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Top 15 Strongest Characters for Every Tier

Question, How do we deal with summons?

Like a lower tier is able to summon a higher tier? Can that be used for in the lower tier for this tournament, or is it not allowed.

Also, if a character is capable of "summoning" a later key that has a higher tier, is that allowed to be used for the lower tier battle?

Setsuna_tenma said:
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Dark_Soul20189 said:
Question, How do we deal with summons?

Like a lower tier is able to summon a higher tier? Can that be used for in the lower tier for this tournament, or is it not allowed.

Also, if a character is capable of "summoning" a later key that has a higher tier, is that allowed to be used for the lower tier battle?
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Of course smurf summons are allowed.
 
Dark_Soul20189 said:
Question, How do we deal with summons?

Like a lower tier is able to summon a higher tier? Can that be used for in the lower tier for this tournament, or is it not allowed.

Also, if a character is capable of "summoning" a later key that has a higher tier, is that allowed to be used for the lower tier battle?
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Yes, this is Dunwich Horror entire gimmick, that rat bastard start off with summoning High 1-A daddy
 
Alright, my brain isn't dying so now I can type this.
  • So first up on the list is The Ultimate Sublimator Collective. They're a full-on Above Baseline 1-A Smurf when it comes to every single one of their abilities. This includes their Invulnerability, which negates physical attacks and damage, and their Nonduality, which in-verse makes them unaffected by basically every type of hax, whether it be normal, illusory, spiritual, reality, causal, probability, conceptual, etc, and their NEP, which is Type 2, is layered in all aspects. Offensively, they have almost every ability in the verse at their disposal and are essentially a 1-A God of themselves. By that, I mean, their body is one big universe/multiverse, and if at any point you go inside of their body, they have full authority to obliterate you in every possible way, including Concept Type 1, 2 & 3, Law, Information, Reality, Power Nullification and Modification, Death, Existence Erasure, etc.
    • So yeah they should get #2 in Low 2-C. From what I can tell there's really nothing the Chaos Gods can do in their Low 2-C Key. All their hax gets nullified or just doesn't affect the Sublimator, on the other hand, the Sublimator can affect them without issue. The only problem would probably be their Immortality, but seeing how zero-explanation was given, and their Regen isn't even High-Godly, the Sublimator can easily deal with Type 1 through 9.
  • Secondly, we have the True Gods, like Israel Diamond.
    • They should get #2 in Varies. So apparently Nyarlothep is Baseline High 1-A, which means the True Gods get to abuse the hell out of Joshua's Blessing. The Cthulhu Mythos just doesn't have good enough hax or resistances to combat it since they mostly just have to exist to win matches.
Next time this verse pops up here, it will either be because the Tiering System was updated and every verse got downgraded (Except this one, cause it's built different), or I finished the 3rd Novel and upgraded the verse to Tier 0. So you know, look forward to that.
 
ActuallySpaceMan42 said:
Alright, my brain isn't dying so now I can type this.
  • So first up on the list is The Ultimate Sublimator Collective. They're a full-on Above Baseline 1-A Smurf when it comes to every single one of their abilities. This includes their Invulnerability, which negates physical attacks and damage, and their Nonduality, which in-verse makes them unaffected by basically every type of hax, whether it be normal, illusory, spiritual, reality, causal, probability, conceptual, etc, and their NEP, which is Type 2, is layered in all aspects. Offensively, they have almost every ability in the verse at their disposal and are essentially a 1-A God of themselves. By that, I mean, their body is one big universe/multiverse, and if at any point you go inside of their body, they have full authority to obliterate you in every possible way, including Concept Type 1, 2 & 3, Law, Information, Reality, Power Nullification and Modification, Death, Existence Erasure, etc.
    • So yeah they should get #2 in Low 2-C. From what I can tell there's really nothing the Chaos Gods can do in their Low 2-C Key. All their hax gets nullified or just doesn't affect the Sublimator, on the other hand, the Sublimator can affect them without issue. The only problem would probably be their Immortality, but seeing how zero-explanation was given, and their Regen isn't even High-Godly, the Sublimator can easily deal with Type 1 through 9.
  • Secondly, we have the True Gods, like Israel Diamond.
    • They should get #2 in Varies. So apparently Nyarlothep is Baseline High 1-A, which means the True Gods get to abuse the hell out of Joshua's Blessing. The Cthulhu Mythos just doesn't have good enough hax or resistances to combat it since they mostly just have to exist to win matches.
Next time this verse pops up here, it will either be because the Tiering System was updated and every verse got downgraded (Except this one, cause it's built different), or I finished the 3rd Novel and upgraded the verse to Tier 0. So you know, look forward to that.
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I have barely read the third book but su zhou did not surpass the transcendants from what i've understand (the end was very metaphoric) so idk if it is possible to up the verse boundless. (And the 4th book is not related to the others novels)
 
Nexus_still_slams said:
I have barely read the third book but su zhou did not surpass the transcendants from what i've understand (the end was very metaphoric) so idk if it is possible to up the verse boundless.
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He doesn't need to. It expands on stuff that I was too confused about to properly Tier.
Nexus_still_slams said:
(And the 4th book is not related to the others novels)
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Yes, it is. It happens in the Sealed Multiverse though.
 
ActuallySpaceMan42 said:
Alright, my brain isn't dying so now I can type this.
  • So first up on the list is The Ultimate Sublimator Collective. They're a full-on Above Baseline 1-A Smurf when it comes to every single one of their abilities. This includes their Invulnerability, which negates physical attacks and damage, and their Nonduality, which in-verse makes them unaffected by basically every type of hax, whether it be normal, illusory, spiritual, reality, causal, probability, conceptual, etc, and their NEP, which is Type 2, is layered in all aspects. Offensively, they have almost every ability in the verse at their disposal and are essentially a 1-A God of themselves. By that, I mean, their body is one big universe/multiverse, and if at any point you go inside of their body, they have full authority to obliterate you in every possible way, including Concept Type 1, 2 & 3, Law, Information, Reality, Power Nullification and Modification, Death, Existence Erasure, etc.
    • So yeah they should get #2 in Low 2-C. From what I can tell there's really nothing the Chaos Gods can do in their Low 2-C Key. All their hax gets nullified or just doesn't affect the Sublimator, on the other hand, the Sublimator can affect them without issue. The only problem would probably be their Immortality, but seeing how zero-explanation was given, and their Regen isn't even High-Godly, the Sublimator can easily deal with Type 1 through 9.
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Is that 3 layers into 1-A? Cause ALL of the Chaos Gods' hax are 3 layers into 1-A. Just "being above baseline" isn't enough to handle them anymore.
ActuallySpaceMan42 said:
  • Secondly, we have the True Gods, like Israel Diamond.
    • They should get #2 in Varies. So apparently Nyarlothep is Baseline High 1-A, which means the True Gods get to abuse the hell out of Joshua's Blessing. The Cthulhu Mythos just doesn't have good enough hax or resistances to combat it since they mostly just have to exist to win matches.
Next time this verse pops up here, it will either be because the Tiering System was updated and every verse got downgraded (Except this one, cause it's built different), or I finished the 3rd Novel and upgraded the verse to Tier 0. So you know, look forward to that.
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Nyar is obliterating a Baseline High 1-A by noticing them soooo
 
DaReaperMan said:
Is that 3 layers into 1-A? Cause ALL of the Chaos Gods' hax are 3 layers into 1-A. Just "being above baseline" isn't enough to handle them anymore.
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Joshua's Blessing goes brrr.
DaReaperMan said:
Nyar is obliterating a Baseline High 1-A by noticing them soooo
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Unless Nyar is layers into High 1-A, which based on the Cosmology Page, they're not, then Joshua's Blessing takes care of any ability Nyar has.
 
Just put chinamen gods in 1st place in variable rating. SCP is basically a dead man walking, but you have to see if they win against chutullu mythos
 
DaReaperMan said:
Doesn't matter if it ain't over 3 layers Into 1-A, that's my point. Plus they can't interact with the CGs or their powers, the CGs have like six different AE1 interaction and every NEP2 requirements to even interact
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Joshua blessing is High 1-A fate manipulation If I am correct
 
DaReaperMan said:
Doesn't matter if it ain't over 3 layers Into 1-A, that's my point. Plus they can't interact with the CGs or their powers, the CGs have like six different AE1 interaction and every NEP2 requirements to even interact
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And to list them for AE1 you require the following:
  1. Concepts
  2. Contradictions
  3. Thoughts
  4. Ideas
  5. Metaphors
  6. Contradictions
Each of them you require an interaction feat towards, and that's missing the fact that you need Acasuality 5 interaction to permanently get rid of their true forms, which is it's own bag of fuckery in of itself!
 
DaReaperMan said:
And to list them for AE1 you require the following:
  1. Concepts
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He's done that within the first 300 Chapters.
DaReaperMan said:
  1. Contradictions
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Even the Sublimator could destroy a world made purely of duality, nonduality, and contradiction, let alone Joshua.
DaReaperMan said:
  1. Thoughts
  2. Ideas
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2-A Beings made of thoughts and ideas get murked by Low 1-C Info Hax in-verse, let alone Joshua.
DaReaperMan said:
  1. Metaphors
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Guess who can interact with memes... It's Joshua.
DaReaperMan said:
Each of them you require an interaction feat towards, and that's missing the fact that you need Acasuality 5 interaction to permanently get rid of their true forms, which is it's own bag of fuckery in of itself!
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Guess who has the most straight forward Acausality Type 5 on the wiki... It's Joshua.
 
ActuallySpaceMan42 said:
He's done that within the first 300 Chapters.

Even the Sublimator could destroy a world made purely of duality, nonduality, and contradiction, let alone Joshua.

2-A Beings made of thoughts and ideas get murked by Low 1-C Info Hax in-verse, let alone Joshua.

Guess who can interact with memes... It's Joshua.

Guess who has the most straight forward Acausality Type 5 on the wiki... It's Joshua.
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There we go, all that was needed to claim the spot lol
 
Honkai Impact as a verse just went off the rails and sent on the Deletion Express, so its people need to be removed from the lists.

(Yes I am using terrible train puns).
 
Eseseso said:
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Profile Deletion Requests Thread (New forum)

@GarrixianXD The fact you had to delete it four times (one of them being the most of 3), it was a given they had to get NUKED too cuz it was blatant trolling at this rate/point if not already. Eh, 3 months was honestly just me preventing them from spamming troll pages. I'd rather leave the real...
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All the pages are already gone.
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there wasn't any single CRT?
 
Nexus_still_slams said:
I have barely read the third book but su zhou did not surpass the transcendants from what i've understand (the end was very metaphoric) so idk if it is possible to up the verse boundless. (And the 4th book is not related to the others novels)
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In the External Transmission, Su zhou became a great being
 
Damn shame about Honkai Impact 3rd though I'm sure it's gonna come back better than ever.

Also Fire Emblem seems to have officially been accepted as 6-D. As such "Characters from Fire Emblem" take Blazblue's spot in Low 1-C for now. It's crazy how once upon a time Nintendo verses were cursed to be in Tier 2 purgatory and now have three franchises that not only reach Low 1-C but are 6-D, (Pokemon, Xenoblade, and now Fire Emblem)
 
AlphaOmegaV1 said:
Damn shame about Honkai Impact 3rd though I'm sure it's gonna come back better than ever.

Also Fire Emblem seems to have officially been accepted as 6-D. As such "Characters from Fire Emblem" take Blazblue's spot in Low 1-C for now. It's crazy how once upon a time Nintendo verses were cursed to be in Tier 2 purgatory and now have three franchises that not only reach Low 1-C but are 6-D, (Pokemon, Xenoblade, and now Fire Emblem)
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Been trying to get Zi-O in Dark Seid spot via the fact that he ain't doing shit to Zi-O. A fodder 6-D already stomp Darkseid yet nothing are being done.
 
AlphaOmegaV1 said:
Damn shame about Honkai Impact 3rd though I'm sure it's gonna come back better than ever.

Also Fire Emblem seems to have officially been accepted as 6-D. As such "Characters from Fire Emblem" take Blazblue's spot in Low 1-C for now. It's crazy how once upon a time Nintendo verses were cursed to be in Tier 2 purgatory and now have three franchises that not only reach Low 1-C but are 6-D, (Pokemon, Xenoblade, and now Fire Emblem)
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Too bad they really have no hax.

And Sonic is in Smash and crossed over with Mario so he's kind of a Nintendo verse
 
Eseseso said:
Too bad they really have no hax.

And Sonic is in Smash and crossed over with Mario so he's kind of a Nintendo verse
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Well, at least compared to everyone else since Low 1-C is an ocean filled with Sharks. I wouldn't call them completely haxless though, until a major hax revision is done they aren't touching anyone else above them, but they've got some good stuff like your Player OC, Freyja here, and those who control the Tempest

Also while I'm at it Guilty Gear also got upgraded to High 5-A so take them out of 5-A and throw them in High 5-A. As for their placement, Time Slippers like I-No and Axl Low have Type 2 Acausality meaning EBF's Passive Fate Hax gets no sold unless they've got feats of affecting Type 2's. Characters are also capable of one shotting with layered hax that's been accepted, and Guilty Gear also has 5-D Shenanigans though Plot Hax might be a problem.

They're also going through some additional hax revisions which will grant even more stuff. So they can maybe share the spot with Epic Battle Fantasy?

So all in all the High 5-A list should go like this
1. Xue Ying
2. Chutulu (Cthulu Saves the World)
3. Anos Voligoad
4. Du Tian
5. Characters from Epic Battle Fantasy/Characters from Guilty Gear
6. Characters from Sailor Moon (Manga)
7. Kang Han Soo
8. Characters from Final Fantasy VI
9. Amon (Starcraft)
10. Wang Ling
 
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Beelzebub (Granblue Fantasy)

A Singularity just like Captain who possesses the power of Primal Beast, Astral Magic, and Chaos who is responsible for Lucifer's Death and the only known entity who managed to climb back up to Sky-realm from the Crimson Horizon. Obsessed with becoming the supreme being, he wields a substance...
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for low 1-C
has 7D hax with Avatar's power and can reborn himself into 7D if destroyed by a stronger power outright using the power that destroyed him to reborn himself
gains high godly regen and NEP type 2 this way
+ his go to move is Chaos Legion which is Erasure to Type 2 NEP that includes info, concept, history/causality
 
Eseseso said:
Shame too, I liked them. Nice little smurf verse.

Was honestly contemplating doing matchups between them and Toaru, since both happened to have 11D hax/cosmology.
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I've never been so happy that a verse got deleted before match ups were done.

Jokes aside tho, Toaru wasn't nearly as broken as Honkai (which may or may not have something to do with their profiles being wanked, going by a CRT I saw months ago), so no match ups would have worked one way or another.
 
XDragnoir said:
I've never been so happy that a verse got deleted before match ups were done.

Jokes aside tho, Toaru wasn't nearly as broken as Honkai (which may or may not have something to do with their profiles being wanked, going by a CRT I saw months ago), so no match ups would have worked one way or another.
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But come on, how often will you see two verses above low 1-C with the same dimensionalities?

Also kinda surprised Toaru isn't as broken as Honkai given that they are both 11-D smurfs.
 
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