Right, I'll do this properly.
I want to point out right off the bat that this assumes that humans also have 9D souls, since it literally states "every human has such" in reference to the soul. Also, there is no mention of Chaos in this whatsoever, which a bulk of your later arguments hinge on.
I'm sure most of the people reading this are familiar with this statement. as it gave us important information about souls in DMC. that they're 9th Dimensional objects. however, the statement does mention a higher dimensional realm that the souls originate from. said realm exists in the primordial chaos since that's where demons originated (which are souls fundamentally)
This is headcanon; at least up to this point. Structuring your argument like this is borderline disingenuous since you have yet to actually prove that the realm where souls originate from and return to is in fact Chaos.
Ok, cool. Nice High-Godly Regeneration feat. Also if their 9D soul is erased and they can come back isn't that like a better feat?
PoCs primordial Chaos sounds like it's something connected to the original world which is the only thing that predates the demon world as it is known now and is stated to be a container/crucible of chaos and which later became the known as the demon world.
here are the raw scans for that translated by redXIII[2]. and for good measure
here are the official translations aswell. given that's the only reference we have to this chaos in the DMC verse outside of PoC. we could infer the original Chaos is contained in the world before the split.before the human world. there's also a lot of supporting evidence for this actually. one is directly from PoC
This is speculation at best. The scan you're using to justify that Chaos is the darkness before the light split the two worlds gives no context that this "chaos" is the 9D realm where souls originate from and return to. Ok yeah, you could spin it in a way that insinuates the souls of demons go to the demon realm and thus, it is the "chaos". But remember, this is not a canonical statement. This is something you assumed because it made sense, not anything that was directly told to us through the medium. Nowhere in the 9D scan shows that souls return to Chaos.
This has nothing to do with the argument. Remember, you're arguing that souls are 9D and that the Chaos is also 9D. This just says that Dante's sword is made out of a material that comes from before the split. It adds nothing.
an interesting fact that also suggests this is the word used to refer to the primordial chaos itself '原始混沌 ' Yuánshǐ hùndùn which refers to the primordial chaos in chinese myth.
the world before heaven and earth were separated.
Again, has nothing to do with anything. You are confounding language into meaning like a literature teacher finding meaning in the statement "the door is blue".
further proving that the old world and by extension the demon world contains the place that souls originate from is that fact that both humans souls and demons (who are spirits) go to the demon world after death. this consistent with the "it originates from and returns to a higher dimension beyond the Eightfold Path". the evidence for that is the following.
No. No this does not mean what you think it means. Just because souls will eventually return to the 9D realm, it
DOES NOT MEAN the demon world is that 9D realm. Souls that die go to the demon world, sure. But there is absolutely no evidence (that you have presented) that insinuates the demon world is the final resting place of souls. Considering all the above, the 9D realm and the Chaos/demon world have no correlation whatsoever. Why would I start to believe now that the demon world is the 9D realm just because souls go there after death? There is more evidence that assumes otherwise. You need to prove that the demon world created these souls and is the final destination that all souls return to in order for me to believe this is the 9D realm.
And don't bring up the "demons were spawned by the primordial chaos" thing. That scan does not say "souls were spawned by the primordial chaos". And while you're at it, prove that human souls originate from the demon world since, as I've stated above, human souls are also 9D according to your scan.
the world is basically born of darkness (The Demon world) then the human world came to be, a small ray of light in this Endless darkness that is the demon world, it very important to note that the human world is a Low 2-C structure, and it's a small subset of the demon world, in fact, there's this thing in DMC called the mirror world that furthermore confirms this :
it's basically a copied version of the human world, and yet it's only a small fraction of the demon realm serving only as an entrance to it in mallet island, it's also a
Low 2-C structure,
this mirror realm represents evil in humanity hearts, it's also a full-on space-time continuum
as implied here.
Dude. What? Your scan for the mirror world does not insinuate that it is the same size as the human world. Like I'm going to trust you for a second and assume the human world is actually a Low 2-C construct. However, the scan just says it mirrors the human world. Like, that's what mirrors do? You're conflating a simple sentence to mean the Low 2-C construct human world, but it just means it's doing what a mirror does and mirroring the world we see. The context here is important.
"Evil is a reflection of man and thus evil lurks inside the mirror" Cool. This means absolutely nothing. Like if you think about it properly, what does this even mean literally? Evil is not a reflection of man, not in the literal sense. Unless you mean all men are true evil, in which case no one in DMC is a good person. Evil lurks inside the mirror. No shit, there are demons inside the mirror. This is textbook flowery language.
"Dante climbs to the third floor of the old castle and discovers another window in time and space. Dante went further into the depths." You're really using this as evidence of Low 2-C? I know far better evidence that has been rejected for Low 2-C before. This is nothing. Ask literally anyone and they'll tell you. A "window in time and space" is just a portal or entrance. It does not insinuate a full space-time continuum.
my point is that the demon world held multiple
Low 2-C structures as just small aspects of itself. and since the demon world is a 9th Dimensional realm that holds smaller infinitesimal tier 2 realms compared to it as subsets of itself we can conclude that it does meet the requirements for tier 1 according to the
FAQ Page
You already have a hard time convincing me it even contains one Low 2-C structure, much less multiple. Also you have provided no scan that the human realm is just a small aspect of the demon realm in this CRT but you're lucky I still remember that from the last one. For clarity sake, I suggest you include that too in this one for the people who were not present in the last CRT.
with that, i believe that the Demon world structure does qualify for tier 1, specifically for being an Infinite 1-C Realm And for housing Smaller Universal sized realms inside it
Buddy, just because a truck and a bucket can both hold the same amount of water, it does not mean the bucket is truck sized. Just because a universe is small to you, it does not mean you suddenly qualify for a tier that is leagues beyond your showings. If it were that easy, any statement of being boundlessly beyond a universe is 1-A. (Which it's not)
To summarize my points:
You have not proven the realm where souls originate from is the primordial chaos/demon world.
The mirror world is not a Low 2-C construct.
Just because the demon world is far larger than the human world it does not mean it is more dimensionally complex. Speaking of...
You still have not proven that 9D is legitimate. Like it is a statement, yeah. But a statement with no mathematical backing falls victim to this part of the FAQ:
"However, vaguer cases where a universe is merely stated to be higher-dimensional while existing in a scaling vacuum with no previously established relationship of superiority towards lower-dimensional ones (or no evidence to infer such a relationship from) should be analysed more carefully. In such cases where information as to their exact nature and scale is scarce,
it is preferable that the higher dimensions in question be fully-sized in order to qualify."
This means you have to prove your dimensions are real (spatio-temporal) and complex.
As for the former part of the FAQ:
"One of the more straightforward ways to qualify for Tier 2 and up through higher dimensions is by affecting whole higher-dimensional universes which can embed the whole of lower-dimensional ones within themselves. For example: A cosmology where the entirety of our 3-dimensional universe is in fact a subset of a much greater 4-dimensional space, or generalizations of this same scenario to higher numbers of dimensions; i.e A cosmology where the four-dimensional spacetime continuum is just the infinitesimal surface of a 5-dimensional object, and etc."
The demon world seeing the human world as infinitesimal is at best Low 1-C. But even that has its host of standards that must be adhered to.
