TIME for a new 2-B Fight! (2-7-2)

[Apatheticskell]

Actually no. He can't negate Azzy's load ability because when he resets Dialga would forget that he killed Asriel at all and he wouldn't be aware if Asriel has the ability.

 

[Overlord775]

Diallga is the embodiment of time, time rewind won't do anything to him and he can just tell time to not get rewinded, especially since Dialga embodies his concept on a much larger scale than Asriel's range

Also the members of the CT doesn't need their souls to survive, so destroying or absorbing it will not do anything

It's a stomp

 

[Apatheticskell]

Actually I'm assuming both are bloodlusted.

Asriel can only get one chance from save and load otherwise Dialga would negate it if he did it twice.

However Asriel can use his information manipulation and wipe all memories that Dialga has.

Pokemon don't have Mid-godly so they need a SOUL. Sides Asriel has existence erasure.

 

[Apatheticskell]

If Frisk cansurvive 4-D Attack Sand Asriel can nullify their dura he can do the same to Dialga. Even if Dialga is 4xD it won't matter because Frisk had 4-D Stats and Asriel can use power null against them.

 

[Overlord775]

Standard Battle Assumptions = not bloodlusted

Dialga negged time travel, which should be vastly more difficult to neg that time rewind.

The CT doesn't have mid-godly regen because they don't have regenerative abilities, they can't regenerate their own soul and such, but they can survive without it since they were born without one and only got it later on.

Dialga is uneffected by singular members of the lake trio, one of which has information based mind wipe, so that won't work on him.

Asriel's attacks bypass durability via soul manipulation and his power null only nulls physical movement

Also the EE would work, but it's vastly more likely that Dialga splats him before he uses it

 

[Apatheticskell]

Who had information mind wipe?

 

[Overlord775]

Uxie

 

[Apatheticskell]

Pretty sure Asriel removes all memories from the SOUL while Uxie removes all of it from the mind.

Soul =/= Mind.

 

[Dragopentling]

Does Asriel need to target mind first and then the soul, though? Or Soul directly?

 

[Apatheticskell]

Soul directly.

 

[Dragopentling]

I see, though I don't see why Dialga wont just go obliterating him with Roar of Time unless Asriel has Time Manipulation resistance.

 

[Apatheticskell]

Asriel just memory wipes Dialga and one-shots his SOUL.

 

[Dragopentling]

And you're saying Dialga can't do anything to prevent that from happening first?

 

[Apatheticskell]

Dialga kills Asriel. Azzy resets. Then Asriel Memory wipes his soul and one-shots it.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Dialga FRA.

Frisk isn't a 4D being, she's 3D with 4D powers. There is a difference.

 

[TheImagineBreaker121212]

i'm at a inconclusive.........

 

[Dragopentling]

i'm at a inconclusive.........

Nice name, btw

 

[TheImagineBreaker121212]

i'm at a inconclusive.........

Nice name, btw

thanks

 

[Overlord775]

Dialga kills Asriel. Azzy resets. Then Asriel Memory wipes his soul and one-shots it.

Dialga negates the reset from happening

also it was never stated how Asriel did the memory wipe, you can't just assume it's soul based, so Dilga would resist it via not bieng affectable by Uxie's info hax

also he only shown to be able to use it against being he absorbed

and against, CT don't need their soul to survive, destroying it will do nothing to him

 

[Apatheticskell]

Asriel needed to absorb the SOULs to memory wipe them.

If Dialga is unaware of the reset he won't neg it.

 

[WHYNAUT]

Dialga FRA.

 

[Drite77]

The Reset is listed as Time Travel. So Dialga will noticed if someone tries to go back in time, and will negate that

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Dialga FRA.

 

[TheArsenal1212]

Grace time

 

[Dragopentling]

The Reset is listed as Time Travel. So Dialga will noticed if someone tries to go back in time, and will negate that

When you think about it, when Celebi or anyone time travels, it kinda is a "reset" in itself, and because of that, Time Doge will sense it and address it according to threat level. There's a reason why Flowey got almost ROFL stomped by Dialga in a previous but still relevant thread, and a partial reason why Palkia did the same to Flowey. I mean, I'm aware of the not-so-old discussions regarding Flowey's nerfing, but his basic stuff is still the same even if revisions are implemented.

 

[Xerkser500]

The CT doesn't have mid-godly regen because they don't have regenerative abilities, they can't regenerate their own soul and such, but they can survive without it since they were born without one and only got it later o.

Noticed this.

When has it ever been actually stated that the CT were given souls post-creation? Because it seems rather silly to just assume they were slapped on with a soul when they were born without them in the 1st place.

 

[Overlord775]

Noticed this.

When has it ever been actually stated that the CT were given souls post-creation? Because it seems rather silly to just assume they were slapped on with a soul when they were born without them in the 1st place.

The lake trio gave souls to the multiverse, which we assume also includes the creation trio

 

[ZellTemplar55]

Dialga FRA

 

[Xerkser500]

The lake trio gave souls to the multiverse, which we assume also includes the creation trio

That makes absolutely no sense, no offense.

Just because the CT embody the multiverse doesn't mean they were given souls just like the LT gave to regular people and pokemon. We need explict proof that they did.

That would be like saying the CT can't breathe in outer space because the people in the multiverse they embody can't breathe in outer space.

 

[Dragopentling]

what's the vote count right now?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Xersker500 is right.

If the CT had no souls, then they would remain soulless unless proven otherwise.

Can't assume things when there's zero evidence for it.

 

[SpinodragonX]

Why can't Asriel just Hyper Goner Dialga out of existense? My mind can be changed, but for now I stand to that point.

 

[SpinodragonX]

Also, what does FRA mean?

 

[Planck69]

Could you stop necroing outdated threads?

And Asriel can't Hyper Goner Dialga because he's far weaker.

For Reasons Above.

 

[Everything12]

Dialga also got Immunity to Soul Manipulation added in the time since this thread was last active so it's probably a stomp now.