STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

[ZillertheBucko]

well that's ******* annoying
guess I'll actually have to go through with the ******* Borochi bullshit that I've dreaded for all this time

wait no no no I'm not giving up that easy, let me back up
Geryuganshoop is dead by the time the databook takes place, meaning tatsumaki would be the strongest psychic at the time
chronologically speaking, geryu being the strongest while he was alive is still completely in-bounds
additionally, it could easily refer to tatsumaki as the strongest on earth since that's the only place that really is relevant for her, while geryu is specifically stated as the strongest psychic in the universe
so yeah, this is actually fine.

He didn't destroy 23% of the ship, he damaged it internally over the course of minutes. And even at that level he knew Gror got wiped in seconds.

Yes, he damaged 23% (of a REALLY big ******* ship btw) of it in a very short time, which means they already knew by default he was capable of breaking through walls
which is significant, because the moon jump was unable to actually break through the ceiling.

A) Tatsumaki did way more, B) Geryu himself was ******** himself over Saitama's power earlier. This is bullshit confidence, as we discussed earlier.

Because geryuganshoop was specifically trying to make sure the ship didn't get damaged, so of course he wouldn't destroy the ship like tatsumaki was doing.
And Geryuganshoop was still going "how is this possible" when saitama was stronger than him, so the confidence was very real from both geryu AND boros. It's a DOUBLE confidence scaling.

You said that the S-Class were fighting unsplit Melz. It was his split and unsplit forms that had trouble and were getting their attacks blocked.

Melz split immediately after fighting Iaian, nobody actually withstood any attack from merged melz.

inverse square law isn't used for explosions, it's used for people who withstand explosions.

from my knowledge, the further away something is, it gets exponentially harder to damage it with an explosion, which means that being able to, say, destroy a tower that's on the other side of the planet would be insanely more powerful than high 8-C+. I'll have to inquire with the therefir about it though.

 

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[LordTracer]

Geryuganshoop is dead by the time the databook takes place, meaning tatsumaki would be the strongest psychic at the time

It says she’s the strongest psychic ever, so that argument doesn’t work.

 

[ByAsura]

Geryuganshoop is dead by the time the databook takes place, meaning tatsumaki would be the strongest psychic at the time

It says ever, as in for all time.

Yes, he damaged 23% (of a REALLY big ******* ship btw) of it in a very short time

Tats was performing similar feats. The point is moreso that this isn't even a semi-notable fraction of a fraction of a fraction of her strength.

which means they already knew by default he was capable of breaking through walls
which is significant, because the moon jump was unable to actually break through the ceiling.

The ceiling is far thicker, and the jump caused the gravity core to partially fail. Breaking through one wall is in no way similar to the moon jump, but not orders of magnitude lower.

Because geryuganshoop was specifically trying to make sure the ship didn't get damaged

No he wasn't. It was just a full-on rubble barrage directed against Saitama.

And Geryuganshoop was still going "how is this possible" when saitama was stronger than him, so the confidence was very real from both geryu AND boros. It's a DOUBLE confidence scaling.

The bullshit confidence he didn't have earlier is still bullshit confidence. All he believes is that Saitama shouldn't have tanked it like it was literally nothing.

Melz split immediately after fighting Iaian, nobody actually withstood any attack from merged melz.

He then refused, and Bang casually stomped him.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

The ceiling is far thicker, and the jump caused the gravity core to partially fail.

for one, the links still don't work, you're just gonna have to insert the images
but anyways, the gravity core is just was keeps the ship flying, it only started failing and the ship started falling because he directly crashed down on top of it rather than just punching inside it

No he wasn't. It was just a full-on rubble barrage directed against Saitama.

his job is literally to protect the ship man, I don't know what you're talking about, he wasn't trying to tear apart the whole damn ship

The bullshit confidence he didn't have earlier is still bullshit confidence. All he believes is that Saitama shouldn't have tanked it like it was literally nothing.

He literally says "I did it" and believes he beat saitama before even checking to see if he beat him
so what he "believes" is that he was strong enough to kill saitama, not that he wasn't 10 one shots below Saitama.

He then refused, and Bang casually stomped him.

need image

 

[ZillertheBucko]

It says ever, as in for all time.

It says she’s the strongest psychic ever, so that argument doesn’t work.

well damn
someone get the raws

 

[TimmyTurnero]

On second thought, Genos does scale to the speed of his beams, but I don't think there's ever an example of him being comparable to the explosions they create.

Even then, it would be nice to give his first key some attack speed.

 

[ByAsura]

What I'm talking about is that it wouldn't matter at that point. It's all his best power directed at Saitama. How the hell is he preventing damage?

That doesn't explain why it's not bullshit confidence in his own ability that contradicts his and Boros' earlier sentiments completely.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

What I'm talking about is that it wouldn't matter at that point. It's all his best power directed at Saitama. How the hell is he preventing damage?

That doesn't explain why it's not bullshit confidence in his own ability that contradicts his earlier sentiments completely.

ok I guess my pc is just broken somehow, so I'm gonna have to do my best to assume what scans you posted
the point is that he was using his full force, but just smacking him with rubble, while you're trying to say that because he didn't go out of his way to do a ton of environmental damage and destroy everything in sight in the ship that he doesn't want to get destroyed, that it's an anti feat against him being able to be stronger than tatsumaki. The fact is, the things that he actually threw did get completely shattered, while you're focusing on the things that he wasn't even throwing to begin with.
And also, groribas being the top fighter as a contradiction could easily be the result of him using acid hax and having like 20 secret techniques that were never shown, geryu could easily have more raw power and it wouldn't matter. Don't forget that Boros was confident about it too, even though it's shown that saitama was also doing stuff like pulling massive doors clean off the wall in ch 33 (cbari)

 

[ByAsura]

This is just a bunch of massive assumptions with 0 evidence, so I don't really feel the need to counter it with my own assumptions or lack thereof, especially since this whole argument is invalid to begin with due to the Tats statement.

We don't actually see them shatter, funnily enough. The lines of the rubble drawn do get smaller, but they'd already gotten smaller by the time he was tossing them out.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/844777414596755475/1091940301876240415/IMG_0433.png
the ceilings aren't thicker by the way, not to mention what you posted was the ceiling of the throne room apparently, which is directly stated to have a "very solid construction" which at least means it's built differently, and isn't the standard for the rest of the ship necessarily. But either way, this door is seemingly equally thick

 

[ByAsura]

You just showed that the wall there is far less thick than Saitama, while the ceiling was so thick that it dwarfed Saitama and Boros.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

This is just a bunch of massive assumptions with 0 evidence, so I don't really feel the need to counter it with my own assumptions or lack thereof, especially since this whole argument is invalid to begin with due to the Tats statement.

We don't actually see them shatter, funnily enough. The lines of the rubble drawn do get smaller, but they'd already gotten smaller by the time he was tossing them out.

and nope to that too
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/844777414596755475/1091940925904785449/IMG_0435.png
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/844777414596755475/1091941198693945425/IMG_0436.png

 

[ZillertheBucko]

You just showed that the wall there is far less thick than Saitama

???????
it....is very clearly thicker than Saitama is
do I need to pixel scale it or something?

 

[ByAsura]

Are you seeing something that I'm not?

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Are you seeing something that I'm not?

Oh come on you were using vertically
you're a goblin, Asura...

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Anyways in the scan of boros and saitama breaking through the ceiling, we quite literally never get to see them until after the ceiling is broken and it's out of view from them, so that doesn't work either.

 

[ByAsura]

What does thickness usually mean to you, you gremlin? It can refer to height, but most people don't use it in that context, especially in these kinds of scenarios.

Anyway, how tall the corridors are is irrelevant. Busting through them would just overcome the thickness.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

And also in the scan of melza "merging again", he doesn't actually merged
when merged, he looks like this

with all 5 heads. The scan you posted just shows a single head, so he never merged again
esp since metal bat is shown fighting the smaller head later.

 

[ByAsura]

No he doesn't. The databook outright shows that he looks like what I showed (to the point where it's the same image).

This is why he has 5 sets of eyes instead of 2 to 4.

 

[Kachon123]

when merged, he looks like this

That's his Multi-Headed Form.

 

[TimmyTurnero]

What’s even the argument? Is he trying to scale the whole verse to the moon jump?

 

[ByAsura]

Anyway, bothering with this gremlinery isn't worth it anymore. I'm going to focus on the CRTs I have going on.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

No he doesn't. The databook outright shows that he looks like what I showed (to the point where it's the same image).

This is why he has 5 sets of eyes instead of 2 to 4.

****
anyways, nobody scales to merged melz regardless, the only thing you got from that was embarrassing me temporarily

 

[Kachon123]

At this point we should just scale the ship's durability to the KE of the moon jump, rather than the crater that was on the moon, then we can get some consistent ratings of ~7-A

 

[TimmyTurnero]

****
anyways, nobody scales to merged melz

PPP pulverized him with his punches.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

What’s even the argument? Is he trying to scale the whole verse to the moon jump?

if by the whole verse you mean 3 characters, then yeah, the whole verse

At this point we should just scale the ship's durability to the KE of the moon jump, rather than the crater that was on the moon, then we can get some consistent ratings of ~7-A

It would have lost basically 0 momentum due to the sheer force of it, so that's not really an option

 

[ByAsura]

Melz's durability definitely doesn't scale to his AP.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

PPP pulverized him with his punches.

pre MA arc Iaian cut him into diced tomatoes and got his arm torn off moments later.
He literally already has black sperm type durability listed on his profile, so you should already be aware that this argument sucks.

 

[ByAsura]

I agree, but Iaian isn't scaled to BS at that point.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

I agree, but Iaian isn't scaled to BS at that point.

I just meant black sperm type dura as in melz has striking strength that completely outclasses his durability, so they're kinda similar like that

 

[TimmyTurnero]

pre MA arc Iaian cut him into diced tomatoes and got his arm torn off moments later.
He literally already has black sperm type durability listed on his profile, so you should already be aware that this argument sucks.

I haven’t read his profile or the manga in a while. That was completely unnecessary.
Anyone could say your constant wank is ass but we entertain it instead.

 

[ByAsura]

Oh, I thought you were referring to Iaian's AP justification placing him on the level ('type') of BS. My mistake.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

I haven’t read his profile or the manga in a while. That was completely unnecessary.
Anyone could say your constant wank is ass but we entertain it instead.

well you came passive aggressive out the gate with not reading my argument and being like "this guy's trying to scale the whole verse to the moon jump" vs Asura just discussing like normal.
so you can see why I'm not a fan of this argument of yours....especially when I'm 80% sure I've also told you this exact same thing in the past about melza's durability.

 

[ByAsura]

Y'all, let's just calm the **** down before this goes anywhere.

 

[Kachon123]

Asura, what are your thoughts on scaling the ship to the KE of the jump rather than the crater?

 

[TimmyTurnero]

well you came passive aggressive out the gate with not reading my argument and being like "this guy's trying to scale the whole verse to the moon jump"

No? I just asked if that’s what you were doing.

 

[Kachon123]

The crater is more LS than AP anyways, as it's a result of the force of his legs pushing downwards, and not an impact.

 

[ByAsura]

Disagree, but I also really don't give a shit at this point.

You have my blessing.

Although, even the KE of the ship itself is something like Large Island level in that instance.

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Asura, what are your thoughts on scaling the ship to the KE of the jump rather than the crater?

I thought we scaled the ship off of it being rotated by the jump?