He’s not. Hax-wise maybe but the actual strongest guys have terrible pages and don’t even fight.IMO its this guy
Exdeath
All memories… dimensions… existence… All that is shall be returned to nothing.Exdeath Following the defeat of the evil wizard Enuo, humans turned to sealing the souls of malevolent beings in a tree within the Great Forest of Moore. Said tree gradually became self-aware, and became just as evil...vsbattles.fandom.com
Probably, I'm going to search the profiles to find a character who has this accepted.
A more detailed explanation:
idk how to explain this but There already exists something similar to Saver in Granblue that transcends them like that(I'd use transcends for lack of better words since They are now considered energy that is capable of Harming or Kills God that transcends the very Providence of Sky-realm/Astral Realm) or under a different duality system of Existence/nonexistence and they are something they cannot interact with as well.Probably, I'm going to search the profiles to find a character who has this accepted.
But anyway, Gaim manages to interact with Saver and the justification for Beelzebub's NEP is the exact existential state that Saver finds himself in.
A more detailed explanation:
Kamen Rider Transduality Revision
Introduction The dual system of destruction and creation has existed within the Kamen Rider series as a fundamental theme. Several series have used this dual system to express the idea of several consequences. This thread is intended to bring those ideas together in order to make sense of it all...vsbattles.com
None of this is an additional layer of non-existence, just immo5/invulnerability and hax resistance.
I disagree. They were specific when mentioning key terms on this one.
I'm not arguing for layers I'm arguing that NEP type 2 is different from Oma's TD2 which he claimed to be similar
It's literally the same reason, nothing you presented changed the justification, it was just about X being deeper than Y, if you weren't arguing about layers then there is literally nothing to discuss about what you said.
It won't happened due to layered time stop, unless you'll argue that he can do anything at all inside layered time-stop. Or through High-Godly regen neg.
How many layers into high 1a are the characters who occupy these spots ?
Marvel Comics High 1-A layers go like this:
That’s a lot compared to elder scrolls, I think they’re just 2-3 layers
I think that quote refers to the infinite unknown levels in cosmology, cuz there are still things above TOAA but we cannot use them
So it’s: super flow(baseline)< neutral zone< far shore<overspace<beyond<White hot room <land of couldn’t be shouldn’t be<land of can be<house of ideas ?
overspace is below Superflow at least in the wiki
Soooo
Maybe, but the marvel cosmology blog is outdated and will hopefully be updated soon because I don’t think that's what defenders beyond was trying to depict.
Idk I think overspace is a lower section of the mystery
Indeed.
They should all be the same as Omniversal Eternity, especially as the First Firmament, aka the First Cosmos, overpowered a weakened Omniversal Eternity.
Darkseid got fodderized by another Kamen Rider that Oma stomp, and he would have all of that guy ability because Oma.where should we put this dude
Kamen Rider Oma Zi-O
Sougo Tokiwa (常磐ソウゴ Tokiwa Sōgo) is the future version of his present day self who rules the Earth in 2068 as Oma Zi-O (オーマジオウ Ōma Jiō), alternatively spelled Ohma Zi-O, and also referred to as the Demon King (魔王 Ma Ō) by the characters of the series. Tier: At least Low 1-C, likely higher Name...
Probably one of the Demon Lords or the Royal Knights, but they may as well be smurfs.
With the Transfinite rf hierarchy in the third sage's seal, i think it is possible
With the CRT that is about to go through, Ning resists quite a few layers of type 1 concept hax and several different ways to apply it (essentially everything he does is conceptual in nature and so is everything he resists).
What is Darkside doing there in 4-B? change it to 2-C, at least he should share the same place as Neron (have same kit that him but better) or He can probably beat EBF if he has access to ALE, cuz 6-D Mind/Concept/Soul slavery GG
Nope
Each great being can only represent one kind of right. Josiah is special. He is the great being who represents miracles and disputes.
How many layers are we talking? If it's 3 layers then he doesn't resist it. Lower then he'll shrug it off. However, he can increase his layers by making new ability.
Oma resist Fusionism. And resist layered conceptual powernull and resist resistance neg as well. He has interact with Type 2 non-dual via bodied Zi-O 2 but not sure if he can interact with layered transdual.
For his 3A key it would already be something in the 2, maybe 3 layers, the actual 1C key would be more (4 or 5 at the bare minimum).
I think you misunderstood, Ning uses fusionism on himself so that others can't sense or affect him (unless you have the feats for destroying type 1 concepts that have layered Transduality, that is).
How many layers for each of these are we talking about? Again, most if not all of Ning's powers are somewhere from 4 to 5 layers in 8D.
Ning could deal with baseline type 2 Transduality by his 4B key (which is before he got it himself, mind you), so that doesn't seem to be enough.
Sadly, Ning doesn't have plot hax, is Oma's plot hax passive? What could he do with it against Ning?
It isn't passive. However, he can do just about anything with it. If he think you get punch and die then you will, in fact, get punch and die.
That's... a NLF at its best.
No? Transduality only applies to the specific dualities that are transcended, if plot is not among them, the NLF is saying that the plot manipulation will be resisted.
I am not saying Ning will resist Plot hax, indeed, where did I ever imply he would?
Literally anything, you have to have very little creativity to think that there is nothing else that can be done.
And which of these things has he ever done in character before? At which point would he try them?
Oma in character finds any fight that is not personally related to himself a nuisance and wants to end them as quickly as possible, he will simply look into the future and see what is the most efficient way to end the fight.
You have to be much more specific than that, Oma literally has all types of immortality and countless hax to get out of incap or not even be affected in the first place.
Aca2, Aca4 and transcendent in relation to the duality of space-time.
Ning has layered type 4 acausality and layered transcendence of the duality of space and time himself, with his time related powers (future sight, time stop, etc) all affecting characters with these same abilities + there are 2 time dimensions in the DE cosmology, the default one and a higher one, so his time stuff is inherently better than Oma's unless he has this as well.
Again, as Nicetoderp already said Oma's layers are below Ning's, in his own words Oma can't resist 3 layers, Ning is at 4 with every single hax at the bare minimum and would be well aware in the case of him being unable to kill Oma and would instantly go for incap using any hax he has that Oma can't resist.
Read above.
Valid in Aca4 and the additional temporal dimension means nothing if it doesn't add anything beyond the dimensional scale that Ji Ning is already in because dimensionality in general already results in the same.
You have to be more specific, my comment was never about Oma resisting, but rather in the sense of hax interaction, Oma has hax that takes him out of incon depending on the hax's functionality that's why I need to know what you're talking about, can you explain what incap are you talking about and how it works?
I am pretty sure I've seen a few threads where a character having an extra temporal dimension allowed them to affect/resist others.
He can trap Oma in illusions, stop his time, erase his memories of Ning or just overall mind control and just like how Oma can set the plot so that Ning will do this or that, Ning can do the same thing through fate.
