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Now she has the bioelectricity scan on her profile uwu, I got it approved by mods and added~
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Vegeta fights a blonde woman... again (7-12-1).
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I believe Binary is 1 MegaFoe, so that might be better.Omegas03 said:
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Then I don't the reasoning for why not allowing CM get his transformations if Vegeta has many power amps.
Also no lmao. The OP states Carol second Key, i.e Morden Captain Marvel, for what reason it should be switched to her High 6-A form?
And Dragomer@ Those abilities are part of her standard energy absorption, there is not need to of a CRT to add such a details, at most, it can be added right away so people don't complain about abilities not being on the profile.
Also no lmao. The OP states Carol second Key, i.e Morden Captain Marvel, for what reason it should be switched to her High 6-A form?
And Dragomer@ Those abilities are part of her standard energy absorption, there is not need to of a CRT to add such a details, at most, it can be added right away so people don't complain about abilities not being on the profile.
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She doesn't have her P&A divided into Modern and Classic iirc.
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She's not divided P&A wise lol, check yourself.
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Her keys correlate to her physical statistics, not her P&A, hence no reason to divide it.
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I will try to make this clear as possible.
Carol is not like Iron Man who gets a new armor, or Thor who gets a new hammer, or Hulk who gets a new mutation.
Carol gets newer abilities by learning newer ways to use her powers, unless is something like Binary, all her powers are applied to both her Classic and Modern form, the major difference is that one is less experienced than the other.
Carol is not like Iron Man who gets a new armor, or Thor who gets a new hammer, or Hulk who gets a new mutation.
Carol gets newer abilities by learning newer ways to use her powers, unless is something like Binary, all her powers are applied to both her Classic and Modern form, the major difference is that one is less experienced than the other.
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I mean tbh, if there's a difference between the P&As she showcased in her classic form(Ms.Marvel) and modern form(Captain Mohawk) then they should be separated imo.
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Her powers and abilities do not change as her physical strength is improved with each key. I... really don't understand what you're saying there...
Her powers and abilities do not change as her physical strength is improved with each key. I... really don't understand what you're saying there...
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Alright then I suppose.Newendigo said:
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Maybe but that reason can also be used to share her stats between the key so that doesn't answer my question.Newendigo said:
Also the same can be said for Vegeta but he doesn't share the abilities he demonstrated as an SSJB with his lower forms.
I'm not trying to argue with the profiles or something, i'm just legit confused.
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Her Modern incarnation is shown to be far stronger than what her Classic incarnation was potrayed as, so we split the profile into better reflect both the character's versions. Again... what's so hard to grasp in that?
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I legitimately don't understand what you're even asking, maybe word it differently?
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Here.
In a short, is based of "eras", in which certain characters have different power levels, not because of a power change or specific retcon, but because they are now potrayed way more different than theirs classic eras.
If you are still confused, then I can help no more as is getting outsite of my boundary of knowledge.
In a short, is based of "eras", in which certain characters have different power levels, not because of a power change or specific retcon, but because they are now potrayed way more different than theirs classic eras.
If you are still confused, then I can help no more as is getting outsite of my boundary of knowledge.
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Anyways for the time being, Carol FRA because mindwipe ig
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Actually wait, isn't this a oneshot? Because apparently the scaling chain puts them at 22.8 MegaFOE
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It's not mindhax, it's a weird bio manip
Also Again, want clarity on this being a oneshot or not
Also Again, want clarity on this being a oneshot or not
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Mhmm, how is this not a stomp then?
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Vegeta doesn't resist energy absorption so if Marvel grapple him and Vegeta doesn't rip off her arm immediatly, she can probably drain him to death (unless her limit is 1 Megafoe as someone said earlier)Zark2099 said:
There also that bio-electricity manipulation you added.
Still give the win to Vegeta personaly but Marvel has wincons at least.
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She has a limit on the energy absorption apparently and her mindwipe is clearly not her opening move while Vegeta just does anything and oneshot her.
She has impossible wincons.
She has impossible wincons.
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Yeah I'm closing this it seems, if anyone can come up with valid wincons feel free to post at my message wall and I'll reopen the thread, k?
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Oh ok lol
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Anyway, I will start True Debater Mode.
I got Vegeta scaling (I hope so), but no one's detailed Carols.
Modern Marvel = Model 51 Iron Man.
Model 51 Iron Man >>> Model 50.
Model 50 >>>>>>> (One Shot) Hulkbuster Mk2.
Hulkbuster MK2 =< World War Hulk >>>> Normal Hulk >>> Silver Surfer who is casually 360+ KiloFoes
So you could say that Carol would have the greater AP advantage even against Vegeta SSJ and maybe a bit below SSJ2.
Don't forget energy absorption, which not only increases her strength, it can be done from range, directly weaken opponents and damage severly to the point of KO, and of course target their bio energy such as heat and electricty, killing them if not holding back (It also has another abilities that are not on the profile but let's stop there).
The limit? No idea, albeit logically it should be after entering Binary, which by the scan above, Carol was already transformed, and because is restriced in the match, is hard to pinpoint in which moment she will just stop.
Skill is debateable, yeah DB character are known for being super martial artists, but let's not forget that she is an avenger also, with decades of experience and training, both from the military (Before being a hero) and the avengers.
You could say that Vegeta has better techniques but one can't say he's is going to get it easy in physical brawl, especially up someone who not only has a potent draining but also Lifting Strength (Which means she can lock him and literally suck him to dead).
And going by my limited knowledge, Vegeta is unable to transform to higher forms cus this moro drained of too much power.
In all that, I do say that Carol can pull out a 8 out of 10 at most.
I got Vegeta scaling (I hope so), but no one's detailed Carols.
Modern Marvel = Model 51 Iron Man.
Model 51 Iron Man >>> Model 50.
Model 50 >>>>>>> (One Shot) Hulkbuster Mk2.
Hulkbuster MK2 =< World War Hulk >>>> Normal Hulk >>> Silver Surfer who is casually 360+ KiloFoes
So you could say that Carol would have the greater AP advantage even against Vegeta SSJ and maybe a bit below SSJ2.
Don't forget energy absorption, which not only increases her strength, it can be done from range, directly weaken opponents and damage severly to the point of KO, and of course target their bio energy such as heat and electricty, killing them if not holding back (It also has another abilities that are not on the profile but let's stop there).
The limit? No idea, albeit logically it should be after entering Binary, which by the scan above, Carol was already transformed, and because is restriced in the match, is hard to pinpoint in which moment she will just stop.
Skill is debateable, yeah DB character are known for being super martial artists, but let's not forget that she is an avenger also, with decades of experience and training, both from the military (Before being a hero) and the avengers.
You could say that Vegeta has better techniques but one can't say he's is going to get it easy in physical brawl, especially up someone who not only has a potent draining but also Lifting Strength (Which means she can lock him and literally suck him to dead).
And going by my limited knowledge, Vegeta is unable to transform to higher forms cus this moro drained of too much power.
In all that, I do say that Carol can pull out a 8 out of 10 at most.
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I don't know why I read Moron in Frieza's voice in my head.
But yes, if this is allowed to remain open my vote is still for Carol.
But yes, if this is allowed to remain open my vote is still for Carol.
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Carol was calced at around 400 by her own feat and that's what her profile use when i checked so i doubt she has the AP advantage, especialy when i was told her binary form (so a highter key) is around 1K kilofoe while Vegeta just stacking his form reach like 1200 kilofoe unless i misunderstood the scailing.
Litteraly also those feats of absorption that would matter weren't done from afar and cap below Vegeta's max according to the other Marvel debaters earlier.
Moro can drain energy from a distance without his targets even knowing it on a planetary+ scale, this is not comparable to what Marvel does.
Skill isn't debatble, the experience you speak of is in super heroing, not martial arts and her training is invalid since it was military training which doesn't translate into this kind of battle at all.
His techniques are easier to pull off and Marvel has less way out of them than Marvel's technique against Vegeta, what's more LS still doesn't equate to grip strength nor does it protect her from Vegeta ripping of her arms or mule kicking her head off.
Litteraly also those feats of absorption that would matter weren't done from afar and cap below Vegeta's max according to the other Marvel debaters earlier.
Moro can drain energy from a distance without his targets even knowing it on a planetary+ scale, this is not comparable to what Marvel does.
Skill isn't debatble, the experience you speak of is in super heroing, not martial arts and her training is invalid since it was military training which doesn't translate into this kind of battle at all.
His techniques are easier to pull off and Marvel has less way out of them than Marvel's technique against Vegeta, what's more LS still doesn't equate to grip strength nor does it protect her from Vegeta ripping of her arms or mule kicking her head off.
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This is probably an outlier, but, marvel did temporarily absorb and redirects the Phoenix Force in her binary state.
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