Top 15 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation

[Arkenis]

Basically only characters who don't have higher-dimensional abilities or stats then their dimensional level (I.E. a 10D character can't have 11D hax, for example). Even if said stuff is practically useless. This also includes protection from a higher dimensional being, range and resistances. Only physical stats are considered (I.E. if a character has a High 3-A technique but is only 9-A by itself, then the character will only count for 9-A and not for High 3-A). Multipliers that physically enhance a character to a different tier are allowed to be used for that character's placement in that tier (I.E. If you have a character that is normally 9-B, but through enhancements is capable of reaching 9-A, they would be allowed in both 9-B and 9-A respectively). Characters also must be physically in the tier they're being requested to place in. This means having Striking Strength on that level.

Also, I will remove characters I could tell at a glance were no longer a member of the tier they were listed under. I will also remove profiles that are heavily outdated or lack active enough supporters to defend their position.

I will also not add characters/verses if they aren't provided to me by the person who is advocating a position for them. It's a respect thing. Just because I'm the one who is updating the list doesn't mean I have an obligation to grab the requested pages when I'm not the person who is saying they should be on the list in the first place. Y'all are.

Also also, I've added a section with the versus threads to decide certain placements at the very bottom of the list. So if you make one please link it here.

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Tier 1-A:

Spoiler

1. The Goddess of The Manifold

2. Characters from Megami Tensei

3. Characters from Warhammer 40,000

4. MSPA Reader

5. Characters from Ergenverse

6. Gu Chensha

7. Lu Zhiyu

8. Gao Chuan

9. Yogiri Takatou

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Tier Low 1-A:

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1. Characters from A Wild Last Boss Appeared

2. Ultimate Extermination God

3. Characters from Dragon Talisman

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Tier High 1-B:

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1. Characters from Dragon Talisman

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Tier 1-B:

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1. Gods (Magi)

2. Touichirou

3. The Higher Entities

4. The Dreaming Ones

5. Characters from Transformers

6. Yan Sen

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Tier High 1-C:

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1. Characters from Doctor Who / Mother Eater

2. Characters from Gurren Lagann (Verse)

3. Characters from To Aru Majutsu No Index

4. Sun Wukong

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Tier 1-C:

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1. Shallow Vernal

2. Characters from Nasuverse

3. Characters from Kamen Rider

4. Ji Ning

5. Deadline

6. Characters from DC Comics (Monitor-Mind The Overvoid, The Presence, and God)

7. K.E.V.I.N.

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Tier Low 1-C:

Spoiler

1. Yang Qi

2. Characters from Nasuverse

3. Xue Ying

4. Characters from Xenoblade (Z, Alpha and Alvis)

5. Arceus (Speed Unequalized) / Sonic the Hedgehog (Main Continuity) (Sonic, Solaris, and The End)

6. Kamen Rider Barlcxks

7. Makina

8. Nyanlathotep

9. Loki (God of Stories)

10. Sora

11. Arale Norimaki

12. Devourer

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Tier 2-A:

Spoiler

1. Gu Taxian/Cui Heng

2. Characters from Final Fantasy

3. Veldanava

4. Characters from Pokémon

5. Wei Huo

6. Characters from Supernatural (Jack Kline, God, and The Shadow)

7. Clockwork (Danny Phantom)

8. Discord

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Tier 2-B:

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1. Cui Heng

2. Characters from Pokémon / Rimuru Tempest (Web Novel) / Gu Chensha

3. Characters from Coiling Dragon

4. Characters from EarthBound

5. Wei Huo

6. Dormammu

7. Chara

8. Characters from Cookie Run (Timekeeper Cookie and Dark Enchantress Cookie)

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Tier 2-C:

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1. Characters from Castlevania

2. The Creator

3. Characters from Destiny / Characters from Touhou Project (Junko, Yukari Yakumo and Reimu Hakurei) / Characters from Anima: Beyond Fantasy Speed Equalized

4. Characters from Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken (Chloe O'Bell, Ramiris, Rimuru)

5. Kamen Rider Saber

6. Li Qiye

7. Mundus (Devil May Cry)

8. Medea Pideth Machina (Web Novel)

9. Mori Dan

10. Nil (Her Tears Were My Light)

11. Wang Ling

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Tier Low 2-C:

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1. Characters from Destiny

2. Dracula

3. Parca

4. Medea Pideth Machina (Web Novel) / Veldora Tempest (Web Novel)

5. Ecang

6. Giygas

7. Koriel Number 12

8. Arata

9. Yorman

10. Prime Soul King

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Tier High 3-A:

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1. Fudo Myo-o

2. Disembodied Thought

3. Godcat

4. Characters from Pokémon

5. Kurzgesagt Narrator

6. Monica Pinkston

7. Characters from W.I.T.C.H. (Irma Lair, Taranee Cook, Corneila Hail, and Hay Lin)

8. Sauron

9. Mônica

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Tier 3-A:

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1. Wei Shi Lindon

2. Satan

3. Chen Qi (Dragon Talisman)

4. Najimi Ajimu

5. Lukas Trowman

6. Marble Alien

7. Arishem

8. Overclocked Bender

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Tier 3-B:

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1. Zhong Yue

2. Characters from Ergenverse (Saint-Emperor and Bai Xiaochun)

3. Uriel (Bastard!!)

4. Characters from Nipponverse

5. Characters from Asura's Wrath (Asura and Chakravartin)

6. Mujin Park

7. Celestials

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Tier 3-C:

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1. Characters from Bastard!!

2. Odin (Fortissimo)

3. The White Queen (Blood Sign)

4. SpongeBob SquarePants

5. Characters from Pokemon (Yveltal and Victini)

6. Characters from Bleach (Ichigo Kurosaki, Hikone Ubuginu and Kenpachi Zaraki)

7. Yang Kai

8. Garou

9. Characters from Darkstalker (Jedah and Morrigan)

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Tier 4-A:

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1. Wei Shi Lindon

2. Characters from Epic Battle Fantasy (Mainly Godcat and Akron)

3. Characters from The God of High School (Mujin Park and 666: Satan) (Speed Equalized) / Evil Computer Supreme (Speed Unequalized)

4. SpongeBob SquarePants

5. Characters from Bleach (Senjumaru Shutara and Sosuke Aizen)

6. Yang Kai

7. Black Hole

8. Dark Gaia

9. Fastus

10. Garou

11. Lee Geon

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Tier 4-B:

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1. Characters from Ergenverse (mostly Gongsun Wan'er)

2. The White Queen (Blood Sign)

3. Balancer

4. Zhong Yue

5. Fudo Myo-o

6. Orloff

7. W'rkncacnter

8. Xiao Hei

9. Mega Man

10. The Player (Pixle Gun 3D)

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Tier High 4-C

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1. Characters from Bastard!!

2. Balancer

3. Characters from Ergenverse

4. Ji Ning

5. Characters from Yu-Gi-Oh!

6. Starjun

7. Yang Kai

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Tier 4-C

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1. Uriel (Bastard!!)

2. Nono

3. Teridax

4. Yang Kai

5. Setsuno

6. Father

7. Mônica

8. The Batter

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Tier Low 4-C:

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1. Dark Samus

2. Characters from Enter the Gungeon

3. Yang Kai

4. HIM

5. Mega Man

6. Zone Fighters

7. Bardock

8. Captain Marvel

9. Voltron

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Tier High 5-A:

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1. Du Tian

2. Xue Ying

3. Kamui

4. Teridax

5. Kawahira

6. Viewtiful Joe

7. Characters from Marvel vs. Capcom (Dormammu, Shuma-Gorath, and Abyss)

8. Arthur Pendragon

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Tier 5-A:

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1. Characters from Ergenverse (mostly Wang Lin)

2. Wei Shi Lindon

3. Xue Ying

4. Characters from Weakest Mage

5. Ata

6. Characters from Katekyo Hitman Reborn

7. Ganondorf

8. Zeref Dragneel

9. Characters from Megaman

10. Max Steel

11. World Leader

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Tier 5-B:

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1. Characters from Bastard!!

2. Characters from Ergenverse (mostly Gongsun Wan'er)

3. Odin (Fortissimo)

4. Meng Chuan

5. Ata

6. Mori Jin

7. Characters from World of Warcraft (Illidan Stormrage and Arthas Menethil)

8. Yang Kai

9. Makino, Terror amp Amp Five Elementors

10. Darth Vader (Soul Calibur)

11. Characters from Record of Ragnarok (Beelzebub, Adam, and Zeus)

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Tier Low 5-B:

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1. Wei Shi Lindon

2. Nessie

3. Characters from Ergenverse (Bai Xiaochun and Ji Mo)

4. Hajime Nagumo (Speed Unequalized) / Ji Ning (Speed Equalized)

5. Golden King

6. Characters from Neon Genesis Evangelion (Rei Ayanami and Adam)

7. QiQi

8. Characters from Bleach (Ichibē Hyōsube and Yhwach)

9. Minato Hikaru

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Tier 5-C:

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Spoiler: Settra

0. Settra the Imperishable, Great King, the Imperishable, Khemrikhara, The Great King of Nehekhara, King of Kings, Opener of the Way, Wielder of the Divine Flame, Punisher of Nomads, The Great Unifier, Commander of the Golden Legion, Sacred of Appearance, Bringer of Light, Father of Hawks, Builder of Cities, Protector of the Two Worlds, Keeper of the Hours, Chosen of Ptra, High Steward of the Horizon, Sailor of the Great Vitae, Sentinel of the Two Realms, The Undisputed, Begetter of the Begat, Scourge of the Faithless, Carrion-feeder, First of the Charnel Valley, Rider of the Sacred Chariot, Vanquisher of Vermin, Champion of the Death Arena, Mighty Lion of the Infinite Desert, Emperor of the Shifting Sands, He Who Holds The Sceptre, Great Hawk Of The Heavens, Arch-Sultan of Atalan, Waker of the Hierotitan, Monarch of the Sky, Majestic Emperor of the Shifting Sands, Champion of the Desert Gods, Breaker of the Ogre Clans, Builder of the Great Pyramid, Terror of the Living, Master of the Never-Ending Horizon, Master of the Necropolises, Taker of Souls, Tyrant to the Foolish, Bearer of Ptra's Holy Blade, Scion of Usirian, Scion of Nehek, The Great, Chaser of Nightmares, Keeper of the Royal Herat, Founder of the Mortuary Cult, Banisher of the Grand Hierophant, High Lord Admiral of the Deathfleets, Guardian of the Charnal Pass, Tamer of the Liche King, Unliving Jackal Lord, Dismisser of the Warrior Queen, Charioteer of the Gods, He Who Does Not Serve, Slayer off Reddittras, Scarab Purger, Favoured of Usirian, Player of the Great Game, Liberator of Life, Lord Sand, Wrangler of Scorpions, Emperor of the Dunes, Eternal Sovereign of Khemri's Legions, Seneschal of the Great Sandy Desert, Curserer of the Living, Regent of the Eastern Mountains, Warden of the Eternal Necropolis, Herald of all Heralds, Caller of the Bitter Wind, God-Tamer, Master of the Mortis River, Guardian of the Dead, Great Keeper of the Obelisks, Deacon of the Ash River, Belated of Wakers, General of the Mighty Frame, Summoner of Sandstorms, Master of all Necrotects, Prince of Dust, Tyrant of Araby, Purger of the Greenskin Breathers, Killer of the False God's Champions, Tyrant of the Gold Dunes, Golden Bone Lord, Avenger of the Dead, Carrion Master, Eternal Warden of Nehek's Lands, Breaker of Djaf's Bonds

1. Kagami

2. Characters from Ergenverse

3. Wei Shi Lindon

4. Konron

5. Characters from Arifureta

6. Ata / Iihiko Shishime

7. Kenshiro

8. Asta (Speed Unequalized) / Hagoromo Ōtsutsuki (Speed Equalized)

9. Pyra

10. Mahou Sensei Negima!

11. Characters from Nanatsu no Taizai (Supreme Deity, Demon King and Meliodas)

12. Doom (Mashle: Magic and Muscles)

13. Brethren Moons

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Tier High 6-A:

Spoiler

1. Chen Qi (Dragon Talisman)

2. Zhong Yue

3. Characters from Ergenverse

4. Ji Ning

5. Characters from Willverse

6. Aisha Necron

7. Adam (Evangelion)

8. Eternatus

9. Characters from Touhou (Mainly Reisen)

10. Gremmy Thoumeaux

11. Byleth Eisner

12. The Beast (InFAMOUS)

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Tier 6-A:

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1. Ehitorujue

2. Characters from Ergenverse

3. Kidou En

4. Arthas Menethil

5. Waddle Dee

6. Inuyasha

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Tier High 6-B:

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1. Ehitorujue

2. Characters from Ergenverse (mostly Gongsun Wan'er)

3. Alte

4. Unleashed True Self Mode Baam

5. Characters from Toriko (Starjun and Brunch)

6. Obito Uchiha

7. Characters from Martial Peak

8. Characters from Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha (Sasha & Misha)

9. Mash Burndead

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Tier 6-B:

Spoiler

1. Yomoji Shinsei

2. Characters from Arifureta

3. Nessie

4. Characters from Tsuki ga Michibiku Isekai Douchuu

5. Ji Ning

6. Aisha Necron

7. Characters from Bleach

8. Calyrex

9. Characters from Mob Psycho (Keiji Mogami and Toichiro Suzuki)

10. Characters from Black Clover (Zagred, Yami Sukehiro and Morris Libardirt)

11. Minato Namikaze

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Tier Low 6-B:

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1. Characters from Arifureta

2. Ark

3. Ji Ning

4. Oltura

5. Characters from Highschool DxD (Issei, Vali and Lucifer)

6. Hiyori Sarugaki

7. Sousei no Onmyouji (Rokuro Enmadou, Sakanashi and Benio Enmado)

8. Khi'zar Kha'jul

9. Characters from Witch Hunter (Edea, Tasha, Varete)

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Tier High 6-C:

Spoiler

1. Ji Ning

2. Ard

3. Kamen Rider Ark-Zero

4. Sakanashi

5. Bebe

6. Grimm=Grimm

7. Characters from Martial Peak

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Tier 6-C:

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1. Characters from Puella Magi Verse (Mami Tomoe and Alina Gray)

2. Mephisto

3. Xue Ying

4. Kakine Teitoku

5. Characters from Arifureta (Speed Equalized) / Nergal (Speed Unequalized)

6. Daphne

7. Obito Uchiha

8. Shiro (Deadman Wonderland)

9. Sonic the Hedgehog

10. Characters from Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha (Sasha & Misha)

11. Dimension Predator

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Tier High 7-A:

Spoiler

1. Han

2. Zhong Yue

3. Characters from Arifureta

4. The Great Warlock

5. Characters from InFAMOUS (Cole MacGrath (Evil Karma) and The Beast)

6. Nergal

7. Kurumi Tokisaki

8. Characters from Sousei no Onmyouji Gabura, Arima, Tatara

9. Sasuke Uchiha

10. Travis Touchdown

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Tier 7-A:

Spoiler

1. Han Jee-Han

2. Kumoko

3. Characters from Arifureta

4. Characters from Death Mage

5. Geist Grace

6. Zhong Yue

7. Characters from Ergenverse

8. Arthas Menethil

9. Sirius

10. Itachi Uchiha

11. Characters from Highschool DxD (Issei, Rias and Vali)

12. Characters from Re:Zero Julius, Roswaal, Aldebaran

13. Tasha Godspell

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Tier 7-B:

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1. Characters from Touhou (mainly Yoshika Miyako)

2. Characters from Arifureta

3. Kakine Teitoku

4. Alan

5. Brunhild Schild

6. Characters from Undead Unluck (Juiz, Sick, Seal)

7. Characters from InFAMOUS (Kessler, Sasha and David Warner)

8. Salem

9. Sousei no Onmyouji (Kankuro Mitosaka (Manga), Kengo Uji (Manga), Hibari Zeze)

10. Characters from Killer Vamp (Domino, Shiro, Eden)

11. Zabuza Momochi

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Tier Low 7-B:

Spoiler

1. Theodore Miller

2. Characters from Sekien No Inganock

3. Characters from Godspeed (Speed Equal) / Giygas (Speed Unequalized)

4. Rikuo Nura

5. Ancient Lich King (Summoners War)

6. Characters from Pokémon

7. Black Fire

8. World Gobbler

9. Flect Turn

10. Clover

11. Enel

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Tier High 7-C:

Spoiler

1. Han Jee-Han

2. Fran (with Master (Tensei Shitara Ken Deshita)) (Speed Equalized) / Toujou Basara (Speed Unequalized)

3. Characters from Sekien No Inganock

4. Tao Hua

5. Brunhild Schild

6. Rikuo Nura

7. Shadow Man/JJK (Gojo, Sukuna)

8. Gentle Criminal

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Tier 7-C:

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1. Characters from Lord of the Mysteries (Klein and Amon)

2. Beiloune

3. Eshita Inana

4. The Hunter / Characters from Fray (Magpie and Legion)

5. Cid

6. Father

7. Crocodile (Speed Unequalized) \ Hei (Speed Equalized)

8. Mash Burnedead

9. Ali

10. Travis Touchdown

11. Characters from My Hero Academia/Chicken

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Tier Low 7-C:

Spoiler

1. Meng Chuan

2. Sacred Eclipse / Cat Boy

3. Alex Mercer

4. Natsumi

5. Characters from D.Gray-Man (Allen Walker and Yu Kanda)

6. Characters from Marvel Cinematic Universe

7. Henry Stickmin

8. Characters from Magical Girl Raising Project (Lapis Lazuline, Melville, Sonia Bean and Hana Gekokujou)

9. Characters from Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha (Sasha & Misha)

10. Wu Mian

11. Characters from JJK (Kenjaku, Yorozu, and Kashimo)

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Tier 8-A:

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1. Characters from Owari no Chronicle (Typhon and Susamikado)

2. The Hunter

3. Characters from Shakugan no Shana

4. Henry Stickman

5. Sacred Eclipse

6. Shizuku Yaegashi

7. Han Jee-Han

8. Crowfather

9. Junko

10. Characters from I Reincarnated For Nothing (Arpe and Maetel)

11. Mahito

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Tier 8-B:

Spoiler

1. Characters from Medaka Box (Iihiko, Medaka and Kumagawa)

2. Endou Kousuke

3. Shigara Masami

4. Janus (Nightmares of Alamir)

5. Characters from Touhou

6. The Sorrow

7. Qin Mu

8. Provedor

9. Isaac

10. Choi Yoon-seok

11. Mahito

12. Hollow (SHY)

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Tier High 8-C:

Spoiler

1. Henry Stickmin (Speed Equalized) \ Characters from Kral Şakir (Speed Unequalized)

2. Choi Yoon-seok/ Deathmaster Snikch

3. Anri

4. Johnny Test

5. F (Alphabet)

6. Mardicus

7. Bunny

8. Korosensei

9. Brandon Heat

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Tier 8-C:

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1. Trazyn the Infinite

2. Characters from Nuclear Throne

3. Shana

4. Gleadr

5. Talion

6. Something

7. Characters from Katana Zero (Zero, Fifteen and Headhunter)

8. Positron

9. Master Roshi

10. Isaac Clarke

11. Po

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Tier 9-A:

Spoiler

1. Aiko Hatayama

2. Ainz Ooal Gown

3. Isaac

4. Snatcher

5. Haruna (Arpeggio of Blue Steel)

6. Hachimaru

7. Zahhak

8. Characters from Dishonored (Corvo Attano and Emily Kaldwin)

9. Mardicus

10. Tricky The Clown

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Tier 9-B:

Spoiler

1. Klein Moretti

2. Hatou Manabu

3. Characters from Sekien no Inganock Wendigo, Marionette / Slappy (Books)

4. Aburatori

5. Characters from Owari no Chronicle

6. Aiko Hatayama

7. Giggles

8. The Radiance

9. Yomiel

10. Morgan Yu

11. Professor Mortum

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Tier 9-C:

Spoiler

1. Protagonist-kun

2. Shiba Tatsuya

3. Tamamo (High School Inari Tamamo-chan!)

4. Characters from Lord of the Mysteries

5. Kyousuke

6. Lugh Tuatha De

7. The Prince of Cures

8. Master Darque

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Tier 10-A:

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1. Characters from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure (mainly Tooru & Rohan)

2. Sheville Warhand

3. Sabrina Spellman

4. Subaru Natsuki

5. Characters from Lord of the Mysteries

6. Jean Grey (Post-Retcon)

7. Ibzan

8. Kaworu Nagisa

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Tier 10-B:

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1. Characters from What a Beautiful Series

2. Higashikawa Mamoru

3. Regulus

4. Zach Noveda

5. Yukio Hans Vorarlberna

6. Shichinin Misaki

7. Shinobu Oshino

8. Akane Kiryu

9. Hinata Tachibana

10. Teruhashi

11. Jean Grey (Pre-Retcon)

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Tier 10-C:

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1. Sōya Azashiro

2. Wanambi

3. Characters from SCP Foundation (SCP-3043 and SCP-1436)

4. Mithra

5. Adeleine

6. The Grool (Goosebumps)

7. Alden Tate

8. Vince (Voodoo Vince)

9. Typhon

10. The Mimic

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Tier 11-A:

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1. SCP-3450

2. Soul Sucking Death Worm

3. Characters from Flatland (Universe)

4. Little Circle

5. Mister Mxyzptlk (Cosmic Adventures in the 8th Grade)

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Tier 11-B:

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1. King of Lineland

2. Queens of Lineland

3. Sandman (SCP)

Tier 11-C:

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1. Monarch of Pointland

2. Caroline (SCP)

Spoiler: Matches

• 3-A Sixth Spot Lukas Trowman Vs Bender
• 5-A Ninth Spot Max Steel vs World Leader
• High 6-B Third Spot Tensura (Light Novel) Characters Vs Alte
• 6-C Sixth Spot Daphne vs Obito
• 10-B Third Spot Regulus vs Zach

 

[Arkenis]

Also also, I've added a section with the versus threads to decide certain placements at the very bottom of the list. So if you make one please link it here.

In the previous one I couldn't find the section, so if I'm just blind could someone paste it here and I'll add it, or I'll just make one

 

[DaReaperMan]

Deathmaster Snikch

Snikch is the Deathmaster, Chief Assassin and prime agent of Sneek, a Lord of Decay and the ruling Nightlord of the Skaven's Clan Eshin. His infamy is only exceeded by the mystery which surrounds his whereabouts at any particular time. Sneek ensures that this is the case -- as long as no one...

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For at least 4th High 8-C

Basically, a look at that Intelligence section, specifically the stealth bit, will tell you that unless you have broken Instictive Action or amazing regen AND resistance to 1 layer of Death Manipulation, Snikch will just sneak up and backstab/decapitate the opponent. He might beat Choi from what I'm seeing but that's a maybe.

 

[Psychomaster35]

Aren't you going to make it a top 15 like the new strongest version one?

 

[Arkenis]

Aren't you going to make it a top 15 like the new strongest version one?

If people want yea, I didn't know if that was for non smurf

 

[DaReaperMan]

Oh, and Macht should be removed from the High 8-C list, he's Low 7-C now(Snikch still wins against him)

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Here's a link for the new thread

But a quick summary for Ning's abilities is basically: though-based layered soul and concept hax as well as resistance to it, but not that haxy outside of these abilities.

He must a good deal of layers to be tied with Arifureta, though last I checked Arifureta's layers was in limbo, idk what's going on there.

His NPI seems to be just ghost, and that's not gonna be enough to GK, and don't see anything stopping GK from passively atomizing him, but could be wrong.

 

[Rikimarox2]

@DaReaperMan Do they like, even hide where they step? As in, when they move, do they care about the rubble on the ground or smth? Becuz Yoon, aside from his bonkers IA, is way, way higher than a dude who could detect an invisible enemy by just noticing the movement of the rubble on the ground.

 

[DaReaperMan]

@DaReaperMan Do they like, even hide where they step? As in, when they move, do they care about the rubble on the ground or smth? Becuz Yoon, aside from his bonkers IA, is way, way higher than a dude who could detect an invisible enemy by just noticing the movement of the rubble on the ground.

Read the stealth section. Thoroughly. That doesn't matter. Also Snikch is still godlike in an up front fight and has tier 5 dura neg weapons

 

[Rikimarox2]

Also Snikch is still godlike in an up front fight and has tier 5 dura neg weapons

Ignoring the Stealth part for now since I gotta check on Warhammer's stealth shenanigans and if they dealt with that shit, but this wouldn't really matter since Yoon's aura alone suppresses people with Class K strength, and he has a bunch of AOE stuff so really, the main problem here is just the stealth and death manip part.

BTW, SBA makes it so characters are already in a state of combat, right? If so, then I'm pretty sure Yoon's aura (Which, IIRC, he uses it at every fight since even just thinking about a fight made him use his aura) would just suppress anything around him.

 

[Arkenis]

Should do a match for it guys.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Ignoring the Stealth part for now since I gotta check on Warhammer's stealth shenanigans and if they dealt with that shit, but this wouldn't really matter since Yoon's aura alone suppresses people with Class K strength, and he has a bunch of AOE stuff so really, the main problem here is just the stealth and death manip part.

Basically Oxyotl, whom Snikch scales to, hid in the Realm of Chaos for Millenia. Daemons view the living in the RoC as massive beacons and all have perfect witchsight which let's them see the truth of the thoughts, emotions, intentions, souls, etc of thise around them. And Lord's of Change can see past and future across the majority of the Cosmology and are nigh-omniscient. And Oxyotl successfully hid from all of this for thousands of years while, let me remind you, he was a literal 360° lighthouse for Daemons across the entire Warp. There isnt a chance in hell Choi finds Snikch before Snikch finds him

BTW, SBA makes it so characters are already in a state of combat, right? If so, then I'm pretty sure Yoon's aura (Which, IIRC, he uses it at every fight since even just thinking about a fight made him use his aura) would just suppress anything around him.

I don't see a range on this aura and they start kilometers away, more then long enough for Snikch to work out how to assassinate Choi. Or just sit there and outlast him cause Snikch can rest and Choi can't

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

He must a good deal of layers to be tied with Arifureta, though last I checked Arifureta's layers was in limbo, idk what's going on there.

His NPI seems to be just ghost, and that's not gonna be enough to GK, and don't see anything stopping GK from passively atomizing him, but could be wrong.

I actually thought to bring it up, or I have earlier in the last thread, on Rosenkreuz topping over Hajime.

Didn't know they had layered stuff, and I was more focused on Hajime's other hax'es like some conceptual bullet thing they got on them.

CHINAMAN though, yeah that was brought up on Rosenkreuz being able to topple over.

I see they have resistance to decon, but it's said to be the one that melts and turns bodies to dust sort of thing. GK decons things to atoms, and that gets even more potent in Ultrathotep. I assume CHINAMAN would be done in mostly by the Branch hands? But idk...never bothered making a matchup even before all the CRT's for WAB were being made at that point.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Should do a match for it guys.

I mean, let's be real, this really is a case of "Can Snikch strike from outside the passive/hide long eniugh for Choi to pass out" or not, which shouldn't take but a couple more posts to hash out

 

[XDragnoir]

He must a good deal of layers to be tied with Arifureta, though last I checked Arifureta's layers was in limbo, idk what's going on there.

He definitely has less layers than the crazy amount Arifureta used to claim, but from the top of my head his soul hax is around 8 layers in the L5B key.

His NPI seems to be just ghost, and that's not gonna be enough to GK, and don't see anything stopping GK from passively atomizing him, but could be wrong.

What exactly is the Golden King made of and how does he interact with concepts around him?

What's the range of that passive at the start?

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Golden King is made of Cracking.

Low 5-B GK has planetary range, he passively atomizes stuff like Critters, and it has layers too.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Spoiler: Made it a spoiler as to not take space

Basically Oxyotl, whom Snikch scales to, hid in the Realm of Chaos for Millenia. Daemons view the living in the RoC as massive beacons and all have perfect witchsight which let's them see the truth of the thoughts, emotions, intentions, souls, etc of thise around them. And Lord's of Change can see past and future across the majority of the Cosmology and are nigh-omniscient. And Oxyotl successfully hid from all of this for thousands of years while, let me remind you, he was a literal 360° lighthouse for Daemons across the entire Warp. There isnt a chance in hell Choi finds Snikch before Snikch finds him

Average Warhammer Shenanigans

I don't see a range on this aura and they start kilometers away, more then long enough for Snikch to work out how to assassinate Choi. Or just sit there and outlast him cause Snikch can rest and Choi can't

IIRC he used the aura on a hallway of a hospital, so, give or take, 5-15 meters (Idk how large are hospital hallways, just know there were a few dozen people in said hallway). Also, outlasting isn't really an option considering Choi never really got tired in the entirety of the series aside from one time before he got the aura, after that, he just absorbs the energy from the surrounding and actively trains for weeks/months while in the middle of a fight (Yes, in a middle of a fight. Dude just straight up brought dumbbells that are supposed to cause fatigue, and kept training while dodging his enemies' attacks for weeks/months). Also, can Snikch see Qi/Magic or stuff like that? His profile doesn't really mention it.

Oh and... can't Yoon just, use his law manip so that no one can hide or move? Since if he can't see his opponent, I don't see why he can't just use his law manip in order to reveal them or make them unable to hide. Albeit that might be a bit of a stretch, and is not likely to be a first move.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Average Warhammer Shenanigans

IIRC he used the aura on a hallway of a hospital, so, give or take, 5-15 meters (Idk how large are hospital hallways, just know there were a few dozen people in said hallway). Also, outlasting isn't really an option considering Choi never really got tired in the entirety of the series aside from one time before he got the aura, after that, he just absorbs the energy from the surrounding and actively trains for weeks/months while in the middle of a fight (Yes, in a middle of a fight. Dude just straight up brought dumbbells that are supposed to cause fatigue, and kept training while dodging his enemies' attacks for weeks/months). Also, can Snikch see Qi/Magic or stuff like that? His profile doesn't really mention it.

Oh and... can't Yoon just, use his law manip so that no one can hide or move? Since if he can't see his opponent, I don't see why he can't just use his law manip in order to reveal them or make them unable to hide. Albeit that might be a bit of a stretch, and is not likely to be a first move.

Well, the problem with Law Manipping is that Choi ALSO can't move or find Snikch, so really it's stalling for time

Last question: would Choi be able to just aurafuck a shuriken thrown at him? Catching ain't an option because uh... you see all that hax? Yeah those also apply to Snikch's shurikens.

 

[XDragnoir]

Golden King is made of Cracking.

Low 5-B GK has planetary range, he passively atomizes stuff like Critters, and it has layers too.

Quoting from his own profile:

Interdimensional (Same as before. In his Ultharathotep form, the Cracking Field can expand to eventually cover an entire planet and continued to expand even more)

Reason why I asked for the range at the start of the fight, the profile itself said it's not planet sized from the get go (and minor thing, both of his profile pics have a bunch of clouds around him, definitely means he wasn't atomizing everything in the world instantly).

 

[Rikimarox2]

Last question: would Choi be able to just aurafuck a shuriken thrown at him? Catching ain't an option because uh... you see all that hax? Yeah those also apply to Snikch's shurikens.

Your guess is as good as mine. I mean, his suppression is just his aura seeping into the air, increasing the concentration of the energy in the air to suppress everyone, so I'd assume it would work on a shuriken.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Your guess is as good as mine. I mean, his suppression is just his aura seeping into the air, increasing the concentration of the energy in the air to suppress everyone, so I'd assume it would work on a shuriken.

Well then it's strange cause like, matter-slicing shurikens...

How about they just tie because of how weird that interaction is?

 

[Rikimarox2]

Well then it's strange cause like, matter-slicing shurikens...

How about they just tie because of how weird that interaction is?

I'm fine with that. They can share the spot.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

@XDragnoir In Base he can atomize an Island with a glance, that's why he is 6-B. So, it's like tens of kilometers before his final form.

As for the eventually cover wording, that should probably be reworded, GK was in Base, then powered up, then it's noted that his power is stronger, and Tesla can't flee, cause now the Cracking Field is the size of the very world itself, and is continually expanding.

As for those clouds, the entire Cracking Field is in his control, it's even noted he controls even the Sky itself, and then it goes on about how GK warps reality and it s laws yada yada.

Wish youtube didn't nuke all the walkthroughs of Gahkthun, so I could show the sequence of events.

 

[Psychomaster35]

Alright, I've just thought about a hilarious choice to add here.

Black Hole for 7th strongest 4-A. As much of a pacifist as he is, he ironically defeats Dark Gaia and below thanks to his event horizon having passive deconstruction, the fact that he is 0-Dimensional which means he can't be hurt if they don't have any evidence of affecting that dimensionality, ant the fact he speedblitzes. Also, he has NPI that is capable of affecting nonexistent beings.

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

@Celestial_Pegasus The range thing definitely should be reworded yeah, plus maybe split it up I think for base pre Ul and Ultrathotep.

Kinda forgot how weird that rating has been there.

 

[Arkenis]

For 11th spot in 7-B I've put Kankuro Mitosaka (Manga), Kengo Uji (Manga), Hibari Zeze

For 11th spot in 7-A I've put Tasha Godspell

For 6th spot in High 7-C Gojo & Sukuna can share it with Shadow Man, I don't know much about Shadow Man but neither have the ability to deal with his regen and he seems haxxy enough to beat Sukuna at least though if anyone disagrees make a match to see.

 

[XDragnoir]

@XDragnoir In Base he can atomize an Island with a glance, that's why he is 6-B. So, it's like tens of kilometers before his final form.

That has rised quite a few questions to me, actually.

First there's this image where he was clearly looking at said island and it was still there.

2nd, why does this scale to his striking strength and AP in general? Isn't it an ability he specifically has through his eyes?

As for the eventually cover wording, that should probably be reworded, GK was in Base, then powered up, then it's noted that his power is stronger, and Tesla can't flee, cause now the Cracking Field is the size of the very world itself, and is continually expanding.

And was everything in the world atomized? Like, every person, building, etc? I don't mind a scan with the sky still blue (atomizing the atmosphere would probably change the color but who cares) but the one image I've seen has cloud on it (also, side question, but is is AoE or only from his eyes?).

As for those clouds, the entire Cracking Field is in his control, it's even noted he controls even the Sky itself, and then it goes on about how GK warps reality and it s laws yada yada.

I mean, that's cool and all but I only really care about the atomization part unless "ruling the sky" and "reshaping the world" have a more direct application that he could use against Ning.

You know, I just want to be extra sure he actually atomized everything in the planet passively and that his range is actually that much the very moment the fight starts.

Wish youtube didn't nuke all the walkthroughs of Gahkthun, so I could show the sequence of events.

That's sad.

 

[Arkenis]

8. Sasuke Uchiha

9. Travis Touchdown

Anyone know how Travis was put below Sasuke in high 7-A? Has time hax

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I nominate Darth Vader (Soul Calibur).

 

[Arkenis]

I nominate Darth Vader (Soul Calibur).

for 5-b or for his possibly 4-A?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

for 5-b or for his possibly 4-A?

5-B.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

@XDragnoir He wasn't actually looking at the Island. The "real" Golden King if we want to call it that was busy fighting Mathers within the Cracking Field, that's the only reason the Island was still intact.

He literally only has this as Ap in Base, it's only Ultharathotep where it scales since he fought Tesla, who is his equal.

Golden King didn't atomize the world, I never claimed that, I am claiming the range of his ability is planetary, the Cracking Field is a pocket dimension, which he has control of, it's not the real world, so there are no buildings or whatever.

Honestly these questions are a little weird if you have read the series, but I can't exactly fault you since it doesn't exist in a easily accessible place I can post.

If you look on his profile under durability negation there are scans which say simply by his presence alone he reduces things to particles, it has no heat nor mass etc.

Edit: I think the profile does need some clean up, to clear any confusion, like the wording on the range. Should also add on to it such as the stuff about Ultharathotep being the very embodiment of the world itself.

So I will work on it later.

 

[Arkenis]

5-B.

9. Characters from Record of Ragnarok (Beelzebub, Adam, and Zeus)

Would he take their spot or below?

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Professor Mortum for 11th 9-B, the moment you cause enough damage he will begin to evolve, going from 9-B to 5-A, in addition to good immortalities + Contact-based Drain

Max is beating World Leader in 5-A 10th, so Max steel characters took his place.

For 5-B Max steel Characters for 9th, Makino usually starts with Telekinesis so it would disarm Vader, half of 5-B people are immune to the effects of Soul Edge as they are machines, with the only exception being that they cannot deal with the BFR, however it is possible that they kill him before that

RoR characters are trashed by pure Ap, their invulnerability doesn't do shit because it's only for things created by man, they are aliens, canonically there is a sword that is invincible/indestructible to everything created by man and the way they destroyed it was through the loophole that it was limited to things created by man, not weapons amplified by technology Aliens, which applies here against Gods

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

why is deathmaster disucssed here? I am pretty sure he has smurf soul stuff like all things in warhammer due to soul being in the warp

 

[Psychomaster35]

Why did you place Black Hole tied with Dark Gaia? I said he defeats him, not stalemates with him.

 

[DaReaperMan]

why is deathmaster disucssed here? I am pretty sure he has smurf soul stuff like all things in warhammer due to soul being in the warp

We came to a concensus off-site that it was weird, it is but it isn't, basically.

 

[XDragnoir]

We came to a concensus off-site that it was weird, it is but it isn't, basically.

...

If it is, to any extent, then he shouldn't be here.

 

[DaReaperMan]

...

If it is, to any extent, then he shouldn't be here.

You can hit him with soulhax or mindhax and do just fine, a solid part of his soul is in the Realm of Chaos, so if that DQs him then sure.

 

[Tempestdragon6]

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