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Spamton=Sans>JevilSans > Jevil + Spamton NEO
Jevil wasn't really that hard for me ngl, normal rute Spamton NEO took me a while...In terms of difficulty, I'd say Sans > Spamton NEO (Snowgrave Route) > Jevil >>> Spamton NEO (Normal Route)
Yeah, I beat Jevil like on the fifth-attempt on Switch, Normal Spamton didn't even manage to K.O. anyone when I fought him tho (Probably cause I did Snowgrave first)Jevil wasn't really that hard for me ngl, normal rute Spamton NEO took me a while...
I can't really bring myself to do Snowgrave, it just feels wrong on all levels.Yeah, I beat Jevil like on the fifth-attempt on Switch, Normal Spamton didn't even manage to K.O. anyone when I fought him tho (Probably cause I did Snowgrave first)
I did that shit as soon as I could, **** them birds I have to do my funny video game boss fights.I can't really bring myself to do Snowgrave, it just feels wrong on all levels.
If we were fighting Jevil alone, it would be harder than Sans.Sans > Jevil + Spamton NEO
Probably. Jevil's AoE Damage is what usually kills me thoIf we were fighting Jevil alone, it would be harder than Sans.
By the way, Toby tweet
For me:In terms of difficulty, I'd say Sans > Spamton NEO (Snowgrave Route) > Jevil >>> Spamton NEO (Normal Route)
By the way, Toby tweet
Anyway, I was reading Noelle's blogposts and this one in particular is really weird
All of the characters just seem so OOC and Susie's bullying is like 20 times worse.
I found this Reddit post that goes in-depth about it
You can read the post on its entirety (though the OP is a bit rebudant and fixates on some irrelevant stuff) but the theory here is that the reality where the blog post comes from is an alternate reality that we can get a glimpse of when we use the Glass (Shadow Crystal in the Dark World) in the Light World
Kris sees through the glass a version of Susie that glares at him coldly with contempt but when they move the glass away they see Susie being friendly.
- You looked through the glass.
- For some strange reason, for just a brief moment... [First use]
- You thought you saw through your hand. [Alone]
- You thought you saw Susie glaring at you, coldly... [Followed by Susie]
- But when you moved the glass away,
- You see her looking at you, smiling and making a rude gesture.
Which makes sense considering that the Susie from Noelle's blogpost genuinely hates Kris.
BasedFor me:
Difficulty-Sans>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.>Spamton NEO (Snowgrave)>>>Jevil>Spamton Neo (Normal).
Sans was WAAAY harder for me than most people I'm ngl. I am not joking, Sans killed me over 250 times, it took me a week, fighting him like it was a part-time job, until I got my first win. Then out of spite I got so good at his fight I could almost no hit him and beat him 50 times until I got tired.
In terms of how much I like the characters:
Jevil is cool and I like his gimmicks a lot, and The World Revolving just slaps (though not nearly as good as BIG SHOT imo and can't even be reasonably compared to Megalovania), but he's still a rather empty character in terms of motivations, backstory, etc., and has very little compelling or emotional aspects unlike Spamton and Sans. He's just fun, plain and simple, which, admittedly, fits his character pretty well. But definitely the last of the 3 in question.
Spamton is a huge step above Jevil. Being a "secret" boss but still at least appearing in the main story and being easy to find, it's less a matter of finding out he exists and more a matter of taking the time and effort to reach his boss fight, which I like as it's unique from Toby's other secret bosses in general. He's a somewhat compelling and emotionally driven character, but not so relatable and sympathetic that I just go "I love you Toby but we've done this a lot already in Undertale", he's in a really grey area in terms of his morality, which is welcomed, as most of Toby's characters are either on one side, or at least, not AS close to the center as Spamton is. Moving on from that, Spamton can be pretty funny, especially with his dialogue, but I think a lot of people undersell the somewhat disturbing moments he does have, even if brief. In particular, the lines about him saying "IT BURNS" and literally begging for help actually made me feel for the guy, wondering what he might REALLY be going for under the surface, and people have talked about "Mike" so much already. His obvious connections to Gaster and whoever Gaster might also be (possibly the Knight but I think it's too obvious, I would opt for the belief that Gaster has a relation to the Knight), but not so obvious that it becomes overbearing. I could go on, but Spamton is a great character, in fact he's my number 1 for Deltarune so far in general.
Sans. Do I even need to say anything? Lol I could legit make a 1,000 word essay on how great of a character Sans is. But I'd be beating a dead cow at this point with how popular Sans is. There's a REASON he's literally become more popular than Undertale/Deltarune as a whole. Granted I think he's a LITTLE overrated, but he is an amazing character nonetheless.
Anyway, I was reading Noelle's blogposts and this one in particular is really weird
All of the characters just seem so OOC and Susie's bullying is like 20 times worse.
I found this Reddit post that goes in-depth about it
You can read the post on its entirety (though the OP is a bit rebudant and fixates on some irrelevant stuff) but the theory here is that the reality where the blog post comes from is an alternate reality that we can get a glimpse of when we use the Glass (Shadow Crystal in the Dark World) in the Light World
Kris sees through the glass a version of Susie that glares at him coldly with contempt but when they move the glass away they see Susie being friendly.
- You looked through the glass.
- For some strange reason, for just a brief moment... [First use]
- You thought you saw through your hand. [Alone]
- You thought you saw Susie glaring at you, coldly... [Followed by Susie]
- But when you moved the glass away,
- You see her looking at you, smiling and making a rude gesture.
Which makes sense considering that the Susie from Noelle's blogpost genuinely hates Kris.
Anyway, I was reading Noelle's blogposts and this one in particular is really weird
All of the characters just seem so OOC and Susie's bullying is like 20 times worse.
I found this Reddit post that goes in-depth about it
You can read the post on its entirety (though the OP is a bit rebudant and fixates on some irrelevant stuff) but the theory here is that the reality where the blog post comes from is an alternate reality that we can get a glimpse of when we use the Glass (Shadow Crystal in the Dark World) in the Light World
Kris sees through the glass a version of Susie that glares at him coldly with contempt but when they move the glass away they see Susie being friendly.
- You looked through the glass.
- For some strange reason, for just a brief moment... [First use]
- You thought you saw through your hand. [Alone]
- You thought you saw Susie glaring at you, coldly... [Followed by Susie]
- But when you moved the glass away,
- You see her looking at you, smiling and making a rude gesture.
Which makes sense considering that the Susie from Noelle's blogpost genuinely hates Kris.
Lol**** it, I'm gonna do a funny and waste the question. There is literally a negative percent chance he will "answer" this, but I'm hoping he'll somehow see it just cause. God I'm unoriginal.
Looked into it. Yeah, even on Spotify, the Deltarune soundtrack is owned by Royal Sciences. It's consistent. And obviously there is absolutely no question this relates to Gaster. Of the countless names Toby could have made, with the only royal scientist besides Gaster being Alphys (a relatively minor member of Undertale's main cast who largely has little interest among the fanbase), there's literally zero chance it's a coincidence.And it's... really interesting, that Gaster canonically owns both Undertale and Deltarune
Royal Sciences, LLC Trademarks :: Justia Trademarks
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Gaster is gonna have a busted NEPLooked into it. Yeah, even on Spotify, the Deltarune soundtrack is owned by Royal Sciences. It's consistent. And obviously there is absolutely no question this relates to Gaster. Of the countless names Toby could have made, with the only royal scientist besides Gaster being Alphys (a relatively minor member of Undertale's main cast who largely has little interest among the fanbase), there's literally zero chance it's a coincidence.
Though it's not the most shocking thing, there are plenty of implications even besides this that Gaster canonically owns Deltarune as a video game in a fully literal sense, and has plenty of awareness of the real world, obviously the most notorious instance being when he pretty clearly talks to us on Twitter after "hacking" into the Undertale/Deltarune Twitter. Most evidence suggests Gaster is quite literally on the level of a game developer, if not writer, at least for Deltarune. I mean, he's literally the one that released it, and as everyone knows, the original Deltarune download explicitly has Gaster speaking to us and telling us it's more of a test/survey, which is further implied with chapter 2. And Gaster spoke on the Deltarune website way before chapter 1 was released, two times in fact. I remember MatPat even making a game theory claiming that Gaster is Toby Fox or something, which is definitely not true. But I digress.
In any case, there's no question that Gaster has a much larger degree of importance than what we know, and I expect him to have heavy 4th wall shenanigans, when the time comes. Hopefully he gets good feats out of it as well, for an actual appropriate Gaster page to be made.
Also, I have absolute, supreme confidence that the experiment in Entry Number Seventeen is Deltarune. It just fits too well.
Yeah but sadly not the conceptual kind.Gaster is gonna have a busted NEP
Gaster is a bit of too much ARGLooked into it. Yeah, even on Spotify, the Deltarune soundtrack is owned by Royal Sciences. It's consistent. And obviously there is absolutely no question this relates to Gaster. Of the countless names Toby could have made, with the only royal scientist besides Gaster being Alphys (a relatively minor member of Undertale's main cast who largely has little interest among the fanbase), there's literally zero chance it's a coincidence.
Though it's not the most shocking thing, there are plenty of implications even besides this that Gaster canonically owns Deltarune as a video game in a fully literal sense, and has plenty of awareness of the real world, obviously the most notorious instance being when he pretty clearly talks to us on Twitter after "hacking" into the Undertale/Deltarune Twitter. Most evidence suggests Gaster is quite literally on the level of a game developer, if not writer, at least for Deltarune. I mean, he's literally the one that released it, and as everyone knows, the original Deltarune download explicitly has Gaster speaking to us and telling us it's more of a test/survey, which is further implied with chapter 2. And Gaster spoke on the Deltarune website way before chapter 1 was released, two times in fact. I remember MatPat even making a game theory claiming that Gaster is Toby Fox or something, which is definitely not true. But I digress.
In any case, there's no question that Gaster has a much larger degree of importance than what we know, and I expect him to have heavy 4th wall shenanigans, when the time comes. Hopefully he gets good feats out of it as well, for an actual appropriate Gaster page to be made.
Also, I have absolute, supreme confidence that the experiment in Entry Number Seventeen is Deltarune. It just fits too well.
Its rude to talk about people that are listeningGaster is a bit of too much ARG
Ya know, sometimes someone says that "isn't in game - not canon", but it doesn't work when you come in contact with ARG stuff.
Deltarune heart is a connection between our world and Deltarune's world, also I need to say that Deltarune's terms of agreements is
"YOU ACCEPT EVERYTHING THAT WILL HAPPEN FROM NOW ON"
The fatal mistake others make happens when they consider Gaster as a game-bounded character, who is bounded by the game and game's logic, but...
He's above and both outside.
I know, srry, but I just had to say that:skull:Its rude to talk about people that are listening
Are you so sure about it?Gaster has done nothing except speak
YesAre you so sure about it?