Ughhhhhhh....Vilgax couldn't escape it all day and had to sit through all night something I showed a scan of along ago.
Newsflash, he needs to last a day, because win via incap is for a day, not a minute.
That's good. Thanks for the confirmation
Good, hope it gets accepted, in future.
Can he, a energy cage?
He needs a lot of shit from the looks of things, skimming through the movie alone I spotted slightly better regen and healing, hundred/thousand km feat for heat vision, a FTL+ feat (reaches the sun in less than 25 seconds, and nearly catches the eye despite it having a few minute head start), an upgrade to Class M (catches a falling skyscraper), shockwave stuff, some decent hand throwing and of course, funny 4-C.
Yeah, just bash his head against it (he used a headbash against Darkseid off the top of my head, that fight should be on yt), or in that above scan like vilgax, just punch it.
I got it the first time brother.By the way Ben transformed Back into a Human and went to sleep at night, Meanwhile Vilgax was sitting all night USELESS inside the cage.
Cage is made up of OMNI energy special form of energy which only SR can turn on or off.
That's not answering my question. Can he destroy a energy cage? When he did so?
Yeah? Why wouldn't he be able to, he vastly outclasses its durability. If anything he should be able to flat out one shot it and smash it to bits, and if you're about to say because it's energy, just about everyone in the DCAU, supes included, has ****** with green lantern constructs at some point in time (and broke them).
It's not a iron cage for that, it's properties and other things are obviously different than iron cage. Just like freeze cage is different than energy net.
My dude, it's a physical object that can be interacted with that is way the **** below Supes' actual output. He could smash a freeze cage to and break and energy net. Unless you're about to argue the fields are indestructible, can't be interacted with, or whatever, they'll break just like anything else.
He doesn't need to push through it, he just needs to apply AP to it, if he can move, at all, he can do so, in the multiple scans you've shown Vilgax has more than enough room to move around, or at least make offensive actions like a headbutt or an elbow, he isn't completely immobile.Because Cage durability is created with SR's LS applying the pressure (Higher LS) and making the cage stronger and reinforcing it. Unless he outclasses SR LS he can't push through it.
Why are you going on about things literally nobody has said?
He makes a good point regarding the cage. Interacting with cage too much would cause mutations since its made up of omni energy.
Too much isn't one, at best like two, hits.
That's a hell of a segway ngl.
Since when energy attacks became physical? They can harms someone physically but ain't getting resisted or anything unless energy manp or resist to it, there not much of AP difference, so he needs hax or resist to outclass those.
His body is not pure energy so wrong equivalence. Energies cannot be interacted without energy manp or resistance to it, if no then resistance to energy manp or energy manp should have been given distributed to all those who has high AP but no.
As long as they're in the same tier, they would need to outclass hax with resistance. Shock rock ain't doing hand to hand fight for it to be a factor.
What? Yes, it is? I hope you aren't talking about the armor because that was never part of the equation.
His body has DNA to begin with dude. A biological being who possess to absorb, create and do energy attacks.
Dude, they have a durability, a durability quite a bit below even Supes 5-C+ calc. This isn't some abstract or unconventional hax, it's an ability, an ability that can be interacted with, an ability that can be damaged, and ability he has the AP that far exceeds its durability. He doesn't need energy manip, he just needs to hit hard enough to blow it to shit.
And the energy fields are made from the exact same substance as stated multiple times by multiple people who have been arguing for him. So there ya go.
Yeah? His energy attacks hasn't been shown to be touched or baseball'd by wood.
Then take that up with the profile or the multiple people saying you don't need NPI to interact with the energy, not me. As it stands they say it doesn't need to, and we even see Vilgax and shit touching it in the scans (who lacks NPI), or even a literal tornado.
Ability =/= hax whatttt? Energy attacks are abilities comes under hax of energy manp my guy.
Bruh, are you telling me his energy attacks has DNA? He absorbs energy from surrounding, does those surrounding has DNA? He just have energy Manp, not hard to understand does it?
You need energy Manp or resistance to it. That's all I care for. If he can't interact with those then here it goes. It has no anti feat for that vilgax touching a biological being is not a anti feat for energy attack by that biological being.
You have a pretty broad definition of hax if you think even the most basic ability is hax.
I'm not, they are. If the energy constructs are made from the exact same substance as his body, then yes, by proxy they do.
Dude, Vilgax is touching the energy cage in the ******* scans posted. Not Shockrock itself.
No I just found it hard to get how a energy attack is not a energy manp hax but rather just a normal acrobatics like abilities.
You had need to prove that those energy attacks has DNA inside them not just energy attacks by being capable of manipulating energy and absorb it.
If energy won't come from energy being then from whom? It's not NLF as they're not in different tiers for it to be a stomp, a guy surviving intense pain would get resistance to pain Manipulation, surviving electrical attack would get resist to it, controlling air would get manp or just crossing off all kinds of air attacks would get resist to it, same with space, time, reality and whatever.
Where?
Because it's not really hax, energy manip is energy manip, doesn't mean they're all built the same, it's just a generic term we use for energy-like stuff, from ki, beam guns, chaos energy, whatever. Energy by wiki standards doesn't need to be some atomless, intangible, construct, and in this case it's blatantly not.
Literally same exact substance from his body and derived from it, as established and shown, if you don't like it take it up with the profile, demonicdude, firstwitch and so on, it wasn't me who said this lad, it was them.
It comes from him, to bad the energy in question can be interacted with normally, which you don't seem to get.
Uh, what? My brother in christ, the actual tiers don't matter in the slightest, what matters is the actual power gap.
That is (partially) correct (we dont do that pain manip stuff anymore).
Is it though? Reiner is saying you need energy manip or NPI to interact with Shockrock or his stuff at all, otherwise, you can't if you're 5-C.
