Top 15 Strongest Characters for Every Tier

[Nicetoderp]

Beelzebub (Granblue Fantasy)

A Singularity just like Captain who possesses the power of Primal Beast, Astral Magic, and Chaos who is responsible for Lucifer's Death and the only known entity who managed to climb back up to Sky-realm from the Crimson Horizon. Obsessed with becoming the supreme being, he wields a substance...

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for low 1-C
has 7D hax with Avatar's power and can reborn himself into 7D if destroyed by a stronger power outright using the power that destroyed him to reborn himself
gains high godly regen and NEP type 2 this way
+ his go to move is Chaos Legion which is Erasure to Type 2 NEP that includes info, concept, history/causality

Is his Avatar power some sort of passive?

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Is his Avatar power some sort of passive?

Well, he possesses it but he has to use it. I don't remember him having a passive or anything
If he ever dies from anything he can use Chaos and the power surrounding him to be reborn into his last key

 

[AlphaOmegaV1]

Beelzebub (Granblue Fantasy)

A Singularity just like Captain who possesses the power of Primal Beast, Astral Magic, and Chaos who is responsible for Lucifer's Death and the only known entity who managed to climb back up to Sky-realm from the Crimson Horizon. Obsessed with becoming the supreme being, he wields a substance...

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When's my GBFVR main Belial/Avatar Belial's profile getting made? Damn Low 1-C is getting way too crowded

 

[Nicetoderp]

Well, he possesses it but he has to use it. I don't remember him having a passive or anything
If he ever dies from anything he can use Chaos and the power surrounding him to be reborn into his last key

If that's the case, Zi-O precog into seeing himself getting wreck by Chaos Belial. No worry, his precog work against Type 4 Acasual being. So Belial is getting hit by Zi-O plot hax into giving up the fight.

 

[XDragnoir]

Also kinda surprised Toaru isn't as broken as Honkai given that they are both 11-D smurfs.

There aren't nearly as many smurfs in Toaru as there are in Honkai + the smurf powers are always super specific instead of some passive I win button.

That's the main reason there aren't many Toaru characters around here.

 

[Eseseso]

There aren't nearly as many smurfs in Toaru as there are in Honkai + the smurf powers are always super specific instead of some passive I win button.

That's the main reason there aren't many Toaru characters around here.

I see.

Honestly reminds me of how I saw a scan flat out giving magic in Marvel 11D hax via M-Theory.

Had the potency of Marvel Magic been 11D and not Low 1-A that would've led to some...interesting matchups with other verses.

 

[Nicetoderp]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/white-woz-vs-altair-re-creators-4th-spot-of-the-strongest-7-c.168458/

4th spot of 7-C

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

If that's the case, Zi-O precog into seeing himself getting wreck by Chaos Belial. No worry, his precog work against Type 4 Acasual being. So Belial is getting hit by Zi-O plot hax into giving up the fight.

well I'm not really into arguing for a higher position
just a position that he should be for being a smurf with such.
idk about the whole precog thing but Granblue Causality and Fate works in mysterious ways.
anyone with irregular causality is rendered into a fixed destiny simply by being in the presence of the Sky God that it would take someone on a higher level than him to render it null. so the same way Beelzebub haxing Causality can also render plot hax null since Concept,Plot, info type 2 are now considered as equally possible

 

[Nicetoderp]

well I'm not really into arguing for a higher position
just a position that he should be for being a smurf with such.
idk about the whole precog thing but Granblue Causality and Fate works in mysterious ways.
anyone with irregular causality is rendered into a fixed destiny simply by being in the presence of the Sky God that it would take someone on a higher level than him to render it null. so the same way Beelzebub haxing Causality can also render plot hax null since Concept,Plot, info type 2 are now considered as equally possible

I see, I see.

Alright, if he were to prevent from resurrection/regen, would that stop him from becoming 1-C?

 

[Luckyfun]

Dark Samus for a 5B empty spot. Though I'm not sure how she beats the Batter.

Edit: actually she stomps batter horribly. So number 10 for now.

 

[CodeCCLL]

Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken characters in 6-A should be changed to Dino (Light Novel), Diablo (Light Novel) and Ruminas Valentine (Light Novel).

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

I see, I see.

Alright, if he were to prevent from resurrection/regen, would that stop him from becoming 1-C?

yes but suppressing him often doesn't work (people tried in-verse 3x and he always escaped and faster each time) because of his chaos that can adapt.
His avatar's power is like far stronger and enough to be 7D but falls short in terms of depth as void power comparison to Chaos (Only Nep Type 1 Aspect 1 and 3). Still, it is persistent power that even a loss of physical body or whatnot doesn't stop its essence from persisting and still causing his "Rage" to anyone afflicted or influenced.
As long as his chaos exists he can basically bounce back by either Chaos nullifying anything or chaos adapting by ignoring the logic of any magic system up to 7D potentially.

His final key is 1-C where he can be reborn to simply gives him the full potential of chaos and its entire properties for him

 

[Nicetoderp]

yes but suppressing him often doesn't work (people tried in-verse 3x and he always escaped and faster each time) because of his chaos that can adapt.
His avatar's power is like far stronger and enough to be 7D but falls short in terms of depth as void power comparison to Chaos (Only Nep Type 1 Aspect 1 and 3). Still, it is persistent power that even a loss of physical body or whatnot doesn't stop its essence from persisting and still causing his "Rage" to anyone afflicted or influenced.
As long as his chaos exists he can basically bounce back by either Chaos nullifying anything or chaos adapting by ignoring the logic of any magic system up to 7D potentially.

His final key is 1-C where he can be reborn to simply gives him the full potential of chaos and its entire properties for him

How about High-Godly regen neg and being permanently stuck in eternal death loop?

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

How about High-Godly regen neg and being permanently stuck in eternal death loop?

which high godly regen he negs?
explain the eternal death loop mechanics

 

[Nicetoderp]

which high godly regen he negs?
explain the eternal death loop mechanics

High Godly Regen Neg of Plot and Type 1 Conceptual variety.

The person Cronus (one of Oma's powerset) is permanently stuck during the moment of death in time, forever frozen.

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Characters from Mission: Yozakura Family for 10th spot in Low 7-C
Namely Kyoichiro Yozakura and Futaba Yozakura

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

High Godly Regen Neg of Plot and Type 1 Conceptual variety.

The person Cronus (one of Oma's powerset) is permanently stuck during the moment of death in time, forever frozen.

He can also regen from history and can exist even without Info type 2 so it may not fully work.

Beelzebub whole schtick is Causality corruption so any time-related things are often nullified. like the 3 attempts includes
trapping him with primal beast containment that separates him into 3 and sealing each differently
trapping into a dimensionless realm where time also holds no sway
making him fall down into crimson horizon where everything and chaos is outright always erasing him and has no regular time so his experience felt like an eternity

 

[Nicetoderp]

He can also regen from history and can exist even without Info type 2 so it may not fully work

The Concept in question is history, too yes.

Beelzebub whole schtick is Causality corruption so any time-related things are often nullified. like the 3 attempts includes

How many layers of time hax? Oma have around 3~4 layers of time fuckery. Also, he can just neg his enemy resistances. Several of his ability completely strip his enemy of their abilities, if it will work or not.

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

How many layers of time hax? Oma have around 3~4 layers of time fuckery. Also, he can just neg his enemy resistances. Several of his ability completely strip his enemy of their abilities, if it will work or not.

BDE + Granblue can resist resistance negation and reduction to resistance and require someone with Godsight to negate even that resistance and negation resistance

The Concept in question is history, too yes.

what about info type 2? As chaos can exist without history and concept and info type 2. as long as one of it isn't negged they can use it to return physically and simply exist without the other

 

[Lynieryz]

what about info type 2? As chaos can exist without history and concept and info type 2. as long as one of it isn't negged they can use it to return physically and simply exist without the other

He has access to the Gamedeus virus which is capable of erasing Bugsters, Bugsters are solely composed of InfoType2 and they constantly return from being deleted and even so the Gamedeus virus manages to erase them.

greater Disease Manipulation, Status Effect Inducement and Existence Erasure (Gamedeus's Virus are so strong that they can spread on worldwide scale and even affect other Bugsters as well)

Immortality (Type 1, 3, 4, 6, 8), Regeneration (Mid-Godly; Bugsters can revive from their own deaths, after which the body and data vanish. Computer data is what makes up their body and mind, which means they can survive a complete destuction of their existence. If a Bugster is killed or before gaining a stable body, they can be absorbed and preserved into a Gashacon Bugvisor in a form of data, as an efficient way to preserve their data for other uses)

Inorganic Physiology (Type 2; Bugsters' bodies are made of data and as such don't have any organic parts)

Statistics Amplification (Can freely set his own physical statistics), Reality Warping, Information Manipulation (Type 1 & 2), Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2) (Can reprogram anything that came into contact with his body. He has total control over his Game Area where he can control all the concepts that encompass reality, such as time, space, physics, concepts, laws and etc. Because the Game Area is entirely data-driven, even abstract concepts like thought patterns and consciousness, life and death can be represented as data forms[1])

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Data and info type 2 are different
Since info type 2 are fundamental aspect of reality while data can either be just information about someone that makes them exist in reality.
besides if they are really info type 2 it would give bugster high godly regen from coming back from their data being erased and not mid godly

to elaborate info type 2 in granblue is based on the fact that reality in granblue are merely information inside Orologia's or Wedges personality and they can repeatedly create simulations that are real universes and these information although not directly from the main reality can be inserted and corrupt the information or outright overwrite the one from main reality that they needed to find a way to erase all of the information of all simulated realities inside Orologia

 

[Lynieryz]

Data and info type 2 are different
Since info type 2 are fundamental aspect of reality while data can either be just information about someone that makes them exist in reality.
besides if they are really info type 2 it would give bugster high godly regen from coming back from their data being erased and not mid godly

to elaborate info type 2 in granblue is based on the fact that reality in granblue are merely information inside Orologia's or Wedges personality and they can repeatedly create simulations that are real universes and these information although not directly from the main reality can be inserted and corrupt the information or outright overwrite the one from main reality that they needed to find a way to erase all of the information of all simulated realities inside Orologia

Statistics Amplification (Can freely set his own physical statistics), Reality Warping, Information Manipulation (Type 1 & 2), Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2) (Can reprogram anything that came into contact with his body. He has total control over his Game Area where he can control all the concepts that encompass reality, such as time, space, physics, concepts, laws and etc. Because the Game Area is entirely data-driven, even abstract concepts like thought patterns and consciousness, life and death can be represented as data forms[1])

He has access to the Gamedeus virus which is capable of erasing Bugsters, Bugsters are solely composed of InfoType2 and they constantly return from being deleted and even so the Gamedeus virus manages to erase them.

 

[deonment]

Data and info type 2 are different
Since info type 2 are fundamental aspect of reality while data can either be just information about someone that makes them exist in reality.
besides if they are really info type 2 it would give bugster high godly regen from coming back from their data being erased and not mid godly

1)They are the same in this case
2)No, if your data defines your existence that is just straight-up info type 2 (tbqh data manip shouldn't even be its own page but that's a whole other can of worms)

 

[CodeCCLL]

Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken characters in 6-A should be changed to Dino (Light Novel), Diablo (Light Novel) and Ruminas Valentine (Light Novel).

Bump

 

[Eseseso]

Battle for the #4 Low 1-A spot (with Dormammu representing "Characters from Marvel Comics")

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

1)They are the same in this case
2)No, if your data defines your existence that is just straight-up info type 2 (tbqh data manip shouldn't even be its own page but that's a whole other can of worms)

fair enough
then Chaos can simply corrupt it and nullifies it as it nullifies providence in Granblue which includes info type 2, Concept, History.

what about the fact that his manipulation needs to occur in the game area? and how high is this in dimension?

 

[AlphaOmegaV1]

So this just officially got accepted, along with this. So Final Fantasy now needs to be either on the same spot as Puella Puella or above them since neither of them can interact with or affect the other (Type 5 Acausality for Puella Puella and now FF has Type 2 NEP from Ultima The High Seraph (Aspects 1 & 3) and Mid/Top Tier Fal'Cie's (Aspects 1, 2, & 4), and in terms of whose more haxxy, FF definitely wins that battle for now

As far as individuals go. Ace should have the spot by himself in 5-B since Ruphas now can't even touch him without resorting to smurf hax, allowing Ace to freely one shot her with hax out the ass if the passives don't already yeet her first.

Also is Gu Taxian a 5-D smurf? and can Cui Heng in his 5-B key affect NEP 2?

 

[Unqver]

So this just officially got accepted. So Final Fantasy now needs to be either on the same spot as Puella Puella or above them since neither of them can't interact with or affect the other (Type 5 Acausality for Puella Puella and now Type 2 NEP for FF) and in terms of whose more haxxy, FF definitely wins that battle for now

Also is Gu Taxian a 5-D smurf? and can Cui Heng in his 5-B key affect NEP 2?

No, according to the standards here, the age of 90 million years without immortality (which is the ninth level of immortality) is a boundary point, with H1-B above and only 2-A below (GuTaxian is only the highest immortal value on the eighth level, unless you believe that the 2-A Heavenly Realm is just a description of an illusory dream for him）

 

[Livinmeme]

**** this, who is the strongest, FF 2-A character?

 

[Psychomaster35]

For reference, this is the 4-A non-smurf list:

Tier 4-A:

Spoiler

1. Wei Shi Lindon

2. Characters from Epic Battle Fantasy (Mainly Godcat and Akron)

3. Characters from The God of High School (Mujin Park and 666: Satan) (Speed Equalized) / Evil Computer Supreme (Speed Unequalized)

4. SpongeBob SquarePants

5. Characters from Bleach (Senjumaru Shutara and Sosuke Aizen)

6. Yang Kai

7. Black Hole

8. Dark Gaia

9. Fastus

10. Garou

11. Lee Geon

12.

13.

14.

15.

Ideally, the list for here should be like this:

Tier 4-A:

Spoiler

1. The Weaver

2. Chen Jin

3. Characters from Granblue Fantasy (Captain and Bahamut) (Speed Equalized) / Sun Wukong (Speed Unequalized)

4. Characters from Dr. Slump (Arale Norimaki and Gatchan)

5. Characters from God of War

6. Characters from Epic Battle Fantasy

7. Ace (Final Fantasy)

8. Li Qiye

9. Wei Shi Lindon

10. Characters from The God of High School (Mujin Park and 666: Satan) (Speed Equalized) / Evil Computer Supreme (Speed Unequalized)

11. Mickey Mouse (Speed Equalized) / SpongeBob SquarePants (Speed Unequalized)

12. Characters from Bleach (Senjumaru Shutara and Sosuke Aizen)

13. Yang Kai

14. Announcer

15. Dark Gaia

Note: Though Wei places higher than the EBF characters (Specifically Godcat and Akron who aren't smurfs) in the non-smurf list, the players have passive 5-D plot/fate hax as well as passive law/probability hax that would make them stomp Wei. Also, Announcer is in the place of Black Hole because he has thought-based 4-D plot manipulation that also doubles as power nullification (He could probably even place higher if I wanted him to because #10-14 are non-smurfs).

Still waiting for this change

 

[Nicetoderp]

fair enough
then Chaos can simply corrupt it and nullifies it as it nullifies providence in Granblue which includes info type 2, Concept, History.

what about the fact that his manipulation needs to occur in the game area? and how high is this in dimension?

As large as the universe, however, due to Oma abilities to freely changes any of his own abilities. It should easily scale to 6-D. And unless Chaos can act out on its own without any of of Belial input.

Oma has High Godly Plot regen.

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

As large as the universe, however, due to Oma abilities to freely changes any of his own abilities. It should easily scale to 6-D. And unless Chaos can act out on its own without any of of Belial input.

Oma has High Godly Plot regen.

Beelzebub can put it up as a full-body barrier with Langelaan field. he freely controls it to the point that even if he is being pulverized or is being killed/erased. Aside from the Chaos thing. He can also infect people with Avatar's rage since he technically still hold Avatar's void as a weapon. although it is not as Haxy as Chaos it's still a 7D power so it would be able to mind hax and can act independently but fully subjugated by Beelzebub
Also, I'm assuming Oma can interact with Nep Type 2?
cause I've only seen NEp Type 1 and 3 in some profiles in Kamen Rider

 

[CodeCCLL]

Ramiris (Light Novel), for 5th spot in 10-C.

As starting move, Ramiris use her "Small World" ability she rewrites the coordinates of 3D beings and 4D universal space-time continuums, isolating them in the (2-B) labyrinth bounded by countless space-time continuums. Her "Small World" ability consists of information type 2, and her ability is based on influencing conceptual laws through 3 layer law manipulation.

In addition, as a Spiritual Lifeform, it does not die unless its soul, which is a type 2 information, is erased or its core, which is a type 1 concept, is destroyed.

However, Ramiris' ability is thought-based, so let's still see what the other side can do.

5. SCP-239 (Ramiris resists all of her major abilities, the only ability she does not resist, existence erasure, does not appear to be at the information type 2 or type 1 concept level, so it is useless on Ramiris)

6. Sōya Azashiro (Azashiro's passive reiatsu crush does not work on the soul of Ramiris which is information type 2 and his nigh-omnipreset won't work either, as Ramiris would directly isolate the universal space-time continuum)

7. Floating Eye (Only notable ability, mind manipulation, is useless against Ramiris, who has a information type 2 mind and both unconventional resistance and mental invulnerability)

So she should at least beat these characters.

4. Culaina (Speed Equalized) / Chess Pieces (Speed Unequalized)

These two for need a matchup, there is a possibility of incon.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Ramiris (Light Novel), for 5th spot in 10-C.

As starting move, Ramiris use her "Small World" ability she rewrites the coordinates of 3D beings and 4D universal space-time continuums, isolating them in the (2-B) labyrinth bounded by countless space-time continuums. Her "Small World" ability consists of information type 2, and her ability is based on influencing conceptual laws through 3 layer law manipulation.

In addition, as a Spiritual Lifeform, it does not die unless its soul, which is a type 2 information, is erased or its core, which is a type 1 concept, is destroyed.

However, Ramiris' ability is thought-based, so let's still see what the other side can do.

5. SCP-239 (Ramiris resists all of her major abilities, the only ability she does not resist, entity deletion, does not appear to be at the knowledge type 2 or type 1 concept level, so it is useless on Ramiris)

6. Sōya Azashiro (Azashiro's passive reiatsu crush does not work on the soul of Ramiris which is information type 2 and his nigh-omnipreset won't work either, as Ramiris would directly isolate the universal space-time continuum)

7. Floating Eye (His/her only notable ability, mind manipulation, is useless against Ramiris, who has a information type 2 mind and both unconventional resistance and mental invulnerability)

So she should at least beat these characters.

4. Culaina (Speed Equalized) / Chess Pieces (Speed Unequalized)

These two for need a matchup, there is a possibility of incon.

If Morghur was present on the list, I'd say trying to labyrinth him is about the singular worst idea you can do because that's then exposing your source of power to the guy who tries to corrupt ALL sources of power he can. And before you ask if he could effect it, the answer is yes.

But Morghur would tie Kroak due to stomping Doom of Malan'tai, so... he's not an option.

 

[CodeCCLL]

Doom of Malan'tai

Doesn't Maria slam this guy into the ground?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Doesn't Maria slam this guy into the ground?

Ever hear of this thing called vore?

Cause Doom of Malan'tai LOVES the taste of minda and souls!

 

[CodeCCLL]

Ever hear of this thing called vore?

Cause Doom of Malan'tai LOVES the taste of minda and souls!

I don't believe it has a mouth wide enough to eat 9D minds and souls.

 

[DaReaperMan]

I don't believe it has a mouth wide enough to eat 9D minds and souls.

Try Low 1-A minds and souls for voring souls in the Warp from the materium

 

[Robo432343]

where should we put this dude

Kamen Rider Oma Zi-O

Sougo Tokiwa (常磐ソウゴ Tokiwa Sōgo) is the future version of his present day self who rules the Earth in 2068 as Oma Zi-O (オーマジオウ Ōma Jiō), alternatively spelled Ohma Zi-O, and also referred to as the Demon King (魔王 Ma Ō) by the characters of the series. Tier: At least Low 1-C, likely higher Name...

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[Robo432343]

**** this, who is the strongest, FF 2-A character?

IMO its this guy

Exdeath

All memories… dimensions… existence… All that is shall be returned to nothing.Exdeath Following the defeat of the evil wizard Enuo, humans turned to sealing the souls of malevolent beings in a tree within the Great Forest of Moore. Said tree gradually became self-aware, and became just as evil...

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