Vision Question [MCU]

[Damage3245]

Is Vision 'sensing Thanos coming' really Precognition? Isn't that just him knowing about Thanos due to his connection with the Infinity Stones? It's like he looked into the future.

It seems like what he did would be Extrasensory Perception, or a kind of limited Clairvoyance at best.

Also, regarding his Weaknesses section can we add that electricity can stun him? He seemed partially paralyzed after being hit with Hawkeye's electrical arrows.

 

[Antvasima]

You can ask some of the people listed in the Marvel Cinematic Universe page to comment here if you wish.

 

[The_Impress]

Not knowledgeable, but the MCU wiki describes the ability as such:

Vision, having lately felt as the Mind Stone was warning him about something, realized that the aliens who attacked New York were coming after the Mind Stone from his forehead.

So according to that description, Vision didn't know that Thanos' forces were coming, he himself came onto that conclusion, which seems more like Extrasensory Perception than straight up Precog.

Also, in regards to electricity weakness, electrical attacks from Black Widow and Hawkeye can stun people from Black Panther to regular goons, so I think that's more Hawkeye and Romanoff's ability than Vision's weakness.

 

[AKM sama]

Vision first said the stone was trying to say something to him. He didn't know what until he saw Thanos' children. (That's low-key like how Spidey detects a danger).

Later, Vision's stone glows and he knows Thanos is coming. Also a case of precog.

I don't know how it can be extrasensory perception (that is used to detect energy signatures) or clairvoyance (that is a more advanced power). The page even says that a specific type of clairvoyance related to perceiving the future is precog.

And this is very specific. Vision can only sense something that the stone tells him. It means only the events related to the stones, not other normal events. It's just a bad precog. He should have limited precog instead of just straight up precog.

 

[Damage3245]

@AKM sama; the problem is that the Vision doesn't sense the future, as you've said he is just sensing stuff related to the stones.

That's closer to ESP (which doesn't have to be just energy-sensing) than it is to seeing the future.

@Zark2099; Vision seemed to be affected by the electricity quite significantly which makes sense since he is a robotic being. It definitely seems to me to be an exploitable weakness of his.

 

[AKM sama]

ESP page says that it is the ability to detect energy signatures, matter signatures, or the like near the user. He wasn't sensing energy signatures of Thanos's children or Thanos himself.

He was sensing the impending danger on the stone due to their arrival, which imo is more like a bad case of precog (just like how Spidey can sense any impending danger, though his precog is much more efficient).

 

[Damage3245]

Isn't that more similar to Clairvoyance though? He's gaining information through the stones (admittedly not very useful information), but he wasn't actually sensing what would happen in the future.

 

[Antvasima]

"Limited Clairvoyance" seems fine.

 

[AKM sama]

he wasn't actually sensing what would happen in the future.

As far as I understood it, he was sensing that something bad is about to happen because he was also getting these messages from the stone prior to Corvus and Proxima's arrival, kinda like a warning. Then he also sensed Thanos's arrival before he actually arrived, which is precog.

Although, I guess it could also be interpreted as gaining info about a certain thing, like Thanos's teleportation at the end. MCU didn't really make it that clear.