Wonder Woman vs Son Goku

[Nitro90]

That's what there RPL do they get hurt heal get stronger. I just mention black because he doesn't need to heal

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Said plot device is a little thing that's called training. Something they used as a plot device since the 21st Budokai. You know, when the humans were relevant and it wasn't just the Saiyan show. Zenkais became irrelevant after Cell died, and have been irrelevant for the Z fighters even before that. It's not referring to that instance.

Also because base Goku (in the manga) isn't god level. He's Buu level (and frankly I doubt he's even that. I firmly believe he'd need Super Saiyan to beat Buu). Yet Black was able to develop Rosè after that fight.

 

[Dragomer]

Goku got stronger through battle and without Zenkai in except a few cases because he was basicaly impossible to hurt back in DB, thanks for confirming they have reactive power level.

Roshi started out the fight stronger than Goku and explicitly used stuff to counter Goku growing stronger during the fight such as using a style Goku couldn't copy because he didn't know what 'Drunk' was.

Vegeta didn't even try to actualy fight the Ginyu, the best he did was panic, throw attacks and then got wrecked, Vegeta also never fought anyone even in the same ballpark as him before then.

Yeah, training in the middle of a fight, Gohan trained a lot in the middle of the TOP and Zenkai happening without healing during a battle is totaly a thing, training in the middle of battle make a lot of sense.

I'v posted like 3 differents scans of characters saying saiyans have reactive power level and a confirmation from the author, it's clear as day that they have reactive power level and we have even more from the DBS anime.

 

[Nitro90]

Sayians get stronger after a battle from being hurt or pushed they heal and get stronger. That's literal how it been for everyone but Black. What are you even arguing

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Said plot device is a little thing that's called training. Something they used as a plot device since the 21st Budokai. You know, when the humans were relevant and it wasn't just the Saiyan show. Zenkais became irrelevant after Cell died, and have been irrelevant for the Z fighters even before that. It's not referring to that instance.

Also because base Goku (in the manga) isn't god level. He's Buu level (and frankly I doubt he's even that. I firmly believe he'd need Super Saiyan to beat Buu). Yet Black was able to develop Rosè after that fight.

Yea in the beginning of the manga perhaps. But you're ignoring years of training, potential zenkais, and scaling that puts their current base forms at 3-B thanks to Black himself, Post black arc ofc. He's definitely strong enough to destroy DBZ Buu even in base.

 

[The_Causality]

Goku FRA

yeah.

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

Goku FRA and as someone above said goku isn't just going to attack from front. He can even spam IT like this

https://youtu.be/BpyKEsHFVYQ

(Watch at 0:25)

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

13-5.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

I think Grace started 17 hours ago

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Yup. Think Goku is solidified his win.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Geez, is DBZ running a DC gauntlet?

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Geez, is DBZ running a DC gauntlet?

DC AND MARVEL oVo

 

[AstralKing7]

WW FRA. There is so much stuff taken out of context for DB. Goku black doesn't just have RpL because of his body he has it because Zamasu is literally smart enough to abuse his immortality which would let him spam RPL.

No sayian even has that. They get stronger after fighting a battle and healing from the damage they take.

Cal was actually correct. No where does Goku ever get stronger mid fight when he has the disadvantage. Rage boosts obviously don't count as well because they aren't permanent.

I really do like how people are trying to pass Rage boosts as the same thing as RPL when it's literally not. They both even have pages here.

Not only that Goku doesn't have precog.

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

Rage boost is not permanent yes, but enough to get the job done after all WW is not Goku Black who is immortal.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Unless WW killed someone Goku loves, Why would he even get a Rage Boost?

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

Whats stopping Goku from Spamming IT and kamehameha at WW

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Remember how in the anime Goku was getting his ass kicked by Fused Zamasu then all of a sudden he blasts through one of Zamasu's big ass energy balls without a Zenkai Boost? That's one example of him getting stronger mid fight.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Only for him to get kicked back down again.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Also Diana is the same chick who blocks attacks coming from every direction across the universe. What does Goku have that'll top that?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

True, but he still did it, so that's one.

 

[Cropfist]

Wonder Woman for reasons above.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Isnt that only in the anime?

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

Also Diana is the same chick who blocks attacks coming from every direction across the universe. What does Goku have that'll top that?

Speed equal so she isn't fast enough to dodge everything

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Also Diana is the same chick who blocks attacks coming from every direction across the universe. What does Goku have that'll top that?

Also, isn't that feat considered an outlier here?

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

And what's stopping Goku from completly blinding WW with Solar Flare

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Also, isn't that feat considered an outlier here?

Not to my knowledge.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Also,Doesn't the Godwave make her able to see in all directions at once? if that's the case, She would block the warp Kamehameha

 

[AstralKing7]

Rage boost is not permanent yes, but enough to get the job done after all WW is not Goku Black who is immortal.

You literally missed the whole point and it shows. In the first place where would he even get a rage boost from? You really did miss the whole point in why I brought Goku Black up

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

Rage boost is not permanent yes, but enough to get the job done after all WW is not Goku Black who is immortal.

You literally missed the whole point and it shows. In the first place where would he even get a rage boost from? You really did miss the whole point in why I brought Goku Black up

this

https://youtu.be/yo5sHZACJr4

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

Also,Doesn't the Godwave make her able to see in all directions at once? if that's the case, She would block the warp Kamehameha

And then as soon as she blocks kamehameha Goku can just dash forward and punch her

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

When she's blocking the kamehameha? a.k.a when she has the Universal barrier in front of her?

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

yes she can't block her back as she's busy blocking kamehameha or can use Solar Flare to blind her or can create ki mines to stagger her

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

So he's going to use the warp kamehameha, then instant transmission behind her and attack her?

wouldn't the kamehameha fade away if he does that?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

They're in the air. Mines aren't gonna be as effective. Also, Solar Flare? Boi, when?

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

pretty sure she won't be fast enough to immediatly block his attack and,

https://youtu.be/6nqZTK01stk

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

Solar Flare means aboslutely nothing. Wonder Woman can fight blind. In fact, she purposely blinded herself at a point in her career to fight a gorgon and continued active duty until her eyes were healed at later date. Heck, that time she tagged Zoom of all people, she was blind!

 

[Tipper17]

I got Wondy Folks here are overatting goku skill compared to Diana

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

But you see getting blinded will greatly hinder her especially when she's fighting with a Sayian

 

[Tipper17]

yes she can't block her back as she's busy blocking kamehameha or can use Solar Flare to blind her or can create ki mines to stagger her

Goku only creates mines in the anime he never shown the ability in the manga

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

But you see getting blinded will greatly hinder her especially when she's fighting with a Sayia

That only holds true if the person would struggle with fighting blind. WW is skilled enough to deal with it as she has done it before and adjusted. Again, she continued active service until her eyes were healed and got along just fine. Temporary blindness is not going to do much.