. By your logic no concept manip users would be able to use their powers or they would instantly stop being conceptual.

Literally just read the definition of the power you are trying to make shit up about:

Dependent Concepts: Such concepts are abstract and govern all reality within their area of influence. These concepts shape everything, and changing them would either require the alteration of every object of the concept or, if manipulated directly, change all objects of the concept alongside the concept itself. These concepts, however, exist simultaneously with and are bound by the object of the concept. In this way, an abstract dependent concept can be destroyed by destroying all objects of the concept, restored by re-making an object of a previously existent concept, or changed by changing all objects of the concept across reality. This, however, does not qualify for this form of conceptual manipulation, and is rather treated as a by-product of another action akin to a "domino effect". This type of conceptual manipulation can only be obtained if the abstract concept itself is changed directly, and not by indirect methods. For example, destroying humanity and thus "ending the concept of humanity" would not qualify, while directly "ending the concept of humanity" and thus destroying humanity would qualify.
like you just made this argument up in other to buff gojo.
I didn't, it's literally on his page.
 
no the reason why gojo as concept manipulation is because he made an conceptual idea become reality not because infinity is a conceptual space
You are wrong again, it's specifically a space that can allow for physical impossibilities such as negative natural numbers, is specifically stated to be infinite in scope, and have special inner product properties that make it different. At this point I'm done arguing with you, since you are making no actual attempt to understand his powers of JJKs power system.
 
You are wrong again, it's specifically a space that can allow for physical impossibilities such as negative natural numbers, is specifically stated to be infinite in scope, and have special inner product properties that make it different. At this point I'm done arguing with you, since you are making no actual attempt to understand his powers of JJKs power system.
exactly which is something that shouldn't be possible in Reality. infinity is an idea that is impossible to occur in the real world But gojo can make it possible for infinity to manifest in the real world hence making infinity a reality. but for some reason you arguing that it still exists in its conceptual form when physical objects can still interact with.
 
Even if he actually brought the concept of infinity to reality, I don’t see how that stops an attack that could cut through not 2 worlds at once, with one of them being infinite
 
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