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Why isn't Todd's big moon feat considered an outlier? (Possible Scott Pilgrim downgrade?)
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Actually, it happened twice if I remember, once for Ramona, once for Envy. I'll try find the other time.
Edit: I was right.
It still doesn't make it not an outlier, but there was more than one showing.
Edit: I was right.
It still doesn't make it not an outlier, but there was more than one showing.
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Sadly I do kind of agree with this. One thing though, do we consider Scott punching someone so they see the curvature of the earth a joke or an actual feat ?
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I agree with this. It's clearly a massive outlier that Todd did the exact same multi continent level feat only twice when the series is otherwise filled with only wall level to building level feats. Especially when characters like Envy of all people are capable of harming him.
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Scott jokes at one point that he punched someone so hard that theybkiterally saw the curvature of the earth. I'll get a pic of it when I can but even though he might be joking, there's also a substantial chance he wasn't given the nature of SP
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I would agree that scaling anyone else to the feat would be wrong.
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Roxy scales to Mr. Chau, who can cut through a bus. Scott survives getting thrown into the air pretty high and falling.
There are some game feats, but I'm fairly sure the canon of the game can't really work with the comics and movie.
There are some game feats, but I'm fairly sure the canon of the game can't really work with the comics and movie.
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So would this affect both the comics and film versions ?
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8-C Scott probably makes sense. He scales to Lucas Lee anyway and should be more powerful/skilled by the end when taking on Gideon Graves
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I'm with op
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Also what should we do with Film Scott scaling to Gideon and his x7 multiplier by the end of the film?
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Volumes 1-4
Firstly, Scott isn't portrayed as increasing in strength throughout the first few volumes. These take place within several months of each other, and Scott is already a very competent fighter. Scott has multiple Wall level feats, so here's a quick list
Scott has multiple SuperHuman feats. He's the best fighter in the providence, quickly making more than 60 punches in a matter of seconds, he should also be faster than people who can play entire songs in 0.4 seconds. However, he's nowhere near as fast as Roxie, who's FTE to him, although he could tag her with a punch. Lucas Lee also had difficulty reacting at 309 km/h, and died after moving faster.
Power-Ups
After "leveling up", Scott outsped Roxie and split her in two with ease, only recieving a single cut. Later, he defeated the twins, both of whom are superior to Roxie, upon recovering from his hangover.
There's the power of understanding, of course, but it's not exact worth mentioning outside the tiering, so I'll get to it.
Conclusion
Early Scott and people who scale to him, including Matthew Patel, Lucas Lee, Todd Ingram (physically), Mr. Chau, Ramona Flowers and Roxie Richter are Wall level, likely Small Building level. They are also SuperHuman with Subsonic combat speed, excluding the latter three who are straight up Subsonic. Todd also has Continent level+ AP with Vegan Powers.
The Twins, Power of Love/Understanding Scott, Power of Love Ramona, Gideon Graves and NegaScott are at least Wall level, likely Small Building level with at least Subsonic travel speed.
Firstly, Scott isn't portrayed as increasing in strength throughout the first few volumes. These take place within several months of each other, and Scott is already a very competent fighter. Scott has multiple Wall level feats, so here's a quick list
- Scott easily fodderizes Mattew Patel, who had just punched through the roof of a warehouse. Contrary to what his profile says, this isn't a Wall level+ feat, even if were 2 metres wide and 10 cm thick. Wall level.
- Lucas Lee throws Scott into Casa Loma. We can see the damages here, and it's negligible, Scott is also knocked out and falls down after, meaning he wasn't thrown through it. This is probably Wall level, maybe Small Building level, but certainly not Building level.
- Todd throws Scott through a Wall. Self-explanatory Wall level.
- Tood throws Scott into the sky. Even if he fell from Low-Earth orbit, this would breech Wall level.
- Now, the Honest Eds feat. The building wasn't exactly blown up, more collapsed by Todd's power, but let's go through it anyway. Assuming the blast is baseline Building level and Scott was standing 2 metres away (both of which seem reasonable), he would've tanked a blast 2x higher than baseline Small Building level.
Scott has multiple SuperHuman feats. He's the best fighter in the providence, quickly making more than 60 punches in a matter of seconds, he should also be faster than people who can play entire songs in 0.4 seconds. However, he's nowhere near as fast as Roxie, who's FTE to him, although he could tag her with a punch. Lucas Lee also had difficulty reacting at 309 km/h, and died after moving faster.
Power-Ups
After "leveling up", Scott outsped Roxie and split her in two with ease, only recieving a single cut. Later, he defeated the twins, both of whom are superior to Roxie, upon recovering from his hangover.
There's the power of understanding, of course, but it's not exact worth mentioning outside the tiering, so I'll get to it.
Conclusion
Early Scott and people who scale to him, including Matthew Patel, Lucas Lee, Todd Ingram (physically), Mr. Chau, Ramona Flowers and Roxie Richter are Wall level, likely Small Building level. They are also SuperHuman with Subsonic combat speed, excluding the latter three who are straight up Subsonic. Todd also has Continent level+ AP with Vegan Powers.
The Twins, Power of Love/Understanding Scott, Power of Love Ramona, Gideon Graves and NegaScott are at least Wall level, likely Small Building level with at least Subsonic travel speed.
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Very nice
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I agree with Lonkitt
It's probably a good thing, Scott isn't haxxed enough to contend with other tier 6's
It's probably a good thing, Scott isn't haxxed enough to contend with other tier 6's
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It shouldn't be an outlier as he did it twice and was a major plot point. Rest should probably be rescaled though.
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Roshi blowing up the moon was also a major plot point.
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Did Roshi blow up the moon twice?
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