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Kaguya's regeneration isn't stopping Law. She has a very situational regen that isn't activating in this fight
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Bro, Sasuke couldn't move.Paralysis can be negated by willpower as shown by Itachi and Obito. Law negs this.
How?Law negs this his Devil Fruit.
Her immortality is based on her regen, which is negged by Law FRA.
This here is a problem. Because Haki doesn't negate all devil fruit abilities in OP. So how do you scale it negging Kaguya's abilities?Negged by Haki.
Please explainKaguya's regeneration isn't stopping Law. She has a very situational regen that isn't activating in this fight
Just tag godernet and he'll better explain the argumentsKaguya's regeneration isn't stopping Law. She has a very situational regen that isn't activating in this fight
Sasuke isn't Itachi or Law.Bro, Sasuke couldn't move.
Read his profile.How?
Haki negates spatial manipulation. Read the Haki page.This here is a problem. Because Haki doesn't negate all devil fruit abilities in OP. So how do you scale it negging Kaguya's abilities?
I just talked to him offsite because of it and explained the actual origins to her regenJust tag godernet and he'll better explain the argumentsor you could read this and the page before
Kaguya doesn't have traditional regen.Please explain
Your argument has a generalization problem,Sasuke isn't Itachi or Law.
Read his profile.
Haki negates spatial manipulation. Read the Haki page.
This just means that her paralyzation is layered.Neither Itachi nor Law faced Kaguya's paralysis. Sasuke has bust out of Danzou's paralysis so even he has feats against paralysis, yet he was locked.
Notice how this is a general Haki ability listed on the Haki page and not specifically for Big Mom and Kaidou.
Kaguya does have a traditional regen similar to other Juubi Jins. In fact, scales higher.I just talked to him offsite because of it and explained the actual origins to her regen
Kaguya doesn't have traditional regen.
She regenerates from her huge truthseeking ball created from her huge rabbit form.
The rabbit form is made when Naruto makes her body unstable from the bijuu chakra he attacks her with. Law has no such thing.
And in order for that ETSO to happen, she needs to have the infinite tsukuyomi activated, which will draw the chakra she requires to make it
Many situations in the thread that won't happen
"She regens from her ETSO destroying her body and the dimension" she resists her ETSO. Makes no sense for her to regen from something she resists.
Also, she isn't regenerating from Law's slashes. They don't deal damage, you can't regen from something that doesn't deal damage unless your regen is special body control that brings your limbs back together like Meliodas
Where is Law's layered resistance to paralysis?This just means that her paralyzation is layered.
So is Law's resistance, but to a greater degree.
Notice how this is a general Haki ability listed on the Haki page and not specifically for Big Mom and Kaidou.
Where is Law's layered resistance to paralysis?
Haki is willpower-based.Paralysis can be negated by willpower as shown by Itachi and Obito.
Anyone with relative or stronger Haki than law can resist it as shown here with Hawkins.Are you telling me that everyone with haki can resist Law's spatial ability?
I mean, we've already seen TSBs affecting their users when users lose control for a while, it was like that with Juubito and Kaguya:I just talked to him offsite because of it and explained the actual origins to her regen
Kaguya doesn't have traditional regen.
She regenerates from her huge truthseeking ball created from her huge rabbit form.
The rabbit form is made when Naruto makes her body unstable from the bijuu chakra he attacks her with. Law has no such thing.
And in order for that ETSO to happen, she needs to have the infinite tsukuyomi activated, which will draw the chakra she requires to make it
Many situations in the thread that won't happen
"She regens from her ETSO destroying her body and the dimension" she resists her ETSO. Makes no sense for her to regen from something she resists.
Also, she isn't regenerating from Law's slashes. They don't deal damage, you can't regen from something that doesn't deal damage unless your regen is special body control that brings your limbs back together like Meliodas
NoKaguya doesn't have traditional regen.
no, she's transforming her body to her original form after turning into the rabbit form, your assuming theres a correlation between the regeneration and her TSB because after this scene her hands are back, this is a prime example of the Casual Fallacy. theres no suggestion in the databooks nor in the text that her regeneration is tied to her rabbit form or her TSB, this also ignoring the very real logistical issues to your interpretation if her immortality and regeneration was tied to a situational offensive attack.She regenerates from her huge truthseeking ball created from her huge rabbit form.
The Ten tails gives people inherent regeneration, yet the person who is the progenitor of all this and has the ten tails herself requires an overtly specific external group of people that have never existed until this specific instance in history so that she could create a very specific offensive jutsu to give her regeneration.And in order for that ETSO to happen, she needs to have the infinite tsukuyomi activated, which will draw the chakra she requires to make it
Many situations in the thread that won't happen
NO??? this is nonsense"
Also, she isn't regenerating from Law's slashes. They don't deal damage, you can't regen from something that doesn't deal damage unless your regen is special body control that brings your limbs back together like Meliodas
She has inferior feats, getting limbs chopped off and cuts in her body with no healing of that. She has no regen from thatKaguya does have a traditional regen similar to other Juubi Jins. In fact, scales higher.
To say it's situational would require a direct statement from the manga of which there is none. Even her Rabbit Bijuu Form is implied by Black Zetsu that Kaguya can change to that form at will.
She does not regen from her truth seeker ball. The only thing you can conclude is that her normal regen needs to be activated and it takes time.
They resist the dust and EE aspect of it. You can get hurt by the force of a TSB, but they resist the hax of itThe TSB expansion/explosion is not something that can be resisted. Even Juubito had to block the explosion, and at one point got damaged even with his TSB resistance.
Kakuzu has a specific ability with the sole intention of reattaching limbs. Tsunade got cut in half and couldn't regen. Kaguya got her arm chopped off and didn't reattach it.Laws slashes don't deal damage, that is correct. I can see how Kaguya's high regen would not kick in. However, to say Kaguya cannot reattach a severed limb is laughable given characters with lesser healing abilities have done so, and never even did with a particular jutsu - see Kakuzu and Hidan.
Limbs disconnected from the rest of the Keirakukei, specific parts won't be able to use chakraNow let's say Kaguya can't regen. How does that stop her from using her other abilities even in her severed state?
If they have better Haki than Law, yes, that's what we accept currentlyAre you telling me that everyone with haki can resist Law's spatial ability?
So... instead of it being "she regenerates from TSB"... it's "she regenerates from rabbit form"no, she's transforming her body to her original form after turning into the rabbit form, your assuming theres a correlation between the regeneration and her TSB because after this scene her hands are back, this is a prime example of the Casual Fallacy. theres no suggestion in the databooks nor in the text that her regeneration is tied to her rabbit form or her TSB, this also ignoring the very real logistical issues to your interpretation if her immortality and regeneration was tied to a situational offensive attack.
Juubi Madara got cut in half and regrew his entire bottom half backThis is also ignoring the fact that there's no reason to assume Kaguya's regen would be inferior to people Juubi Madara or Juubito who are literally just using bootleg versions of her powers. the same madara that can fly and talk as a floating torso.
Yes, because we see her not able to regenThe Ten tails gives people inherent regeneration, yet the person who is the progenitor of all this and has the ten tails herself requires an overtly specific external group of people that have never existed until this specific instance in history so that she could create a very specific offensive jutsu to give her regeneration.
Bro whatNO??? this is nonsense
you realize that all this boils down to is semantics right, given that you can absolutely steelman this by going down a long rabbit hole of what defines damage and injury can be broken down in its basic elements to be nothing more than causation between events and the end result. its not worth dying on a hill for.
Show me where Law has used Haki to overcome paralysis. Your argument is like me saying all Naruto characters can resist Aizen's hypnosis.Haki is willpower-based.
That means Haki's resistance is situational. It's not hax-based, it's power based.Anyone with relative or stronger Haki than law can resist it as shown here with Hawkins.
Powerful devil fruit ability = devil fruit + powerful haki. No devil fruit just ignores haki unless it hits somewhere haki can't reachThat means Haki's resistance is situational. It's not hax-based, it's power based.
A powerful Devil Fruit ability can ignore a user's haki resistance.
means nothing at all, laws is more layeredBecause we can't assume that Devil Fruit Abilities > All Ninjutsu. Law's spatial bfr is way less powerful than Kaguya's who can use it on an inter-dimensional/inter planetary range.
Saying Law has no direct haki feats means you don't read one piece when this is the dude who reverted biological manipulation with straight hakiFor real, I don't think there's any ground to stand on haki resisting Kaguya's bfr. And it's even worse for Law who has no direct haki feats.
He would be if haki didn't exist, Law FRA also.The way you guys speak about Law makes it seems like he’s top 3 in verse
Law FRA
The healing is activated. We've seen from Juubidara that it is not passive regeneration. It is activated and it's not a quick process.She has inferior feats, getting limbs chopped off and cuts in her body with no healing of that. She has no regen from that
The force you are talking about is not what hurt Juubito. Because, if it were just force alone then a multi-city block-size explosion would not scratch a juubi-tier character.They resist the dust and EE aspect of it. You can get hurt by the force of a TSB, but they resist the hax of it
And Hidan? What Jutsu does he have besides his immortality?Kakuzu has a specific ability with the sole intention of reattaching limbs. Tsunade got cut in half and couldn't regen. Kaguya got her arm chopped off and didn't reattach it.
Limbs disconnected from the rest of the Keirakukei, specific parts won't be able to use chakra
We blatantly see it's passive when he passively grows back the damage from GuyThe healing is activated. We've seen from Juubidara that it is not passive regeneration. It is activated and it's not a quick process.
She never lost her physical form, ever.She has superior feats according to the databook, that explained she came back even after losing her physical form.
It wouldn't. AP ≠ DC thoughThe force you are talking about is not what hurt Juubito. Because, if it were just force alone then a multi-city block-size explosion would not scratch a juubi-tier character.
He doesn't come back together, Kakuzu puts him back togetherAnd Hidan? What Jutsu does he have besides his immortality?
Rubbish. Why didn't he immediately start growing back Limbs when Sasuke sliced him? Instead had a whole monologue of history with Obito in the kamui dimension.We blatantly see it's passive when he passively grows back the damage from Guy
Databook is secondary canon. It's accepted if there is nothing countering in the manga.She never lost her physical form, ever.
Databook doesn't have feats it has statements.
I can do this all day with Naruto feats. Madara re-attaching Zetsu's limbs?She doesn't scale to their regen. Their regen comes from Hashirama cells amplified by the ten tails' power, something she doesn't utilize.
It wouldn't. AP ≠ DC though
He doesn't come back together, Kakuzu puts him back together
Regrowing limbs is low-mid. Regrowing lower half of the body is mid. He gained mid when he got his other rinnegan back.Rubbish. Why didn't he immediately start growing back Limbs when Sasuke sliced him? Instead had a whole monologue of history with Obito in the kamui dimension.
Send me the scan where that is said. I don't take "databook says", I take "here is a scan of the databook saying".Databook is secondary canon. It's accepted if there is nothing countering in the manga.
You gon look dumb all dayI can do this all day with Naruto feats.
That isn't regen, that's literally combining a separate limb to you by force. That's body controlMadara re-attaching Zetsu's limbs?
WowAnd it's even worse for Law who has no direct haki feats.
no she isnt regenerating, she is transforming....So... instead of it being "she regenerates from TSB"... it's "she regenerates from rabbit form"
Madara was Bisected, he then BFR himself into another dimension and had entire conversation and monologue while as a floating torso, he then returns a while later fully regenerated.Juubi Madara got cut in half and regrew his entire bottom half back
Kakashi damages her torso and while she is still in free fall she gets sealed by the rest of team 7.Kaguya got her shoulder removed by Kakashi and couldn't do anything about it
But she does, your just prescribing her regeneration to something other than herself arbitrarilyYes, because we see her not able to regen
regeneration is the rebuilding of pre existing material as a response to the omission of them.Regeneration is the recreation of material, which makes re-generation.
this is irrelevant. what do you think happens when you scrape a piece of wood off a chair, you realize the matter isnt literally being destroyed, its being separated, the reason why we use terms like destroy or injury is from a pragmatic POV because we are talking about consequences to things and concepts in the here and now. teleporting someones heart across the world instantly without causing blood to spill is objectively moving one thing to another location, we would call it an injury because the consequences result in the the person as we know them being impaired. Now Law avoids this by ignoring the consequence which would normally be death, which is why it doesnt "injure" you but this doesn't account for the fact that there is omission of material, which will be regenerated if the character has that kind of control over their body, which kaguya does. she can literally transform her entire body, fuse with her environment and regenerate her missing arm which she was still actively connected to and could control.Law isn't cutting your limbs apart, he's spatially displacing them
Do you just not read One Piece?For real, I don't think there's any ground to stand on haki resisting Kaguya's bfr. And it's even worse for Law who has no direct haki feats.
And she transformed back to her base with her arm and a new zetsuno she isnt regenerating, she is transforming....
Okay? He still regrew the bottom halfMadara was Bisected, he then BFR himself into another dimension and had entire conversation and monologue while as a floating torso, he then returns a while later fully regenerated.
Okay now "nearly immediately" she had a whole fightKaguya has her hand chopped off and nearly immediately hit by Naruto's Bijuu chakra rasenshuriken
Slashes her shoulder down to her stomach, and while she is still in free fall she gets chased by Naruto clones, who she opens a portal to one and throws an ash bone at the other, then jumps upwards to dodge them, then getting punched down, where she gets her horn broken and sealedKakashi damages her torso and while she is still in free fall she gets sealed by the rest of team 7.
Give me feats of her regenerating like wtfnone of your examples are evidence of kaguya not being able to regenerate, given that the time between injuring and the following event is exponentially much quicker.
It implies the regeneration doesn't existall this implies is that the regeneration isnt instant
Then send me featsBut she does, your just prescribing her regeneration to something other than herself arbitrarily
You wording it differently doesn't get the point across differently.regeneration is the rebuilding of pre existing material as a response to the omission of them.
That's incrediblethis is irrelevant. what do you think happens when you scrape a piece of wood off a chair, you realize the matter isnt literally being destroyed, its being separated, the reason why we use terms like destroy or injury is from a pragmatic POV because we are talking about consequences to things and concepts in the here and now. teleporting someones heart across the world instantly without causing blood to spill is objectively moving one thing to another location, we would call it an injury because the consequences result in the the person as we know them being impaired. Now Law avoids this by ignoring the consequence which would normally be death, which is why it doesnt "injure" you but this doesn't account for the fact that there is omission of material, which will be regenerated if the character has that kind of control over their body, which kaguya does. she can literally transform her entire body, fuse with her environment and regenerate her missing arm which she was still actively connected to and could control.
First of all, that's a physical effect so that whole argument collapsed upon itself whenever we're dealing with non physical jazz. The wood is separated, not spatially displaced. Law's amputate does not cause damage in any way shape or form, this is shown and stated multiple times in the manga.this is irrelevant. what do you think happens when you scrape a piece of wood off a chair, you realize the matter isnt literally being destroyed, its being separated, the reason why we use terms like destroy or injury is from a pragmatic POV because we are talking about consequences to things and concepts in the here and now.
She did exactly that to Sasuke...Law will fight her in whatever dimension she wants. It's not like she leaves people there.
No she did not, she made a portal and yanked him to a different dimensionShe did exactly that to Sasuke...
yes because she can regenerate, theres no contradicting here, your just assuming arbitrary causation .And she transformed back to her base with her arm and a new zetsu
my point wasn't that he couldn't, that it doesnt take literal secondsOkay? He still regrew the bottom half
she didnt have a whole fightOkay now "nearly immediately" she had a whole fight
Slashes her shoulder down to her stomach, and while she is still in free fall she gets chased by Naruto clones, who she opens a portal to one and throws an ash bone at the other, then jumps upwards to dodge them, then getting punched down, where she gets her horn broken and sealed
her regenerating her Hand is regen feat, what are you smokingGive me feats of her regenerating like wtf
it doesIt implies the regeneration doesn't exist
Its in your own post, your just ignoring it because you think its the result of a giant offense energy attackThen send me feats
if you cant tell what the actual difference is then thats your issueYou wording it differently doesn't get the point across differently.
No its powerscaling brainrot for people who want to feel like their fictional character are specialThat's incredible
Spatial displacement ≠ traditional cutting. Simple
if regenerating a limb isnt regenerating then i guess the ocean isnt made out of water.And she can't regen for shit, so it doesn't matter