This time Goku'll have to kick the Dragon Balls!

[The_Calaca]

Low 6-B Goku vs Human Acnologia

No Dragon transformation.

Speed unequalized unless blitzing.

Ki and Magic aren't verse equalized.

Win via any means.

Battleground: Hidden Leaf Village (bcs yes).

Who wins and why?

 

[The_Calaca]

Bump.

 

[The_Calaca]

Bump.

 

[Ywlrvl]

I read/watched Fairy Tail a while ago and stopped...

Goku 6/10 for me. If Goku's fast enough to fire a solar flare to stagger Acnologia, and charge up a Kamehameha wave, then Goku wins. Seems very unlikely though.

 

[The_Calaca]

Goku: 1 (Kuroiha).

Acno: 0.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Since Acno has the AP advantage I'm going to vote for him since he should be slightly faster with bigger AOE attacks. Acno has his explosion aura if Goku gets in close and his telekinesis will keep Goku away while he can use his magic blasts. Acno also has soul absorbtion but I don't think we've ever been shown how it works so it might not be combat applicable.

 

[The_Calaca]

Goku: 1 (Kuroiha).

Acno: 1 (DragonEmperor23).

 

[The_Calaca]

Energy's aren't verse equalized.

 

[Graf_Thorsdottir]

Is Acno 33 times stronger than dragon Irene? If not Goku stomps

/thread

 

[DragonEmperor23]

goku's small country+ and Acno's pretty much Large country

 

[Graf_Thorsdottir]

> Human Acno

> Not stated it's post RoT

 

[The_Calaca]

Human Acnologia is High 6-C. Goku is Low 6-B.

 

[Graf_Thorsdottir]

Human Acnologia is High 6-C. Goku is Low 6-B.

Yeah? Goku tanked a blast 33 times stronger than Irene's meteor and kept fighting.

Oh and also Acno blitzs

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Goku's durability is small country+ though. Are we using Human Acno post or pre Ravines of Time?

 

[DragonEmperor23]

oof how is Acno going to hurt him then

 

[The_Calaca]

Pre. Just Human Acno.

Goku's Small Country+ Dura still higher than Acno's Large Island AP. I don't get your point.

 

[The_Calaca]

How far in the MHS+ are they?

 

[Graf_Thorsdottir]

Goku's Small Country+ Dura still higher than Acno's Large Island AP

Which is what I said. Unless Acno's 33x stronger than Irene, he breaks his arms as he blizts and tries to punch Goku

 

[Schnee_One]

How far in the MHS+ are they?

Mach 1200 vs someone who blitzes Mach 4700

Also yeah, this match is dumb

 

[Akreious]

Where'd the mach 1200 come from?

The reasonings for Goku's speed are either Mach 950 (Low-End) or Mach 1784. Goku is unquantifiably faster since he actually outsped said blasts.

 

[Schnee_One]

Ah I see, so he still gets blitzed until he glances in Acno's direction

 

[Ywlrvl]

Didn't OP say "Speed unequalized unless blitzing"?

 

[Akreious]

Actually, no. Taking Goku's high end and comparing it with Ac, it's only a 2.6x Difference. Nowhere near a speed blitz at all. Sure, a big advange, but not a blitz.

 

[The_Calaca]

So Goku can't tag Acno but Acno can't hurt Goku. Carajo...

 

[Akreious]

Why can't Goku tag Acno? Sure it'll be hard, but 2.6x speed difference will not make it so it's completely impossible to hit your target. Plus, all you need is one hit.

 

[Graf_Thorsdottir]

You forgot Erza did that with nearly all her bones broken. August who's superior to her failed to see Acno casually swiping God Serena

 

[The_Calaca]

Well speed is equalized but the deal is that Acno can't properly hurt Goku. And if the speed is equal Goku can one-shot him without issues.

 

[Graf_Thorsdottir]

Hence, stomp thread

 

[Akreious]

With Goku's massive AP Advantage, couldn't goku just sort of go...

 

[Schnee_One]

Well speed is equalized but the deal is that Acno can't properly hurt Goku. And if the speed is equal Goku can one-shot him without issues.

Why in the absolute god did you make this if you knew he couldn't hurt him?

Spite levels maximum.

 

[The_Calaca]

Yeah and Acno'd be one shotted. That's the point. Goku wins with no diff. It's a stomp.

 

[Akreious]

Aight then. we're all in agreement. Lets close this.

 

[The_Calaca]

Why in the absolute god did you make this if you knew he couldn't hurt him?
Spite levels maximum.

I didn't knew it. I don't know where I can see the stats if they aren't linked to the profiles. As far as I know, Acno could be almost Low 6-B and Goku baseline Low 6-B. That's not the case though.

 

[Schnee_One]

There's a + sign at the end of the AP for a reason

And even ignoring that calcs exist.

 

[The_Calaca]

I don't ignore the calcs. I just can't find them...

 

[Akreious]

It's the blue text.

 

[The_Calaca]

I mean, in these profiles the blue text only links to other characters profiles. And their profiles links to other profiles with the "scales to" argument with no explanation or stats. And many profiles links to the previous profile so... it's kinda difficult find the stats to me.

 

[Akreious]

"I mean, in these profiles the blue text only links to other characters profiles."

That's immediately false, seeing as I can find calcs on most.

"And their profiles links to other profiles with the "scales to" argument with no explanation or stats."

While yes, this happens, Goku's page lacks this problem.

"And many profiles links to the previous profile so... it's kinda difficult find the stats to me."

... wat

 

[The_Calaca]

I saw some profiles where A character scales to B character and B's profile states that B scales to A. I don't remember the profiles.

But nevermind. This thread must be closed anyways.

 

[Ywlrvl]

So who wins this time?