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Superman (Donnerverse) vs Prime Whitebeard
- Thread starter KingEzran
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Eminiteable
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What is superman's AP?
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Baseline then.
Eminiteable
He/Him- 7,389
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Hmm, Whitbeard should have the ap advantage since both of them were weaker than the current keys which performed the feat, 8.57 > 7 Teratons. Although speed is equalised Superman's heat vision should be light speed(I think) but whitebeard should be able to lessen the advantage with his precognition. Superman has superior lifting strength by a decent amount so he holds the advantage there. Stamina Whitbeard should hold the advantage based on survivability pain tolerance and days he can fight for, Superman if I'm getting this right essentially has infinite stamina if he's in direct sunlight (although I don't know if this effects this profiles) but that could potentially be neutered unintentionally via Whitebeards weather manipulation which can block out the sun; his weather manip seems to be a passive effect that just happens whenever he starts using the gura gura no mi. Superman's invulnerability can be bypassed by Gura Gura no mi's vibrations (I think) and Whitbeard can extend his ap via Armament Haki Koka increasing his durability and ap, and as for Superman's other abilities like heat vision etc Superman could potentially block then via forcefield Goken. Going to vote for Whitebeard.
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Shirohige FRA for now
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Superman cause his profile lists at least country while WB is baseline (Also why is Primebeard cited when we don't have a key for that?). Also has flight so he could leave, come back with an country sized island to drop on WB and if he quakes he'll still get taken out by the resulting destruction of land and submersion of water.
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@Fix Sups is baseline. He's listed as At least because the feat was done while weakened by kriptonite.
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Actually after revisions he may well be 6-B+
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@Hellbeast well, it's not bad to give him a calc. 6-B for Lifting an Island sounds weird.
@Fix I'm plannin on adding Primebeard key, who should be at least as strong as Oldbeard. The feat was also considerably casual so I think they are even in that matter, giving Sups a bit advantage to compete with Pops as an equal considering the context of his feat.
@Fix I'm plannin on adding Primebeard key, who should be at least as strong as Oldbeard. The feat was also considerably casual so I think they are even in that matter, giving Sups a bit advantage to compete with Pops as an equal considering the context of his feat.
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That doesn't really answer my question . .
So I'm going by MF feats since this is in VS and not fun&Games thread.
Therefore I give the edge to Sup since:
Gura vibrations won't help as Superman doesn't use armor. The inside of his flesh is as powerful as his outside (Watch GOTG opening scene if you need a refresher).
Superman still has flight, heat vision, better lifting strength, likley better physicals, and endless endurance via the sun. I think WB effecting the sky with quakes was only in the anime, but I could be wrong. Either way I don't see him managing it intentionally and Superman can always fly up above the clouds for a boost. Also 5 metres is a very close starting range that doesn't play to WB's strengths.
So I'm going by MF feats since this is in VS and not fun&Games thread.
Therefore I give the edge to Sup since:
Gura vibrations won't help as Superman doesn't use armor. The inside of his flesh is as powerful as his outside (Watch GOTG opening scene if you need a refresher).
Superman still has flight, heat vision, better lifting strength, likley better physicals, and endless endurance via the sun. I think WB effecting the sky with quakes was only in the anime, but I could be wrong. Either way I don't see him managing it intentionally and Superman can always fly up above the clouds for a boost. Also 5 metres is a very close starting range that doesn't play to WB's strengths.
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I'm telling you they are even physically, but Shirohige can boost with Haki.
Sups' range is unknown for some reason, so Newgate outranges.
The cloud formation appeared in the manga as well.
Sups' range is unknown for some reason, so Newgate outranges.
The cloud formation appeared in the manga as well.
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@Calaca
Allegedly it's stated to be a continent and Clark did drag this thing into orbit
Allegedly it's stated to be a continent and Clark did drag this thing into orbit
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Doesn't look that big tho. I haven't seen the movie in years so I can't be sure anyway.
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Nah its not that big and a calc of it only got High 7-A results. So he's being downgraded and this match up is now a stomp in WB's favor.
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Thought so.
But we can make Sups fight any other OP character in the High 7-A.
But we can make Sups fight any other OP character in the High 7-A.
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I'll keep it in case the OP wants to change the combatant once Sups gets properly downgraded.
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