Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

[LoganKroos]

pretty sure it was said that the user must know the things first, for example Rimuru must know the existence of "Rock" to determine any hidden secret behind it, it was just some clairvoyance skill

Ok

 

[091Franky]

Rimuru sus

 

[LoganKroos]

Rimuru sus

I thought that this dragon in the back could be Ivaraj but now I'm sure it's Velzard's dragon form, it's beautiful, I hope Ivaraj is even better than that, I expect a lot from the appearances of Ivaraj, Zelanus and the other insectars and cryptds

 

[Peak]

Rimuru sus

this illustration of Rimuru I found ugly, but the cover of the volume is beautiful at least

 

[LoganKroos]

I think they tried to sensualize Rimuru but it didn't work out very well lol, but it's not that bad, it's acceptable

this illustration of Rimuru I found ugly, but the cover of the volume is beautiful at least

 

[Peak]

I think they tried to sensualize Rimuru but it didn't work out very well lol, but it's not that bad, it's acceptable

I also felt that they tried to sensualize him, but I don't forget that it's the soul of a man there lol

 

[LoganKroos]

I also felt that they tried to sensualize him, but I don't forget that it's the soul of a man there lol

but despite the rimuru being a man he always leaned to both sides, right? he likes female beauty more but he also has a crush on Leon, Souei, Benimaru, Diablo etc

 

[Peak]

but despite the rimuru being a man he always leaned to both sides, right? he likes female beauty more but he also has a crush on Leon, Souei, Benimaru, Diablo etc

I think what he felt more was envy of their beauty and for them to stand out in front of women, but really liking someone male I don't think so, Guy fits better in that

 

[LoganKroos]

Guy is another lmao level, but rimuru I think he's bi, in the anime and manga he was always kind of effeminate and even in the novel he still blushed equally with the praises of both Diablo and Testarossa

I think what he felt more was envy of their beauty and for them to stand out in front of women, but really liking someone male I don't think so, Guy fits better in that

 

[Peak]

Guy is another lmao level, but rimuru I think he's bi, in the anime and manga he was always kind of effeminate and even in the novel he still blushed equally with the praises of both Diablo and Testarossa

Rimuru I don't know what it would be, but anyway, I think Fuse intends to leave him with Chloe in LN, different from the harem that became WN, and I would prefer it that way

 

[Peak]

I was thinking something, it's not surprising that tensura beings interact with abstract existences like digital beings, digital life forms are composed of information,but it turns out that any being with ultimate skill in Tensura can manipulate particles of information, so I don't think it would be an outlier if someone interacted with a digital being

 

[rainheart]

I was thinking something, it's not surprising that tensura beings interact with abstract existences like digital beings, digital life forms are composed of information,but it turns out that any being with ultimate skill in Tensura can manipulate particles of information, so I don't think it would be an outlier if someone interacted with a digital being

actually there are to bodies for spiritual being which is material body and spiritual body when they evolve into digital beings the material body will stil remain as material body while the spiritual body would evolve and became a total abstract.. just like manas which are a conceptual intelegence.. digital lifeform has became the same existence as manas.

 

[LoganKroos]

it's as if they were concepts within concepts since even spiritual beings have a soul and manas is linked to soul, so when they become digital beings they become even deeper beings in existence

actually there are to bodies for spiritual being which is material body and spiritual body when they evolve into digital beings the material body will stil remain as material body while the spiritual body would evolve and became a total abstract.. just like manas which are a conceptual intelegence.. digital lifeform has became the same existence as manas.

 

[Peak]

actually there are to bodies for spiritual being which is material body and spiritual body when they evolve into digital beings the material body will stil remain as material body while the spiritual body would evolve and became a total abstract.. just like manas which are a conceptual intelegence.. digital lifeform has became the same existence as manas.

a spiritual being or material body cannot pass the speed of light and cannot move in the suspended world, mind, manas and soul are already formed by information particles always, but the material body does not support speed, but a digital being does, because the whole body becomes composed of information particles, there is no material body there, even Ciel says that he turned Rimuru's entire existence into something composed only of information particles, and says that Chloe and Michael are also digital beings

 

[rainheart]

a spiritual being or material body cannot pass the speed of light and cannot move in the suspended world, mind, manas and soul are already formed by information particles always, but the material body does not support speed, but a digital being does, because the whole body becomes composed of information particles, there is no material body there, even Ciel says that he turned Rimuru's entire existence into something composed only of information particles, and says that Chloe and Michael are also digital beings

i disagree of all rims body became a digital lifeform cuz its would be contradictive if anyone in the verse could see rimuru which has became an aspect of information itself..and anywyas spritual being should be part of information particle its also stated that spirits are part of IP..and prolly the only reason diablo cant move is becouse he use hes material body..i do think spiritual LF can move..even guy can move and chloe before became 1 with chrono can use..i presume guy was able to move becaouse he copy velgrynd..and the only ways to move actually is having SW too... and if i remember ciel stated rimuru would able to move before ciel saying anything about digital lifeforms..

 

[rainheart]

i disagree of all rims body became a digital lifeform cuz its would be contradictive if anyone in the verse could see rimuru which has became an aspect of information itself..and anywyas spritual being should be part of information particle its also stated that spirits are part of IP..and prolly the only reason diablo cant move is becouse he use hes material body..i do think spiritual LF can move..even guy can move and chloe before became 1 with chrono can use..i presume guy was able to move becaouse he copy velgrynd..and the only ways to move actually is having SW too... and if i remember ciel stated rimuru would able to move before ciel saying anything about digital lifeforms..

and its prolly the reason velgrynd cant move even if velgrynd has imeasurable speed(travel) and even transcend time and space she cant move cuz dont has SW... and even granbell who has the same nature as digital lifeform cant move..

 

[rainheart]

and i think guys rimuru and who can use SW has a above baseline imeasurable.. cuz it wouldnt be make sense if velgrynd who has imea speed cant move in SW even if its only travel speed..

 

[LoganKroos]

Tensured characters move from hypersonic speed to light speed with raw speed, but with thought acceleration and spatial manipulation like the diablo for example that travels long distances traveling between spaces, wouldn't that be ftl at least?

 

[Peak]

Tensured characters move from hypersonic speed to light speed with raw speed, but with thought acceleration and spatial manipulation like the diablo for example that travels long distances traveling between spaces, wouldn't that be ftl at least?

Spatial manipulation is like teleportation, not something like physical locomotion, that's why Rimuru WN doesn't have immeasurable either

 

[Peak]

i disagree of all rims body became a digital lifeform cuz its would be contradictive if anyone in the verse could see rimuru which has became an aspect of information itself..and anywyas spritual being should be part of information particle its also stated that spirits are part of IP..and prolly the only reason diablo cant move is becouse he use hes material body..i do think spiritual LF can move..even guy can move and chloe before became 1 with chrono can use..i presume guy was able to move becaouse he copy velgrynd..and the only ways to move actually is having SW too... and if i remember ciel stated rimuru would able to move before ciel saying anything about digital lifeforms..

All this had already been answered before in the thread, but if you have so many doubts, wait for more information vol20

 

[LoganKroos]

Spatial manipulation is like teleportation, not something like physical locomotion, that's why Rimuru WN doesn't have immeasurable either

but doesn't that allow him to battle characters that move many times faster than the speed of light?

 

[Peak]

but doesn't that allow him to battle characters that move many times faster than the speed of light?

allows, as long as it is not infinite or immeasurable speed, he can fight, but the attack speed will be much lower

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

CRT for vol 13-14 is up.

 

[rainheart]

alright guys i just came up with a conclution....
So ppl saying that to move in a suspended world needed to be a digital lifefrom and the answer is NO why...

https://i.gyazo.com/6a49ebbc523cf04d0a746ff535680854.png

So in volume 12 when guy vs chloe they uses suspended world.. and in those volumes Guy even chloe havent became a digital life form so how they can use it
then how can guy use it the answer is Guy copied velgrynd ability which is the sub skills of patience king gabriel...
and how did chloe use it to how can she use it fighting with Guy without even copyin it...
the answer is chloe does not has SW but she has ultimate skill yog sototh..

https://i.gyazo.com/cd895cd716bc6690212b881f8882ce65.png

https://i.gyazo.com/3a3e8652c43af94f70bab6b7befe4109.png

which is why chloe dont actually need to have SW to move in it.. with this skill chloe is just like became the god of time and space..
and its also proven that ciel sayd that rimuru would abel to move before ciel sayin anything about DIGITAL lifeform..

https://i.gyazo.com/e7997e811b2dde54831019e00f00e9de.png..

So i came to a conlution that to move in SW dont need to be an digital life form..
but to move in it the user must able to use Suspended world to. so u need an suspended world to move in a suspended world...

And now so does having a suspended world make you having a imeasurable speed..
its No or maybe yes..
why..
so we all now rimuru get imeasurable speed becouse becaming a digital life form not becouse using a suspended world..

https://i.gyazo.com/e82ce54cb2425fe6506f5aebbeb1ebf7.png..

even if you having an imeasurable speed likely wont make u able to move if you cant use SW the example is velgrynd..

Gyazo

gyazo.com

.. SO does this makes rimuru has an above baseline Imeasurable speed since even velgrynd who has a imeasurable speed apears frozen in SW....

 

[Catpija]

Every immeasureable character can get time stopped

 

[JV_DLS]

Every immeasureable character can get time stopped

you mean he perceives time as standing still as he moves, don't you?

but wouldn't stopping the flow of time be something different?

 

[LoganKroos]

you mean he perceives time as standing still as he moves, don't you?

but wouldn't stopping the flow of time be something different?

For someone with immeasurable speed, it doesn't matter how fast you move or whether time stands still or not, the concept of speed and distance becomes irrelevant unless you're omnipresent or on a plane of existence where the concept of place is not exist

 

[rainheart]

Every immeasureable character can get time stopped

I dont even guy has ok imeasurable speed even having a SW.. but what i know SW can be used for blitzz and like if u use SW its like having an imeasurable speed..

 

[Catpija]

you mean he perceives time as standing still as he moves, don't you?

but wouldn't stopping the flow of time be something different?

no, i mean immeasureable speed characters are still vulnerable to time stop

 

[Catpija]

I dont even guy has ok imeasurable speed even having a SW.. but what i know SW can be used for blitzz and like if u use SW its like having an imeasurable speed..

its literally time stop, it can be used to blitz your enemy because they cant move or react inside it, unless they have some sort of resistance

 

[LoganKroos]

no, i mean immeasureable speed characters are still vulnerable to time stop

only if it's a character with a higher tier

 

[rainheart]

For someone with immeasurable speed, it doesn't matter how fast you move or whether time stands still or not, the concept of speed and distance becomes irrelevant unless you're omnipresent or on a plane of existence where the concept of place is not exist

no, i mean immeasureable speed characters are still vulnerable to time stop

Velgrynd having imea but still cant move in this timestop im pretty sure than digital lifeform would have above baseline imea.. wht u guys think.

 

[Catpija]

only if it's a character with a higher tier

what are you talking about

 

[Catpija]

You can only get time stopped by someone with stronger AP? huh?

 

[Catpija]

For someone with immeasurable speed, it doesn't matter how fast you move or whether time stands still or not, the concept of speed and distance becomes irrelevant unless you're omnipresent or on a plane of existence where the concept of place is not exist

thats actually depends on the feat itself, not all immeasureable automatically somehow above the concept of speed and distance

 

[rainheart]

You can only get time stopped by someone with stronger AP? huh?

wht do u think about the above baseline imea..

 

[rainheart]

and also think suspended world user can deside wether everyone became freeze or not why cuz in volume 12 when guy use sw rimuru and other can move.. and in volume 19 rimuru even velgrynd cant move...

thats actually depends on the feat itself, not all immeasureable automatically somehow above the concept of speed and distance

 

[Catpija]

and also think suspended world user can deside wether everyone became freeze or not why cuz in volume 12 when guy use sw rimuru and other can move.. and in volume 19 rimuru even velgrynd cant move...

yeah thats how time stop work

 

[rainheart]

alright guys i just came up with a conclution....
So ppl saying that to move in a suspended world needed to be a digital lifefrom and the answer is NO why...

https://i.gyazo.com/6a49ebbc523cf04d0a746ff535680854.png

So in volume 12 when guy vs chloe they uses suspended world.. and in those volumes Guy even chloe havent became a digital life form so how they can use it
then how can guy use it the answer is Guy copied velgrynd ability which is the sub skills of patience king gabriel...
and how did chloe use it to how can she use it fighting with Guy without even copyin it...
the answer is chloe does not has SW but she has ultimate skill yog sototh..

https://i.gyazo.com/cd895cd716bc6690212b881f8882ce65.png

https://i.gyazo.com/3a3e8652c43af94f70bab6b7befe4109.png

which is why chloe dont actually need to have SW to move in it.. with this skill chloe is just like became the god of time and space..
and its also proven that ciel sayd that rimuru would abel to move before ciel sayin anything about DIGITAL lifeform..

https://i.gyazo.com/e7997e811b2dde54831019e00f00e9de.png..

So i came to a conlution that to move in SW dont need to be an digital life form..
but to move in it the user must able to use Suspended world to. so u need an suspended world to move in a suspended world...

And now so does having a suspended world make you having a imeasurable speed..
its No or maybe yes..
why..
so we all now rimuru get imeasurable speed becouse becaming a digital life form not becouse using a suspended world..

https://i.gyazo.com/e82ce54cb2425fe6506f5aebbeb1ebf7.png..

even if you having an imeasurable speed likely wont make u able to move if you cant use SW the example is velgrynd..

Gyazo

gyazo.com

.. SO does this makes rimuru has an above baseline Imeasurable speed since even velgrynd who has a imeasurable speed apears frozen in SW....

yeah thats how time stop work

btw what u think bout above baseline imea..

 

[LoganKroos]

thats actually depends on the feat itself, not all immeasureable automatically somehow above the concept of speed and distance

if it's higher dimensional distances and speeds it won't work, but the base is this