Toei Tokusatsu High 1-C Cosmology Upgrade

[Minaaaa]

Braneworlds​

In the series Engine Sentai Go-Onger, the robot Bomper states that the world is composed of 11 dimensions that exist on membranes

And then goes onto say the worlds are layered upon each other like the layers of a cake

Furthermore, it goes on to state the worlds exist on a space called 'Main World' (Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20100522180928/http://www.tv-asahi.co.jp/go-on/contents/past_story/0009)

This is an allusion to Brane Cosmology, specifically M-Theory with its 11 dimensions and the mentions of membrane and the allusion to a bulk. Also coincides with the braneworlds being depicted as flat or sheets.

But, this isn't all the evidence so i'll go more in depth.

Shinkenger Vs Go-Onger​

In the Shinkenger/Go-Onger crossover movie, the movie villain Batcheed was trying to use gas to pollute all 11 braneworlds.

What’s significant about this is that he needed an endless/infinite amount of gas to accomplish this.

蛮機族ガイアーク あらゆる世界を汚そうと企てる、邪悪 な一族。 バッチリウムプラントを建造毒ガスを無限に生産しようとした。
Barbarian race Gaiark An evil clan that plots to defile all worlds. I built a batchlium plant and tried to produce an infinite amount of poison gas.

So we can say that each braneworld is infinite in size and that the bulk that encompasses them is also infinite.

Also it states that the humans live in the Human World braneworld (This will be important later) (source: https://www.toei.co.jp/tv/go-kai/story/1196970_1843.html)

Juukou B-Fighter​

Moving on to the final part of this, we have the series Juukou B-Fighter. Nothing really is interesting, besides a statement made by the main villain, Gaohm.
He says that he was born in the bends of dimensional space.

What’s interesting about this is that the B-Fighter Chozenshu mentions the existence of a dimensional universe.

ガオーム ジャマール首領。その正体は、次元宇宙の歪みから生まれ邪悪な生命体。周囲に適合できず、うとまれ続けたガオームは、永遠の命を手に入れ、全次元を支配しようとした。
Gaom. The leader of Jamal. His true identity is that of an evil life form born from a distortion of the dimensional universe. Unable to conform to his surroundings, Gaom has been despised and has attempted to gain eternal life and dominate all dimensions.

Also to add, in the 35th episode of B-Fighter Kabuto, Mother Melzard states Gaohm was born between dimensions

Meaning he was born from a distortion between dimensional universes.

What’s more interesting is that he tries to break through dimensional walls so that the Jamahl Hole will appear in Earth’s Dimension.

Finally, we can say that the Human Braneworld and thus all the Braneworlds are dimensional universes.

This would put the entire structure of the cosmology at High 1-C

Vote Count​

Agree:

Neutral: @Vietthai96

Disagree: @Kisaragi_Megumi

 

[TokiNoOuja]

Seems good at glance but anyway how does higher dimensions in M-theory?

 

[Minaaaa]

Seems good at glance but anyway how does higher dimensions in M-theory?

m theory works on the theory of the branes existing in a higher dimensional space

 

[BERRIES555]

If this goes through, who would this scale to? I would assume Gokaiger and those who scale to them.

 

[Minaaaa]

If this goes through, who would this scale to? I would assume Gokaiger and those who scale to them.

Just characters like gaim and oma.

 

[BERRIES555]

Alright, nice nice.

You should dm Ovens or anyone who’s knowledge in higher D stuff

 

[Fixxed]

The dimension not encompasses other and bigger than other. It just like the 11 dimension is just a 11 another worlds or 11 parallel world

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Tbh this is feels like a big stretch but i'll let the others evaluate this first

 

[Robo432343]

if only there was a statement where it says that each layer is bigger than the last or smth
unless dimensions are accepted as qualitatively superior to each other in the verse

 

[Minaaaa]

The dimension not encompasses other and bigger than other. It just like the 11 dimension is just a 11 another worlds or 11 parallel world

this doesnt apply for brane dimensions

 

[Minaaaa]

bump

 

[TokiNoOuja]

m theory works on the theory of the branes existing in a higher dimensional space

And what is Branes?

 

[Minaaaa]

And what is Branes?

 

[Fixxed]

this doesnt apply for brane dimensions

Bruh... brane cosmology is theory of large extradimensional space, where our universe exist in even large space a higher D space. How can be the 11D is just a another world that even not have proof it larger than the standard universe model

 

[Minaaaa]

Bruh... brane cosmology is theory of large extradimensional space, where our universe exist in even large space a higher D space. How can be the 11D is just a another world that even not have proof it larger than the standard universe model

The post goes over this. The worlds exist on membranes with those memebranes existing on a space called main world

 

[Fixxed]

The post goes over this. The worlds exist on membranes with those memebranes existing on a space called main world

Which is i ask for the 11 dimension that it literally show it just other worlds not higher worlds

 

[Minaaaa]

Which is i ask for the 11 dimension that it literally show it just other worlds not higher worlds

Brane cosmology itself is already higher dimensional

 

[Kamenriderblaze]

actually it been said before and well it is not accepted

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

actually it been said before and well it is not accepted

Oh yeah, now i remember that one

Put me on disagree then

 

[Sir_Ovens]

My issue with this is that the brane worlds aren't exactly dimensionally superior to each other. Characters from other brane worlds can enter the human one and they're not infinitely larger or more powerful.

 

[Minaaaa]

I think it should be fine based on our standards.

A: One of the more straightforward ways to qualify for Tier 2 and up through higher dimensions is by affecting whole higher-dimensional universes which can embed the whole of lower-dimensional ones within themselves. For example: A cosmology where the entirety of our 3-dimensional universe is in fact a subset of a much greater 4-dimensional space, or generalizations of this same scenario to higher numbers of dimensions; i.e A cosmology where the four-dimensional spacetime continuum is just the infinitesimal surface of a 5-dimensional object, and etc.

 

[Minaaaa]

bump

 

[Minaaaa]

Bump

 

[Firestorm808]

Bump

"i.e A cosmology where the four-dimensional spacetime continuum is just the infinitesimal surface of a 5-dimensional object, and etc."

Can you reiterate your example for this size comparison you are using?

 

[Minaaaa]

Since the worlds exist on a membrane, this would mean the braneworlds each house a universe inside them. Since space in the verse is infinite, this would make the universes infinite in size. This goes into the braneworlds themselves being infinite as Batcheed needed infinite gas to cover all of them, which would mean the bulk encompassing them would also be infinite as well.

 

[Gasper]

Yeah nah i disagree too. There is no prove for R>F transcendence or anything similar.

 

[Vietthai96]

lmao, no offense but that statement about there is 11 worlds contradicted the previous statements about 11-d membrane M-theory cosmology, completely destroy the arguments for High 1-C. so the 11 dimensions isn't refering to a significantly large 11-dimensional axes that is M-theory, but just simply just 11 parallel world, dimensions that positioned as layered, and even then each layer isn't superior to the one below. So yeah i disagree

 

[Minaaaa]

The entire structure of the multiverse (the bulk/main world) would be 11d. 'Membranes', '11 dimensions' and a larger space are already an obvious implication to brane cosmology, even more so with the mentions of a 'dimensional universe.' Brane cosmology doesn't follow R>F or superiority since the theory says our universe exists on a higher dimensional brane in a larger space.

 

[Firestorm808]

To clarify, are these 11 Brane Worlds infinitely larger that the previous one?

 

[Minaaaa]

Its unknown if they are

 

[Firestorm808]

Then we can't say this is 11 levels of Infinite Superiority.

 

[Minaaaa]

Except brane cosmology has never used infinite superiority. The core of it is already higher dimensional

 

[Firestorm808]

If not 11 levels of infinite superiority, then what are you deriving High 1-C from?

 

[Minaaaa]

High 1-C is from the 11 dimensions with the brane cosmology application.

 

[Firestorm808]

High 1-C is from the 11 dimensions with the brane cosmology application.

You just said that it's unknown if the 11 dimensions are superior to each other.

 

[Minaaaa]

Yes? This doesn’t go against anything. The bulk is 11d, not the branes. They’re membranes existing in the 11d bulk

 

[Firestorm808]

So the 11 levels of superiority of the "Bulk Space" comes from just the theory itself, not directly suggested in the show?

 

[Robo432343]

To clarify, are these 11 Brane Worlds infinitely larger that the previous one?

even being infinitely larger than the previous one isn't enough for qualitative superiority
"The reason it is called qualitative superiority is that, instead of quantitative terms such as being 2 times, 100 times or even infinite times more powerful or greater, this type of superiority is typically justified by the nature of the superiority. "

 

[Firestorm808]

even being infinitely larger than the previous one isn't enough for qualitative superiority
"The reason it is called qualitative superiority is that, instead of quantitative terms such as being 2 times, 100 times or even infinite times more powerful or greater, this type of superiority is typically justified by the nature of the superiority. "

I know. I mean infinitely superior in size.

 

[Vietthai96]

High 1-C is from the 11 dimensions with the brane cosmology application.

You completely ignore those later scan talking that, 11 dimensions isn't literal 11 dimensional axes that belong to brane cosmology or M-theory. It is simply 11 parallel worlds, that mean those dimension statement only refering to world, universe, realm not literal dimension, it complete retcon the High 1-C argument