The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

Be not afraid

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

As u should.

Aslan shall protect me

 

[Tyranno223]

Dharmakhaya (JTTW)
Some Indian Soap Opera characters. @BestMGQScalerEver should know them
Swirl of the Root (Nasuverse)
Yog-Sothoth (Cthulhu Mythos)
God (Unsong) Not really sure
God(Seekers into the Mystery)
God(Divine comedy)
Jehovah (WOD)

Eru (LotR) as well.

Aslan apparently not, although I believe Arceus might have some arguments (according to users, idk).

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

Lu Zhiyu should probably be added to the list too for possible tier 0.

 

[Karabach-barabach]

I did not just read through an attempt to turn this thread into Fate CRT, did I?..

 

[Lasting900]

Is the Axiom High 1-A (in SMT)?

 

[KingNanaya]

I did not just read through an attempt to turn this thread into Fate CRT, did I?..

Ignore the last 9 hours

 

[Scottycj256]

I think I showed you a screenshot on how Deagon and his pals on discord plotted against Nasuverse never going beyond tier 2.

@Deagonx based alert???

 

[Unqver]

Lu Zhiyu should probably be added to the list too for possible tier 0.

You mean this paragraph?

Spoiler

“原来没有什么物质能量，一切都是造物主的梦境，一切都是造物主的思维和智慧之光的凝结，物质、能量、空间、灵魂、源质，一切都是如此。”

But, will the countless descriptions of Lu Zhiyu in the end have any impact on the results?

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

He realises everything is just the dream of the creator and he himself is the creator. It doesn't matter if there are countless or infinite creators, they're all him.

 

[KingNanaya]

So if everything except tier 0 gets accepted, would the proposed High 1-A+ be tier 0 instead, or will there just not be a tier 0?

 

[G33kedzinx]

Is the Axiom High 1-A (in SMT)?

I heard at the very least they’d remain the same

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

Where would aslan place?

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

He realises everything is just the dream of the creator and he himself is the creator. It doesn't matter if there are countless or infinite creators, they're all him.

I'm really interested in this.

 

[Reiner04]

What's the consensus of that thread sofar

 

[KingNanaya]

What's the consensus of that thread sofar

Pretty divided

 

[Reiner04]

Where would aslan place?

Tier 11 afaik.

 

[Tyranno223]

Where would aslan place?

I think 1-A was mentioned. Don't know about the Emperor though.

 

[Reiner04]

Agree: @Ultima_Reality, @Antvasima, @Everything12, @DarkGrath, @DarkDragonMedeus, @Elizhaa, @Sir_Ovens

Disagree: @DontTalkDT, @Agnaa

Anyone missing?

 

[Deagonx]

Anyone missing?

No, that's pretty much the state of things. It's unlikely that enough of the agreeing admins get persuaded to change their vote.

 

[MusicRelaxing]

GLARES AT ALL THE BATTLEBOARD-WRITTEN ISEKAI VERSES THAT ARE IN TIER 1 WITH FLAT PLOTS AND CHARACTERS

 

[Deagonx]

"He managed to turn an 11-D multiverse into a blade."

My god.

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

How is this even acceptable?

You can literally have works where the author gives detailed descriptions and its untierable but this gets passed?

 

[Deagonx]

the author gives detailed descriptions and its untierable

what do you mean

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

what do you mean

Like unique thought cosmologies instead of just throwing around the word M-theory.

 

[KingNanaya]

"He managed to turn an 11-D multiverse into a blade."

My god.

Peak

 

[Genericstickman]

although I believe Arceus might have some arguments (according to users, idk).

Arceus being in a higher tier then Digimon feels wrong

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

I'm really interested in this.

ActuallySpaceMan42 should have more details.

 

[Iiliminal]

Dharmakhaya (JTTW)
Some Indian Soap Opera characters. @BestMGQScalerEver should know them
Swirl of the Root (Nasuverse)
Yog-Sothoth (Cthulhu Mythos)
God (Unsong) Not really sure
God(Seekers into the Mystery)
God(Divine comedy)
Jehovah (WOD)

goku and anos on very existent misfit neg these fodders

 

[LifeRiderthe1]

if verses with R>F get changed how much does Umineko get changed? is it now going to go to high 1-A for FAA and 1-A for all the main voyager witches or no?

 

[Ben_CleverName]

goku and anos on very existent misfit neg these fodders

 

[Agnaa]

So if everything except tier 0 gets accepted, would the proposed High 1-A+ be tier 0 instead, or will there just not be a tier 0?

We'd decide that next thread.

 

[FoxySonicMaster108]

Me still wondering where Homestuck is going to end up. Because I’ve heard the infinite hierarchy is R>F

 

[Grand_Astartes]

"Those multiverses containing things like M-Theory to even K-Theories and Set could make that blade highly dangerous!"

I'm surprised they didn't mention tegmark crap lmao

 

[Nierre]

Phoenks makes sense to me in the thread ICL.

I may not understand shit above Tier 3, but Phoenks' concerns are reasonable enough for me to agree with em.

 

[Luckyfun]

Would this affect SCP as well? No more tier 0?

 

[LazyDaoist]

Daqinggen entered a state that seemed to be called "sincere": "I'm not entirely sure either. It's just occasionally mentioned by immortals. It's said to be the realm where Dao Venerable and Buddha Ancestor reside, the true state of transcendence. It's beyond speculation, beyond description, beyond discussion. To speak of it is wrong, to think of it is fallacious. It's a realm where the creation of the universe can be speculated, the destruction of countless universes can be imagined, the reversal of time, the overturning of cause and effect, all can be fantasized about, but not about them. So, no matter how hard one tries, they cannot understand or harm them, nor can they truly see them...
"Anyway, according to my understanding, they know everything. They are omnipresent, omnipotent, and any contradictions can coexist in them simultaneously..."

Is something like this Tier 0 from scaling to this

"Without the illusory roaring sound, nor the feeling of brain explosion, suddenly the scene before him dimmed, without color, without sound, without up, down, front, back, left, or right, nor past, present, future, only a point, containing infinite distance and infinite closeness, harboring all possible outcomes, a point difficult to accurately describe with language, a point that cannot be judged with logical thinking.

If it were someone else, perhaps they would panic, perhaps they would be at a loss, not understanding what this point is. But Meng Qi's own cultivation is the 'Elemental Golden Chapter' combined with the 'Eight-Nine Profound Arts.' His Dharma form resembles this indestructible primordial form. When initially determining his path, he also referenced the insights from his past life, naturally understanding that it is a singularity, a singularity of the multiverse, the true body of the Primordial Celestial Being!"

Just regular transcendence because it's reachable, or it's untierable?

 

[Tdjwo]

Is something like this Tier 0 from scaling to this

It would have qualified for tier 0, but seeing as there are more than one person on this level, it becomes impossible to be tier 0.

 

[MrKerf]

Would this affect SCP as well? No more tier 0?

Someone semi-recently mentioned there was a Reality in SCP sandbox, which if I remember correctly, would qualify for tier 0.

 

[deonment]

Arceus being in a higher tier then Digimon feels wrong

The Heart sadly isn't eternal and came into being so it isn't 0.
Otherwise, it would be.
Due to such Digimon is gonna continue to be in a higher tier than Pokemon, and actually be able to do matches with SMT again (because those two verses are basically just one and the same).