Top 20 strongest non smurfs

[Firephoenixearl]

Non Smurf List: Homecoming

Ok so rules are:

Restricted to only 3D characters

Every hax or attack has to be 3D or have a 3D effect.

Speed Equal
1. Methuselah

2. The Warpriest

3. Yhwach

4. The Operator with warframes

5. Nocturne

6. Darth Nihilus

7. Amane Shinomiya

8. Jessica Sorrow

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Speed Unequal
1. Methuselah

2. The Warpriest

3. Yhwach

4. Leo Regulus

5. Darth Nihilus

6. Nocturne

7. Warframes

8. Amane Shinomiya

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20.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Battle for 1st spot here: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3025805#2

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Anyway. I kicked Iihiko from the list.

Meth is now first. I put Warpriest above Yhwach.

The rest is the same.

 

[Paul_Frank]

7-A Goetia stomped Yhwach though

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Is goetia not a smurf?

Also

Waiting for The Operator vs Yhwach to finish so i can put the operator above yhwach

 

[Paul_Frank]

I mean he has immortality based on a temple that is beyond time and space idk if that's smurfy

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Yeah it is. Smurfy immortality.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Well beyond is the wrong word it's outside of time and space

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Still sounds smurfy. Am not sure what you mean by outside though.

 

[Paul_Frank]

The imaginary number space exists outside of the time axis and the universe

The temple is in the imaginary number space

 

[Firephoenixearl]

So like 4D?

 

[Paul_Frank]

Not sure

Being made of imaginary numbers made tiamat a 4d pocket with no mass and infinite volume so make of that what you will

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Sounds smurfy.

Time to make The Operator vs Goetia the

 

[Paul_Frank]

Based on the history of the warframe world wiping the Earth in the past should paradox the operator

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Based on the history of the warframe world wiping the Earth in the past should paradox the operator

Are the tenno even human? Don't remember. I mean was it ever stated they were Human

 

[Paul_Frank]

they weren't born on earth but AAS would paradox the orokin and thus the tenno it could also affect them since they kinda wake up on earth and that wouldn't be able to happe

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Want me to make the operator acausal for not causing paradoxses when going back in time to the orokin moon?

 

[Paul_Frank]

Those small rooms almost certainly don't affect the operator in a way that would paradox them besides Goetia's precog would let him find the operator anyway

 

[Firephoenixearl]

They would, as they are around the high security data. Even a small change there can bring about drastic changes yet absolutely nothing changed there, even if you trigger the alarms. Also how many times do i gotta say this, precog is not clairvoyance

For real though. Might as well make the match at this point.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Good thing Goetia has both

 

[Firephoenixearl]

You know i can argue they won't work right?

 

[Paul_Frank]

Nani explai

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Imma make the match. Nothing to lose.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Cease and desist

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Was there already a battle between the Warpriest and Methuselah?

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Doubt the warpriest can interact with Meth though. The biggest issue meth has is not his mind hax imo, it's his type 1 abstract existence.

 

[Wokistan]

Warpriest can't really interact with meth no. Meth should stay above.

 

[Dvorak1902]

Rimuru? Or was he a smurf too?

Magnus the Red?

Rumplestiltskin (OUAT)?

Lavos?

Golden King?

 

[TacticalNuke002]

The Fateless One is not a smurf. And Rohan should be able to take a spot somewhere lower down the list.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Momo Momozono

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Rimuru? Or was he a smurf too?
Magnus the Red?

Rumplestiltskin (OUAT)?

Lavos?

Golden King?

Rimuru is smurf IIRC.

Is magnus not a smurf? I have no idea how strong he is though.

Rmple yes. Where would he sit though. He does not resist sealing so i guess he would be around Misogi/Medaka.

Lavos has High 2-A absorption i think. Im pretty sure lavos is a smurf.

Golden King scopes from another universe or sth like that. That shouldn't count as a smurf typically i am not sure. He would likely be number one since no one here has multiversal range, but that feels a bit unfair. I'll let you guys decide on that.

@Tac

Yeah probably, put him up against Misogi though. And rohan would be pretty low, i know for a fact there are stronger people. So for now imma go for

@Paul

Nah too soon for her. She may take a spot, but there are stronger people to be added.

 

[GLHF22]

6A Rimuru is not a Smurfs

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Didn't he have smurf immortality?

 

[GLHF22]

Nope, even His High 4C form only have 1 smurf ability

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Where does he sit though?

 

[GLHF22]

IDK just make him fight Yhwach

 

[GLHF22]

He definitely below meth as he cannot affect AE type 1

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Kars dabs with speed and hax.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

He definitely below meth as he cannot affect AE type 1

Not that high lol.

He's below Darth Nihilus for sure.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Kars dabs with speed and hax.

No smurfs though.