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Unpopular Opinions and (Friendly) Rant thread

Woomica said:
and its all because R>F turned from being one dimension higher into magically turning into OP 1-A qualitatively superior being despite half of R>F just either presenting higher dimensionality or just plain poop stuff
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Welcome back "This character is stated to transcend time and space so they're 1-A"
 
RandomGuy2345 said:
There's absolutely nothing wrong with thinking it's weird. You have every right to think that way.

However, I think it's wrong to call it p*dophilia considering they're fictional characters who don't have rights, can't consent, and their age is arbitrary.

Do you know how much hentai has been made where the setting is in high school?

Hell, do you know how much corn has been made of fictional teenagers?
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Ok true, they aren't real people but the stories you consume are usually intended to feel real. That's why you laugh when something's funny and cry when something's sad.

It's like if a show had fictional babies get decapped in what's intended to be a funny/lighthearted scene. If that's your humor then cool but you would admit it's very creepy and disturbing, right? I know the example is chose is more extreme but that's literally the only difference in the scenarios.


A grotesque thing is happening on screen and we call that sh*t "fan-service"? Wtf is wrong with people? I'm not saying I'd immediately stop watching a show if one of said scenes happened (I'd be a liar) but it's disgusting to happen on such a frequent basis. It's currently anime's biggest flaw in my opinion.
 
DaMonkeMan said:
That's true. I'm not saying it was inspired by Bleach, it could very well be a coincidence (like Bleach being similar to Yu Yu Hakusho at it's start, this kind of stuff just happens because the yokai/spirit stuff is quite popular in Japan, so stories about it will pop up very often and sometimes those stories will look very similar), but I also wouldn't be surprised if it was actually inspired by it. Plus some people compare Gojo to the hat and clogs guy, forgot his name but you know who I mean.
Though I'm not sure if that's an accurate comparison because I haven't seen a lot of JJK yet, but it could be true.
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I agree. And to be fair JJK getting inspiration from Bleach and other works is pretty likely. I mean, what I was trying to say is that authors taking elements from other works is pretty much inevitable, even if they don't realize it. No matter how fresh or original a story is, eagle eyed enough audiences will likely track its tropes back to something else (and if something is truly original, expect it to be copied to the point it becomes a cliché altogether). What I am trying to say is, while rip-offs do exist for sure, many times it's just a case of an author using common or widespread storybeats, we just happen to know them from a specific work which we'll assume is the original.
Rakih_Elyan said:
Read Kagurabachi you plebs.
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You know, I've been considering this seriously for a while. Is it good?
 
DivineAura44 said:
Ok true, they aren't real people but the stories you consume are usually intended to feel real. That's why you laugh when something's funny and cry when something's sad.

It's like if a show had fictional babies get decapped in what's intended to be a funny/lighthearted scene. If that's your humor then cool but you would admit it's very creepy and disturbing, right? I know the example is chose is more extreme but that's literally the only difference in the scenarios.


A grotesque thing is happening on screen and we call that sh*t "fan-service"? Wtf is wrong with people? I'm not saying I'd immediately stop watching a show if one of said scenes happened (I'd be a liar) but it's disgusting to happen on such a frequent basis. It's currently anime's biggest flaw in my opinion.
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Family Guy has far more grotesque and inappropriate scenes than a good portion of anime, but most people think the show is peak.

Also wdym by "grotesque thing is happening on screen"?
 
RandomGuy2345 said:
Family Guy has far more grotesque and inappropriate scenes than a good portion of anime, but most people think the show is peak.

Also wdym by "grotesque thing is happening on screen"?
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This argument doesn't work because it just means Family Guy is also at fault. Also FG is trash. I'll ignore this though.

The real issue happens to be that this is a false equivalence. Family Guy (when the writers feel like writing quality) isn't just "hey look a dead guy with his eyes hanging out of his head" the same way these chest shots are "hey look at these girls' breasts."
Family Guy has humor ABOUT the dead guy who died brutally. Anime will have these disgusting shots because they know that some people get dopamine shots from looking at the chest of young girls.
The only real problem is sometimes Family Guy is as simple as "hey look at this guy with his jaw torn off" which is why I don't like Family Guy. South Park is way better for this argument.


The "grotesque" shots I refer to are the girls being shown in revealing ways.
 
Arceus0x said:
Bruuuh y'all gotta explain yourselves. Why the heck is it mid??
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To avoid making this too long, past season 2 not only are the villains and antags absolutely boring, but Dexter isn't allowed to ever develop as a character as he's constantly saved by Deus Ex Machina.
 
DivineAura44 said:
This argument doesn't work because it just means Family Guy is also at fault. Also FG is trash. I'll ignore this though.

The real issue happens to be that this is a false equivalence. Family Guy (when the writers feel like writing quality) isn't just "hey look a dead guy with his eyes hanging out of his head" the same way these chest shots are "hey look at these girls' breasts."
Family Guy has humor ABOUT the dead guy who died brutally. Anime will have these disgusting shots because they know that some people get dopamine shots from looking at the chest of young girls.
The only real problem is sometimes Family Guy is as simple as "hey look at this guy with his jaw torn off" which is why I don't like Family Guy. South Park is way better for this argument.


The "grotesque" shots I refer to are the girls being shown in revealing ways.
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Well... at the risk of coming as a sanctonimous piece of fudge

I don't think explotation is an anime only thing, there's plethora of adult american shows that rely on being as gross and shocking as possible not only with violence and gore, but also sex, in that regard Family Guy is not an outlier (and even then, its humor managed to be edgy in earlier seasons without being as gross as it bacame later on, so I don't think it being a joke or played for laughs makes it any more valid to rely on explotation of any kind if that in itself is questionable). Think also comic books and films, where they can also include some pretty nasty stuff just for the sake of it, like any slasher series where the drawing point is to see how messily and gorily the murderer will kill everyone (who a lot of the times people randomly having sex and partying). And even for kids in the 90s and 2000s there were plenty of stuff that relied entirely on toilet humor. And "erotic" content was also quite common in europe until regulations came in.

What I am trying to say is that, disgusting crap has always been a thing and has been around everywhere. I think anime gets a worse rap because it's one of the more mainstream media around (and, let's not kid ourselves, exploitative, fanservice heavy works do get a lot of attention from audiences), cultural differences being at play over what can be portrayed in media between countries, and sex in general being a very taboo subject (I mean, when something of the sort slips into mainstream western media, expect a massive meltdown in social sites).

Now, I do agree that anime has a lot of stuff that ranges from questionable to ourtight wtf worthy. And it's fully understandable if it creeps or grosses you out to the point you drop the show. But I think the point that's being made, is that regardless of how messed up a work is, it shouldn't be compared to the abuse and explotation of real people, where actual individuals are hurt and traumatized.
 
Family Guy is actual slop nowadays lmao
Like it's so bad
I prefer American Dad anyway. That show is peak.
 
TartaChocholate said:
Well... at the risk of coming as a sanctonimous piece of fudge

I don't think explotation is an anime only thing, there's plethora of adult american shows that rely on being as gross and shocking as possible not only with violence and gore, but also sex, in that regard Family Guy is not an outlier (and even then, its humor managed to be edgy in earlier seasons without being as gross as it bacame later on, so I don't think it being a joke or played for laughs makes it any more valid to rely on explotation of any kind if that in itself is questionable). Think also comic books and films, where they can also include some pretty nasty stuff just for the sake of it, like any slasher series where the drawing point is to see how messily and gorily the murderer will kill everyone (who a lot of the times people randomly having sex and partying). And even for kids in the 90s and 2000s there were plenty of stuff that relied entirely on toilet humor. And "erotic" content was also quite common in europe until regulations came in.

What I am trying to say is that, disgusting crap has always been a thing and has been around everywhere. I think anime gets a worse rap because it's one of the more mainstream media around (and, let's not kid ourselves, exploitative, fanservice heavy works do get a lot of attention from audiences), cultural differences being at play over what can be portrayed in media between countries, and sex in general being a very taboo subject (I mean, when something of the sort slips into mainstream western media, expect a massive meltdown in social sites).

Now, I do agree that anime has a lot of stuff that ranges from questionable to ourtight wtf worthy. And it's fully understandable if it creeps or grosses you out to the point you drop the show. But I think the point that's being made, is that regardless of how messed up a work is, it shouldn't be compared to the abuse and explotation of real people, where actual individuals are hurt and traumatized.
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1. I don't think I implied this was an anime only thing but if I did, I'm sorry.
2. Anime is the worst offender of doing this with characters who are simply put, underaged or are intentionally drawn to appear as such.
3. The horror style gore murders aren't as bad because once again, we aren't intended to look at said things and have a positive reaction. When these shows have shots of girls in compromising positions, it's done with the intention of pleasing viewers who like to see it.
 
DaMonkeMan said:
Nah dawg it's funny as shit
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DivineAura44 said:
This argument doesn't work because it just means Family Guy is also at fault. Also FG is trash. I'll ignore this though.

The real issue happens to be that this is a false equivalence. Family Guy (when the writers feel like writing quality) isn't just "hey look a dead guy with his eyes hanging out of his head" the same way these chest shots are "hey look at these girls' breasts."
Family Guy has humor ABOUT the dead guy who died brutally. Anime will have these disgusting shots because they know that some people get dopamine shots from looking at the chest of young girls.
The only real problem is sometimes Family Guy is as simple as "hey look at this guy with his jaw torn off" which is why I don't like Family Guy. South Park is way better for this argument.


The "grotesque" shots I refer to are the girls being shown in revealing ways.
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My point isn't about which show has more grotesque scenes, my point is that FG has just as much, if not more grotesque scenes than a good portion of anime, yet people don't get riled up about it nearly as much as they do with anime.

Like Quagmire is deadass a p*dophilic r*pist, and there's plenty of jokes made throughout the series of how disgusting he is, but people would much rather complain about a 15-18 year old anime chick showing breasts.

My general point is also that we can't be making Diddy jokes but then call people p*dos for liking fictional anime chicks that don't have rights and can't consent (because they're not real). Again, if that makes you uncomfortable, then you have every right to feel that way, but let's not throw around terms that are very harmful to someone.
 
Shmooply said:
To avoid making this too long, past season 2 not only are the villains and antags absolutely boring, but Dexter isn't allowed to ever develop as a character as he's constantly saved by Deus Ex Machina.
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imma be real with you I was tryna bait robo into ranting and it didn't work. I've never even heard of the show, didn't even bother to google it.
 
We also have to consider the target audience as well.

The average anime is usually aimed towards pre-teen/teenage boys. Hormones are at an all-time high around this age, so it's no surprise that a lot of anime has fan service because boys (and to a somewhat lesser extent, girls) like that stuff.
 
Arceus0x said:
imma be real with you I was tryna bait robo into ranting and it didn't work. I've never even heard of the show, didn't even bother to google it.
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He said he just started season 2 at least wait for him to see what happens in episode 12 😭
 
Robo432343 said:
anime sucks now
1990-2000's was the golden age for anime
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Thing is that anime is what most people watch because cartoons (and really western animation in general) suck so much ass, and whenever there is a cartoon that doesn't make you question your existence, people glaze it like it's the second coming when it's really like a 6/10 at best
 
RandomGuy2345 said:
Thing is that anime is what most people watch because cartoons (and really western animation in general) suck so much ass, and whenever there is a cartoon that doesn't make you question your existence, people glaze it like it's the second coming when it's really like a 6/10 at best
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Speaking of this...

The cartoon community were FAR too harsh on some of the shows that aired during that mid 2000s and early 2010s era
 
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