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Unpopular Opinions and (Friendly) Rant thread

Robo432343 said:
the only good anime as of right now
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Nah. I myself really like Shangri La Frontier.
Additionally S7 of Natsume Yuujinchou is out and Natsume is peak.
Then there's Re:Zero which slaps.

Like just this season there's several anime which I really enjoyed or am enjoying. I should also continue with Mecha Ude at some point probably, the animation was great and the premise was interesting.
 
DivineAura44 said:
1. I don't think I implied this was an anime only thing but if I did, I'm sorry.
2. Anime is the worst offender of doing this with characters who are simply put, underaged or are intentionally drawn to appear as such.
3. The horror style gore murders aren't as bad because once again, we aren't intended to look at said things and have a positive reaction. When these shows have shots of girls in compromising positions, it's done with the intention of pleasing viewers who like to see it.
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Ah, no my bad. I was putting words in your mouth without meaning to. And I see your point there, hence what I meant with the whole WTF-ness of some japanese media and that you have every right to not like that particular aspect or entire works altogether because of it.

Regarding gore, I'd say yes and no. Some horror movies do play it for, well, horror, but campier slasher films, especially horror comedies or the ones that try to porpusefully be have that shclocky b-movie feel, definitely use them for cool or amusing factor. The 80s and early 90s were chock full of films that porpusely tried to be entertaining by being spectacularily over the top in a "Lol, Jason chocked that naked chick with her own buttocks and then punched that guy's face so hard his skull came out of his own anus" kind of way. There's the whole deal with the Splatter Film genre, and outright comedies that make fun of people being brutally gored like Brainded or Evil Dead II. There are bits of everything.

Now, I'm not saying gore or fanservice are inherently bad or there's something wrong with liking them? But rather depend heavily on execution and case by case. Both can work or end up coming as messed up.
 
Only the characters that were 5D in the previous system are Outerversal. Everyone else are fakers, frauds.
 
Family Guy's humor being mostly based on gore and violence is something that became notable only on the modern seasons due to the series quality decline, at it's start the humor was mostly based on the characters interactions and a few cutaway gags here and there

Season 1-6 are peak FG imo, although there are some gems after it (Most Road to episodes and Back to the Pilot comes to mind), the series completely f#cks itself up in Season 12, then it started to go completely downhill

And yeah, DaMonke is right, American Dad is better than Family Guy
 
Accelerated_Evolution said:
Family Guy's humor being mostly based on gore and violence is something that became notable only on the modern seasons due to the series quality decline, at it's start the humor was mostly based on the characters interactions and a few cutaway gags here and there

Season 1-6 are peak FG imo, although there are some gems after it (Most Road to episodes and Back to the Pilot comes to mind), the series completely f#cks itself up in Season 12, then it started to go completely downhill

And yeah, DaMonke is right, American Dad is better than Family Guy
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Unironically, the first half of the first episode might have been the best part of Family Guy, and it was downhill from there
 
Started to watch Dandadan a few days ago

Not an anime fan by myself (I have watched, like, 6 animes on my whole life), but i admit it is pretty good so far, the supernatural theme is well explored and even the romance aspect is interesting

I'm definitely not going to interact with the fanbase, though, the plot being about a guy who lost his balls already tells me that the majority of it is made up of weird people
 
Accelerated_Evolution said:
Started to watch Dandadan a few days ago

Not an anime fan by myself (I have watched, like, 6 animes on my whole life), but i admit it is pretty good so far, the supernatural theme is well explored and even the romance aspect is interesting

I'm definitely not going to interact with the fanbase, though, the plot being about a guy who lost his balls already tells me that the majority of it is made up of weird people
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It's a good choice if you ask me, sometimes it's best to sit back and enjoy by yourself. Some fanbases can really drag things down.
 
RandomGuy2345 said:
Thing is that anime is what most people watch because cartoons (and really western animation in general) suck so much ass, and whenever there is a cartoon that doesn't make you question your existence, people glaze it like it's the second coming when it's really like a 6/10 at best
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It's really weird how mainstream anime just suddenly got
I saw someone explain that it was because of the lockdown making people bored so they got into anime and realized it was really good and maybe that's what caused it to shoot up in popularity
 
DaMonkeMan said:
It's really weird how mainstream anime just suddenly got
I saw someone explain that it was because of the lockdown making people bored so they got into anime and realized it was really good and maybe that's what caused it to shoot up in popularity
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It was before that. It was kind of a wave that iirc started with kids growing up on Pokemon and the DBZ dub, then the Big 3, etc. It's an exponential effect that skyrocketed in popularity as time passed.

Lockdown too tho.
 
From what I remember, in LatAm some the first stones of the way were paved by dubs of old series like Candy Candy, Captain Tsubasa, Robotech. Then the big breakthrough was made when Saint Seiya and Sailor Moon arrived during the early 90s, and once Dragon Ball (the original, Z would arrive later) entered the picture, the revolution went into overdrive. Then a ton of fondly rememberedseries arrived between the 90s and early 2000s that became pretty big hits in Latin America, even some that were flops in Japan.
 
DaMonkeMan said:
It's really weird how mainstream anime just suddenly got
I saw someone explain that it was because of the lockdown making people bored so they got into anime and realized it was really good and maybe that's what caused it to shoot up in popularity
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Tbf anime started gaining traction during the late 90s to early 2000s in the states, but it was still a mostly niche thing, and it was mainly led by Toonami and 4Kids

However, 4Kids gave anime a horrible rep due to them making unnecessary and awful changes to anime, as well as some of the voice acting being pretty jarring.

During the late 2000s and early 2010s was where I would say anime started to make more noise as people realized that there were dubs that treated the anime well, and by the mid 2010s, anime was mainstream imo

The lockdown was when "tourists" who never saw anime in their lives got bored and started watching anime and started moral policing anime
 
RandomGuy2345 said:
Tbf anime started gaining traction during the late 90s to early 2000s in the states, but it was still a mostly niche thing, and it was mainly led by Toonami and 4Kids

However, 4Kids gave anime a horrible rep due to them making unnecessary and awful changes to anime, as well as some of the voice acting being pretty jarring.

During the late 2000s and early 2010s was where I would say anime started to make more noise as people realized that there were dubs that treated the anime well, and by the mid 2010s, anime was mainstream imo

The lockdown was when "tourists" who never saw anime in their lives got bored and started watching anime and started moral policing anime
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I will say this:

In VSBW, I advocate for more accuracy is better.

But for anime, I often don't care for that tenet.
Anyone who knows the hilarity of the dubs for Yu-Gi-Oh!, the old Pokemon anime & Digimon anime, or Ghost Stories, among other things, as shown by various Youtube videos, probably knows that I mean.

I would genuinely welcome more "gag dubs".
 
Imaginym said:
I will say this:

In VSBW, I advocate for more accuracy is better.

But for anime, I often don't care for that tenet.
Anyone who knows the hilarity of the dubs for Yu-Gi-Oh!, the old Pokemon anime & Digimon anime, or Ghost Stories, among other things, as shown by various Youtube videos, probably knows that I mean.

I would genuinely welcome more "gag dubs".
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Don't get me wrong, I unironically love 4Kids, but I can acknowledge from an objective standpoint that they weren't good for the most part.
 
I personally believe that anime got its popularity off of meme culture. 2016-2021 was when anime caught on fire in my eyes. It helped that AOT was a huge series during that time and it was more "mature" which killed off the "anime is for kids" stigma for a lot of people. Pokemon Go's explosion by getting people to be active probably also helped the anime space.
 
RandomGuy2345 said:
Don't get me wrong, I unironically love 4Kids, but I can acknowledge from an objective standpoint that they weren't good for the most part.
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I think that some shows, like Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon, which are already pretty toned-down and cartoony, were massively improved in terms of possible audience perception, despite 4Kids being afraid of violence and... rice? Honestly, what is more American than taking a man named ******* KATSUYA and going "Oh yeeeah, dat's Joey Wheeler from Brooklyn."?(Now read that in the voice of Meowth)

I will say, the fact that they changed Yugi's last name to Moto instead of Muto sent me into a CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS a while back.
 
SlendVeny said:
I think that some shows, like Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon, which are already pretty toned-down and cartoony, were massively improved in terms of possible audience perception, despite 4Kids being afraid of violence and... rice? Honestly, what is more American than taking a man named ******* KATSUYA and going "Oh yeeeah, dat's Joey Wheeler from Brooklyn."

I will say, the fact that they changed Yugi's last name to Moto instead of Muto sent me into a CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS a while back.
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Sidenote: How do the Millenium Transformations work? I understand the possession thing, but the transformation itself is odd.

Is it like Kurama? Does Yami Yugi burst out from under Yugi's skin? Is Yami Yugi like his DBZ Broly Form? If so, why is there no sound? Is that why he screams the name of the show?

Is The Pharoah manipulating his flesh to take form in some horrific ghost ritual? It makes sense for a guy sealed in an ancient mystical hell labyrinth, and who also loves shattering people's brains.

Could it be like Diavolo? Is it a bizzare(hehe) trick of the mind formed by twin souls in a single body? I should hate to think the Millenium Puzzle functions akin to Dio's Stone Mask, unlocking an impossible part of the brain, so it's unlikely.

Does The Pharoah age Yugi to get stronger? Is his form that of an aged Yugi? Possibly! Yugi does physically go from Deku to Goku when he ages, down to the dead grandpa.

Now, you may ask, wait, they look similar enough, what if they just swap? That's the good explanation, but it's wrong. Yami Yugi is the Pharoah possessing Yugi, meaning at one point in the series he was PILOTING YUGI'S LITERAL SOULLESS CORPSE.

Now, Yugi is a reincarnation of The Pharoah, or Atem. That is why they both have protagonist hair. Now, I have an idea. Atem's spirit seems to have changed when attuned to Yugi's body, looking like an older Yugi, at the age Atem was sealed, even in his internal spirit form. Perhaps Yugi's body goes through a similar process when they link?

How, pray tell, do I know that Yugi looks so much different from Atem himself, who was also shown on screen? BECAUSE ONE OF THEM IS A TEENAGER FROM JAPAN, AND ONE OF THEM IS THE ******* DIVINELY ORDAINED NATIVE KING OF EGYPT.
 
SlendVeny said:
Sidenote: How do the Millenium Transformations work? I understand the possession thing, but the transformation itself is odd.

Is it like Kurama? Does Yami Yugi burst out from under Yugi's skin? Is Yami Yugi like his DBZ Broly Form? If so, why is there no sound? Is that why he screams the name of the show?

Is The Pharoah manipulating his flesh to take form in some horrific ghost ritual? It makes sense for a guy sealed in an ancient mystical hell labyrinth, and who also loves shattering people's brains.

Could it be like Diavolo? Is it a bizzare(hehe) trick of the mind formed by twin souls in a single body? I should hate to think the Millenium Puzzle functions akin to Dio's Stone Mask, unlocking an impossible part of the brain, so it's unlikely.

Does The Pharoah age Yugi to get stronger? Is his form that of an aged Yugi? Possibly! Yugi does physically go from Deku to Goku when he ages, down to the dead grandpa.

Now, you may ask, wait, they look similar enough, what if they just swap? That's the good explanation, but it's wrong. Yami Yugi is the Pharoah possessing Yugi, meaning at one point in the series he was PILOTING YUGI'S LITERAL SOULLESS CORPSE.

Now, Yugi is a reincarnation of The Pharoah, or Atem. That is why they both have protagonist hair. Now, I have an idea. Atem's spirit seems to have changed when attuned to Yugi's body, looking like an older Yugi, at the age Atem was sealed, even in his internal spirit form. Perhaps Yugi's body goes through a similar process when they link?

How, pray tell, do I know that Yugi looks so much different from Atem himself, who was also shown on screen? BECAUSE ONE OF THEM IS A TEENAGER FROM JAPAN, AND ONE OF THEM IS THE ******* DIVINELY ORDAINED NATIVE KING OF EGYPT.
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hawk tuah
 
Imaginym said:
I will say this:

In VSBW, I advocate for more accuracy is better.

But for anime, I often don't care for that tenet.
Anyone who knows the hilarity of the dubs for Yu-Gi-Oh!, the old Pokemon anime & Digimon anime, or Ghost Stories, among other things, as shown by various Youtube videos, probably knows that I mean.

I would genuinely welcome more "gag dubs".
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I'm more mixed on that regard. On one hand, in LatAm, until the 2000s we got the anime series straight from Japan, with little censorship, faithful dialogue, the soundtrack retained and all (this included series like Digimon, Card Captor Sakura, Shaman King 2001, and more, all of which became beloved classics here), so when 4Kids dubs arrived they felt pretty jarring, with all the changes from script rewrittes, new music and cut content (not to mention that the kind of humor those dubs had such as emphasis on humor, lots of puns, witty dialogue, heavy lampshading, snarky personalities by default, work well in english but when translated to spanish they come as awkward). It wasn't an issue with Pokemon, given the first seasons were already lighthearted and pretty wacky by themselves, so the changes were barely felt. But it really became noticeable with Yu-Gi-Oh and beyond, moment in which a lot of the stuff you found on tv were dubs of the 4Kids dub.

On the other hand... hadn't it been for 4Kids or other USA dub companies, we just wouldn't have found out of a lot of the stuff that eventually arrived during those years, especially series with sillier premises that were still pretty fun to go through, such Yu-Gi-Oh, Beyblade or whatnot. Then you appreciate some of the stuff they did, like some script changes that were genuinely good.

For instance, in Yu-gi-oh, for example, the death of Pegasus's wife Cecilia and that being his motivation is foreshadowed more in the dub than in the Japanese version, and changed his exact motivation from recreation her with Kaiba Corp's VR technology (which makes sense in the manga, but is odd in the anime where he already has poweful VR technology with the anime-only duel arenas) to gathering the Millenium Items to open a gate to the otherworld and revive Cecilia (which is halfway true, gathering the items did open a gate to another world, the dark world from where Zork Necrophades came through).

And even some of the criticized stuff could be forgiven to an extent, like the weird voice acting being more due to weird direction choices and the actors being legitimately talented people, or the soundtracks not being bad, simply feeling odd as the more subtle or upbeat scores of the dubs that would fit an action packed american cartoon just felt at odds with a melodramatic or over the top anime.

And of course the plethora of memes those dubs gave us.

EDIT: You guys shouls check JaJa's Kooky Quest.
 
DivineAura44 said:
I personally believe that anime got its popularity off of meme culture. 2016-2021 was when anime caught on fire in my eyes. It helped that AOT was a huge series during that time and it was more "mature" which killed off the "anime is for kids" stigma for a lot of people. Pokemon Go's explosion by getting people to be active probably also helped the anime space.
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The heck are you talking about. Anime was already very popular in the late 90s and early 2000's thanks to Toonami. Even in the 80's it was somewhat popular.
 
SlendVeny said:
I think that some shows, like Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon, which are already pretty toned-down and cartoony, were massively improved in terms of possible audience perception, despite 4Kids being afraid of violence and... rice? Honestly, what is more American than taking a man named ******* KATSUYA and going "Oh yeeeah, dat's Joey Wheeler from Brooklyn."?(Now read that in the voice of Meowth)
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Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon were definitely the exception.

Can we also talk about how The Shadow Realm is one of the coolest concepts?
 
BrackishBrineBroth said:
The heck are you talking about. Anime was already very popular in the late 90s and early 2000's thanks to Toonami. Even in the 80's it was somewhat popular.
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You literally got bullied for admitting to liking anime in the 2000s 🤣🤣🤣 (overexaggeration but you were certainly the "weird kid.")
Anime became "mainstream" in the late 2010s lil bro
 
BrackishBrineBroth said:
The heck are you talking about. Anime was already very popular in the late 90s and early 2000's thanks to Toonami. Even in the 80's it was somewhat popular.
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I wouldn't go as far to say "very popular" but that was around the time anime started making some noise, but the media as a whole was still a mostly niche thing, and the only anime that were acceptable to talk about were Yu-Gi-Oh, Pokemon, and Dragon Ball for the most part.

Cartoons were still dominant in the west.
 
RandomGuy2345 said:
I wouldn't go as far to say "very popular" but that was around the time anime started making some noise, but the media as a whole was still a mostly niche thing, and the only anime that were acceptable to talk about were Yu-Gi-Oh, Pokemon, and Dragon Ball for the most part.

Cartoons were still dominant in the west.
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"Y'all watched that new Yu Yu Hakusho? 🤓"
"Stfu"
 
DivineAura44 said:
You literally got bullied for admitting to liking anime in the 2000s 🤣🤣🤣 (overexaggeration but you were certainly the "weird kid.")
Anime became "mainstream" in the late 2010s lil bro
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Nah it wasn't an exaggeration people legit got bullied for liking anime in the same way boys got bullied for liking s*it like Winx Club or My Little Pony
 
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