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what would be the tier for this verse's cosmology?

The Lord of the Tao sensed an abnormal change in the Secular World. Makes sense since the abnormal change started in Earth and actually Jiang Shang said that "If fhe disorder extends to the Universe" meaning it was just a local phenomenon at that time when they were whisked away by the Diagram. This being a proof for 2C is very reaching.
 
Darksmash said:
Why would that suggest that they are seperate space time continuums?
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For the heavens to be unaffected or untouched by the disorder of the five phases that would rip apart the secular world, it would need to be either 1 of these possibilities

1.It would need to exist outside the secular world or transcend it to a significant degree.

2.It is a place that exist as a realm of a certain idea or in simpler terms it would be an abstract realm.

3.its simply unbound by the concept of the five phases.
 
Immortalgodd said:
The Lord of the Tao sensed an abnormal change in the Secular World. Makes sense since the abnormal change started in Earth and actually Jiang Shang said that "If fhe disorder extends to the Universe" meaning it was just a local phenomenon at that time when they were whisked away by the Diagram. This being a proof for 2C is very reaching.
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Seems like it but what do you mean by the proof is very reaching?
 
Greatsage13th said:
For the heavens to be unaffected or untouched by the disorder of the five phases that would rip apart the secular world, it would need to be either 1 of these possibilities

1.It would need to exist outside the secular world or transcend it to a significant degree.

2.It is a place that exist as a realm of a certain idea or in simpler terms it would be an abstract realm.

3.its simply unbound by the concept of the five phases.
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...Or maybe the disorder's range was small?
What exactly are these 5 phases anyway?
 
They are the Five Elements. The disorder range was very local when it started.
 
They are five elements that represents the concept of the five phases that represents the basis of all things inside the universe
 
Pretty sure you shouldn't say that it was very local when the entire secular world was shook and Dao De Tian Sun stated that the changes were very abnormal
 
What shall I Elaborate?
That I don't think these are seperate space time continuums because some "disorder" was localised in one realm?
 
Okay it's simple if a low 2C attack affects this realm but however never reached the realm next to it like...at all. It's 2C by nature.
 
No. He said he felt disorder in the secular world. Not that the world shook. And we have scene were the only place that shook was were the fight took place and statements on how it hadn't spread.
 
Immortalgodd said:
No. He said he felt disorder in the secular world. Not that the world shook. And we have scene were the only place that shook was were the fight took place and statements on how it hadn't spread.
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Yeah but still to assume that even the heavens would be affected by that would be quite a downplay when hell is treated as a separate realm
 
Beerus reasoning is more than that. And Beerus was going to destroy TWO Universes and their space time during his fight against Champa.
 
It was 2. It wasn't 2C because it was being done by both Champa and Beerus. That's what I know anyway.
 
Darksmash said:
Not half 2-C,they are only 2-C when combined
They are individually low 2-C for other reasons afaik
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okay the difference is they destroy these universes respectively by physical force while The five flags are conceptual whilst warping reality when used altogether or when used against one another but the latter begins to kill off each other while warping the concept of the five phases and overtime would cause the mortal universe to be destroyed along with the five phases.
 
They should be just elements that make up the world.
 
Immortalgodd said:
They should be just elements that make up the world.
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The five directional flags are items that represents each fundamental element that represents all things in the universe just like how the Wu Ji Xi Huang Qi represents Earth while the others represents metal, wood , fire and water respectively
 
Immortalgodd said:
Yes. Elements that make up the world.
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And represents each of them on a conceptual level. But however the best that this could do is just concept manipulation type 3 as destroying everything that represents earth would kill the Wu ji Xi Huang Qi
 
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But yet again it doesn't seem to affect hell nor heaven let alone eight scenery palace even if we let the effects spread overtime.
 
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