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"Beyond Omipotence" doesn't mean anything. Suggsverse gets so overrated because it overuses the word omnipotent a lot, which backfires and makes guys who are even more omnipotent simply stronger than the other guy who was called omnipotent. It's just a word used to describe how powerful a dude is in Suggsverse. If they truly were omipoten, then speed wouldn't be relevant at all to them right? Well Suggs just loves to show how fast his apparently 'omipotent' characters are, which goes against what being omnipotent is in the first place, as if they truly were omipotent then the very concept of speed would have no bearing on them.

And just because a character is called omnipotent, doesn't mean it actually is. An example is Odin, who was called omnipotent, or even Alien X. Guess Ben 10 is Tier 0 now.

Now the Lovecraft Mythos is somewhat of an exception. If you were to remove Azathoth, then Yog-sothoth would be the actual questionable omnipotent, and if you remove him, then probably Shub-Niggurath would be next. All the way down to Nyarlathotep. As these beings are seemingly only limited in any way by the ones above them. This works for other similar cosmologies, if there are any in different verses.
 
But then SMT just dies to the Mythos, Masadaverse, Umineko, DC and maybe even Warhammer 40k if there isn't a proper 1-A chain. I would rather SMT be a big fish in a small pond, then freaking plankton.
 
holy shit, isnt that a bit much, like i cant even think of enough characters to fill these tiers. i mean who will fill them up?
 
Penultimate Pataverse Wiki and Verses and Dimensions can fill those tiers real fast.
 
Overlord4896 said:
there are levels of tier 0 it was discussed in the gan upgrade thread, they were thinking of creating a new tier, tier S, for the highest tier 0s which included : the creator, feathrine, law of identity (idk why she is included), Azathoth and Yog sothoth.
So what you're saying is, taking out High 1-A was bullshit?
 
@Sera Ex. Fair enough they definitaly could, verses and dimensions wiki cosmology is Aids but is really insane.

@Zephyros. ahhhhhhhhhh no comment.
 
Taking out High 1-A was sort of a bad idea. Now we have multiple tier 0s. I mean we just need to stop saying Tier 0s needed omniscience to be Tier 0. That's all. No fictional character is strictly omniscient.
 
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but seriously tier 0 needs to be extremely exclusive, so its probably for the best to have omnipresense and omniscense as requirments atleast.
 
Or even High tier SSSS+ or we go max power with Tier Azathoth, He's so strong he get his own tier.
 
Taking out High 1-A was a mistake.


Also does anyone remember the time the Mythos had THREE high 1-As?
 
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