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Seriously? I thought things like stops in time were irrelevant to a character with immeasurable speed who can move through time.
By the way, didn't you have a measure of speed and force called "irrelevant" before? What happened to her ?
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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20
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By the way, didn't you have a measure of speed and force called "irrelevant" before? What happened to her ?
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no, immeasureable is just regular distance/time but the time axis is considered the distance now
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So u didnt read any of my comment?
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deleted because immeasureable can cover it or smth(idk i forgot), something like irrelevant is based on the space-time structure of the verse and can be slower than immeasureable on superior time-space structure
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yeah IK but for velgrynd getting freeze in timestop even she has an imeasurable speed... thats makes Suspended world is not a regular timestop...
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it is unknown if she has immeasurable speed yet
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she does didnt u read the scanss.
But it is just an Travel imea but still an imeasurable speed..
Going in a world that transcend time yesterday,today,tommorow velgrynd still going.
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yeah she has imeasurable travel speed
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need to wait for the translations
Tempestdragon6
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sadly yes
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regular timestop can do that bruh, how many times do i need to tell you this
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wym having an imeasurable speed should make u immune to any timestop...
and not to mention velgrynd is beyond time and space.. it would not make sense that velgrynd can be frozen in a timestop..
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Velgrind travels through temporal directions, but at no time is he beyond the worlds
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Immeasureable doesnt grant you resistance to time stop, and beyond time space was used in a context for her speed, not resistance
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look like will win now against some one with imeasurble speed
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Suspended world users can't choose who gets frozen in time or not, this was said in vol19 for reaching the entire multiverse, and in vol12 what Guy and Chloe were doing was activating and deactivating the time stop when attacking, they were literally playing around and testing each other, Rimuru reinforces this in vol19, and in vol12, Rimuru and Raphael reinforce that they couldn't analyze what happened because he couldn't see what was happening at the time stop, and Velgrynd doesn't have immeasurable speed, that can be interpreted as teleportation, and the proof of this is that she did not fight with immeasurable speed against Feldway, and anyone around could see the battle, for now, the only ones with good foundations for immeasurable speed are digital lifeform
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"Velgrynd (After being evolved) can't move in suspended world " I couldn't find a single statement that proves that .
"That's impressive .After all only a few people who are capable of using that power" -Guy to Chloe after using SW in volume -12.
It's just that no one used SW against velgrynd .(She might or might not be able to move in SW .But the fanbase seems really convinced that she can't )
"That's impressive .After all only a few people who are capable of using that power" -Guy to Chloe after using SW in volume -12.
It's just that no one used SW against velgrynd .(She might or might not be able to move in SW .But the fanbase seems really convinced that she can't )
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I thought about that too, I don't know if it's right to say that she can't just because she didn't use SW, and it wasn't shown what happened to her when Michael used it
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she cannot, in the battle in ingracia, both Testarossa and Velgrynd were able to recognize the suspended world but were unable to move, this is slightly confirmed
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rimuru about to bust a cap in your ass
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in Tensura there are countless worlds, each with its own laws of space and time, and also the spirits that represent the world, but everything is ruled by the 8 great spirits, there are the 5 spirits Fire, water, earth, wind and space they they are a duality that maintains the balance of each other, then there is the two spirits of light and darkness that are the original duality and that formed the other 5 spirits that formed everything and are not limited by them, and then comes the time that is not limited by nothing not even the light and darkness that are the original duality, and if Veldanava came from the void even before the great spirit of time that is not limited by any duality, couldn't there be a chance that Veldanava is 1A?
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I thought about this possibility, and really if you transcend the concept of duality you become 1A, so I think you have that chance
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Type 3 (True General Transduality): A state of being which is qualitatively beyond and superior to the nature of binary logic or duality at any level, including the conceptual, standing beyond the scope of all dual systems and concepts regardless of how complex they are. Such characters typically exist as contradictions within the context of their setting, and abide to dialetheic systems of logic, or are portrayed as existing within a state of single, indivisible wholeness bereft of any separation. As space and time themselves can be considered a duality, as well as the distinction between being within/outside spatio-temporal dimensionality’s limitations, this type is reserved for 1-A characters and up.
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I don't understand anything when we talk about tier 1, but for that, doesn't the verse itself need to be tier 1 too? How would Veldanava be 1A if cosmology is limited to 2A?
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a character can have a higher tier than their own cosmology as long as they have enough arguments to prove it
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That's why I said there's really a chance
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This is wrong, transcending the concept of duality isn't any type of evidence for 1-A, not unless your verse is already something like 1-B.
Meanwhile, isn't even enough evidence for Low 1-C Veldanava.
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yeah u can see it on FAQ
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Wrong way around, it's not by having evidence of this you can gain 1-A, it's that by having evidence of this and being 1-A you gain this ability.
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got it, so if by any chance the tensura verse is 1b, Veldanava would be 1A as it is beyond the great spirits that rule the worlds, but as it has no solid evidence of higher dimensions then it remains 2b, thanks for the clarification
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Well you would need a bit more evidence then just what I've seen so far, but that is the general idea.
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Can anyone answer if this is that's enough of the requirements to have on the profile?
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but would it be possible to obtain transduality 3 without being 1-A?
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Well I also thought about that
During the fight against Grandbell ,Luminous managed to overpower Hope king Sariel by sheer willpower .At least Luminous should have supernatural will power .
It was also stated in vol-11 that a Ultimate skill vs Ultimate skill fights are determined by users will power (or something like this when grandbell and Luminous fought) .
There are multiple statements about Ultimate skill users having strong souls (Don't know if strong souls also indicate supernatural will power )
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