Vytal Festival Bracket Round 1, Match 1

[Firephoenixearl]

If Aruto needs to fight Mirio, he could let his Shine Cryster to help with Ming.

Reducing his own options against Mirio? Not good.

They can fire lasers and even act as a forcefield. Even then, it wouldn't take long for Aruto to teleport to help Ming and his AI and TP makes it hard for Mirio to land a hit.

Thing is, that's if he knows not to engage in hand to hand combat. Considering Mirio's AP advantage 2 or so hits in the solar plexus or jaw should be a KO. Why would Aruto know not to engage in h2h before then?

 

[BERRIES555]

Giving the Shine Crysters to Ming wouldn't change much since forcefields wouldn't be useful. Ai, TP and mobility makes him difficult to hit, especially after they can read Mirio's attack which would take a few seconds.

Aruto specializes with his TP and APrediction, he would rather dodge an attack than try blocking it. Aruto could also TP off the fly, if Mirio tres to hit Aruto, he could easily teleport out of the way. And he also has access to range attacks with his Attache Calibur and Authorized Buster. Once he realized Ming is in trouble, he could easily one shot Oleander with his finisher..

 

[BERRIES555]

Also, Aruto's Rider System allows him to keep on fighting even if his body's broken. Yaibia, a weaker Rider, is able to keep on fighting even with a broken arm. Not only that, Aruto has fought even under insane amounts of pain. And considering how Aruto was able to get the jump on Ark, someone who can see billions of scenerios in 0.001 seconds, he definitely can get the jump on Oleander and Mori, turning this fight into a 2 v 3.

 

[Nicetoderp]

Thing is, that's if he knows not to engage in hand to hand combat. Considering Mirio's AP advantage 2 or so hits in the solar plexus or jaw should be a KO. Why would Aruto know not to engage in h2h before then?

Mirio’s AP advantage doesn’t even goes above two times Zero-One with him being immensely stronger than the 5 tonners Shining Hopper. EoS Zero-One have no problem dodging attacks from people with Precog/APrediction with ease. And just a few punches to the jaws won’t knock him out. This man take much worse punishment than that and he came out fine.

His Rider System also have passive abilities to allow the user to fight longer.

And honestly if he so desire he fly into the sky and shot at Oleander if he so desire.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Mirio’s AP advantage doesn’t even goes above two times Zero-One with him being immensely stronger than the 5 tonners Shining Hopper. EoS Zero-One have no problem dodging attacks from people with Precog/APrediction with ease. And just a few punches to the jaws won’t knock him out. This man take much worse punishment than that and he came out fine.

Im not sure how familiar you are, but your guy scaes above 5 tons. Mirio 1 shots 8.13 ton ppl on a sunday afternoon so....yes 1 or 2 shots will incapacitate, cause concussion or KO. Im not even sure how you can argue about the AP advantage honestly.

Flying and all that jazz, it depends on how in character those are, and Oleander has her own teleport. Not to mention the smoke manip that will act as a perfect smoke screen for mirio and Mori. Working wonders when it comes to ending the fight.

 

[00potato]

Wait isn’t Mirio illegal then? He one shots Yang and therefore shouldn’t be allowed in the tourney.

 

[BERRIES555]

That's if Mirio even hits Aruto to begin with. Aruto's AI and TP will ensure that Miro wouldn't be able to land a hit.

Aruto, without an AI or TP, was able to catch Ark-Zero off guard. He'll definitely be able to one shot Oleander with TP and AI.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Wait isn’t Mirio illegal then? He one shots Yang and therefore shouldn’t be allowed in the tourney.

Not really, doesn't Yang similarly scale above people who 1 shot their High 8-C calc?

 

[Tllmbrg]

Almost all the picks are like that tbf

 

[Tllmbrg]

Not really, doesn't Yang similarly scale above people who 1 shot their High 8-C calc?

With her stat amp iirc
Which is basically stacking several High 8-C attacks together

 

[Firephoenixearl]

That's if Mirio even hits Aruto to begin with. Aruto's AI and TP will ensure that Miro wouldn't be able to land a hit.

Aruto, without an AI or TP, was able to catch Ark-Zero off guard. He'll definitely be able to one shot Oleander with TP and AI.

TP is a null point, Mirio is capable of a similar thing by going through the ground. And prediction, Mirio has the same thing. And i love how you're all just making this guy "he only runs away lmao", i'm gonna need a video of him just seeing an opponent and yeeting himself the f away.

Very bad argument tbh. It's TP vs TP, not gonna accomplish anything, especially with smokes.

 

[BERRIES555]

(1:44)

Aruto chaining his TP against someone who's AI is able to make himself untouchable.

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An incomplete version of Shining Hopper and it's teleportation was completely outclassed by the Dodo Magia's AI. Aruto would later body him once he gains his AI as shown above

(1:28)

Aruto teleporting right trough the Whale Rider's attacks.

How good is Mirio's prediction?

The Dodo Magia's AI already makes himself untouchable and the Shining Arithmetic already surpasses that by thousands of times. SAH's would later be able to keep up with the Thousand Signal, which is 4x better than the Shining Arithmetic. And by the end of the series, Aruto is able to fight people who can predict billions of scenarios when he didn't even had an AI

 

[BERRIES555]

Also, being able to make a smoke screen wouldn't be useful since Aruto could just track all of them

 

[Sir_Ovens]

I ask again. How tf did he make it past Yang.

 

[Tllmbrg]

Depends how Mori did?

 

[00potato]

How does Mori absolutely stomp Yang?

 

[Tllmbrg]

Skillz

 

[00potato]

I can’t tell if this is a joke or if you are just one of those folks.

 

[Tllmbrg]

I can’t tell if this is a joke or if you are just one of those folks.

 

[00potato]

good meme 10/12.

Yeah but in the end Yang still has semblance, Gun, and enough formal training to make it fair.
Mirio one shots and is intangible, he completely stomps, and so

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Argument: He just teleports outta the way not to get close
The video used to prove this: Always uses teleport to get in range.

Yes, i see.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Mirio one shots

He doesn't. Yang also has feats of 1 shotting High 8-C ppl.

 

[BERRIES555]

In the first video, Aruto is shown to be able to teleport as soon as the Dodo Magia tries to attack him.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Not really, first of all that was a ranged attack and he teleports to close the gap, not increase it (meaning he prefers h2h combat). Second of all, he still dodges the rockets before teleporting.

 

[IxaSaga2]

Argument: He just teleports outta the way not to get close
The video used to prove this: Always uses teleport to get in range.

Yes, i see.

Multiple times in the vid, he TPs to dodge. Also, the argument is Zero-One being able to TP to help out his team to get an advantage. He has done this multiple times in the series.

Ex:

When an enemy knocked away Zero-One's teammate, Zero-One TPed to catch him, even when he was ready to attack said opponent. This would improve Zero-one's chances of winning so he chose to do that instead.

In another episode, Zero-One was attacked by 3 enemies. He took out the 2 weaker ones and get them out of commission before focusing on the stronger one. This helped his chances of succeeding in his 1 vs 3.

 

[BERRIES555]

You could see that Aruto teleports in and then teleports to another hologram to land a hit. Once Aruto realized he can't hit Mirio, he'll just teleport out of the way.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

You could see that Aruto teleports in and then teleports to another hologram to land a hit. Once Aruto realized he can't hit Mirio, he'll just teleport out of the way.

And he'll get hit how many times before he realizes that? Gotta remind you that Mirio incaps in 1 shot people far above Aruto.

 

[00potato]

He doesn't. Yang also has feats of 1 shotting High 8-C ppl.

With or without Semblance?

 

[BERRIES555]

The problem is that he'll instinctively out of the way, you can see this in the fight with the Dodo Magia. Aruto's AI also could predict how and where Mirio would attack once he realized that normal attacks can't hit him.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

once he realized that normal attacks can't hit him.

Emphasis on this. Once he realizes that.

Aruto's AI also could predict how and where Mirio would attack

Same for Mirio actually.

 

[BERRIES555]

Also, here's a video of Aruto jumping in to save his teammates. So him saving Ming is in character.

https://sethphat.com/videos/dJoRoa-1.html (7:40)

 

[BERRIES555]

How good is his APrediction, I already showed the chain for Aruto's AI.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Also, here's a video of Aruto jumping in to save his teammates. So him saving Ming is in character.

https://sethphat.com/videos/dJoRoa-1.html (7:40)

That's kind of a bad example. Considering we see how in the last moments of that video we see another dude in a fight and him not going to help disregarding his own opponent.

And that's still only going in to "save his life", not to help. The dude Aruto saved was about to get nuked, he didn't just jump in mid fight. Hell, did Aruto even have an opponent before he jumped in to save his friend?

 

[IxaSaga2]

That's kind of a bad example. Considering we see how in the last moments of that video we see another dude in a fight and him not going to help disregarding his own opponent.

The pink and purple guys are the enemy.

And that's still only going in to "save his life", not to help. The dude Aruto saved was about to get nuked, he didn't just jump in mid fight. Hell, did Aruto even have an opponent before he jumped in to save his friend?

Zero-One was originally not apart of this fight. And him blocking the attack from purple dude was his first scene there. Which means that his first thought was to save the bee girl.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

The pink and purple guys are the enemy.

Why didn't go help that guy beat the pink guy?

Zero-One was originally not apart of this fight. And him blocking the attack from purple dude was his first scene there. Which means that his first thought was to save the bee girl.

That's normal though. He just came in and saw a fight and decided to fight. That's what everyone would do. He didn't just ditch a fight to go save the bee girl.

 

[BERRIES555]

He already know how strong Fuwa, the blue wolf guy, is.

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Here, we even see that he was threatening to kill Jin, the pink guy, until Horobi, the purple dude, jumped in.

 

[IxaSaga2]

That's normal though. He just came in and saw a fight and decided to fight. That's what everyone would do. He didn't just ditch a fight to go save the bee girl.

Protecting her was normal yes. But as I said above, 01 in another episode, had the option to attack the enemy or save his ally that was getting knocked down. He chose the latter.

Edit: Also, as I stated above, in a 1 vs 3 he chose to go after 2 of the weaker links to the fight ignoring the strongest one. After he dispatched of the 2 weaker links, he put all his attention to the strongest one there.

Basically, he prioritizes saving his allies/making decisions that improve his chances of winning.

 

[BERRIES555]

Aruto knew that Yaiba, yellow girl, wouldn't be able to beat Horobi on her own, so he stepped in to help. In this fight, since they have basic knowledge of each other's abilities, Aruto will see that Ming would need help to fight Mori and Oleander, he'll easily teleport and take out Olender. Heck, he could take her out from the get go if he really wanted to.

After that, Ming Buddha Aura would make Mori doubtful to even attack him. Then two things could happen, Aruto helps fight Mori with Ming or Mirio runs in to stop the both of them. The second scenario would end up with everyone fighting with each other.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Protecting her was normal yes. But as I said above, 01 in another episode, had the option to attack the enemy or save his ally that was getting knocked down. He chose the latter.

Edit: Also, as I stated above, in a 1 vs 3 he chose to go after 2 of the weaker links to the fight ignoring the strongest one. After he dispatched of the 2 weaker links, he put all his attention to the strongest one there.

Basically, he prioritizes saving his allies/making decisions that improve his chances of winning.

That would require ming to be in a very disadvantageous situation though basically getting stomped. Which ain't gonna happen that soon. His forcefields will help him quite a bit.

If he does ditch the fight with mirio and go help other people, the moment he teleports next to Jin or Oleander he'll get a kick on his flank from a mirio who did the same that will KO him. Not to mention, he'd have to decide which one is the weak link first.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Considering the fact that Zero One is the strongest here, Mori is going to go in on him first. Instinctive reaction handles the teleport and analytical prediction as Mori likes to perform counters while being hit, like when he attacked the ankle of an opponent while he was being kicked away. His strategy always seeks to give himself an advantage, so wounding vitals and areas that would impede Zero One is par for the course.

Acupuncture negates dura and can blow up Aruto's blood vessels from the inside. Wounds caused by acupuncture negate Mid-Low regen and can't be healed by cellular healing. Mori can also surround himself with walls of fire using Ssam-Su Taekkyeon, send energy into Aruto with Tai Chi, attacking his vitals, and use illusionary swords to cut Aruto.