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Pfff nobody is wanking anything on MHA's side, they are 7-A because we wanted to low-ball them for the time being, and good luck with that.
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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Damage on his way to downgrade the entire wiki at any given opportunity:
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Will be responding to Clover soon regarding that, but not currently convinced of it.
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That's funny because I see people trying for upgrades every single day.
This is karma for everytime peeps try some wack ass upgrade.
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At this point I just want rover upgrades
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Same
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To summarise the discussions above, tons of the old feats have gone to shit.
Everyone be on the lookout for new feats above 7-C or High 7-C (barring high/god-tier stuff). This is the level every character from BoS Genos to Golden Sperm will be at unless we get new material.
Everyone be on the lookout for new feats above 7-C or High 7-C (barring high/god-tier stuff). This is the level every character from BoS Genos to Golden Sperm will be at unless we get new material.
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Okay well we’re still gonna have to scale golden sperm to high 7-A, so that shouldn’t be a problem
Here’s a feat that I never got closure on
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Okay well we’re still gonna have to scale golden sperm to high 7-A, so that shouldn’t be a problem
Here’s a feat that I never got closure on
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Why would GS scale?Okay well we’re still gonna have to scale golden sperm to high 7-A, so that shouldn’t be a problem
Here’s a feat that I never got closure on
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From literally blocking an attack from a high 7-A sword with minor damage
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I gurantee you, he won't be upgraded based on that.
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Because you love to take Ls
but anyways there are alternative supporting routes for scaling golden sperm to homeless emperor
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You're aware the High 7-A feat is temperature based right?
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still a high 7-A feat
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anyways my ultimate plan for upgrades is to scale Geryuganshoop above tatsumaki
it will be incredible
it will be incredible
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Murata: Geryuganshoop would never win against Orochi
Tats: Defeats Psyorochi
Tats: Defeats Psyorochi
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Also Murata in the very same statement: "It is still unsure if tatsumaki can defeat orochi"
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you see now? Geryuganshoop is the slept on GOAT psychic
he has statements of being the strongest psychic in the universe, the only thing stopping it from being a reality is Murata's unreliable (and technically non canon) opinions
Another Geryuganshoop W
he has statements of being the strongest psychic in the universe, the only thing stopping it from being a reality is Murata's unreliable (and technically non canon) opinions
Another Geryuganshoop W
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Because Psykorochi didn’t exist when that statement was made and Tatsumaki’s best feat at the time wasn’t that much stronger than Orochi.
Acknowledge the full context of the statement.
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and it is still irrelevant, because Murata is not actually a valid higher authority on the scaling
when Murata's words [which are just his opinion according to Murata himself] contradict the story, then the canon statements take priority
and we have canon statements that show geryuganshoop is stronger than tatsumaki.
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Err, we do?
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Guidebook
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Also murata himself lightly contradicts the idea that tats is stronger
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11/5/2018
Q: So the pebble throwing of Geryganshoop is stronger than Tatsumaki’s?
A: Well... I drew it with the thought that it is right, but I don’t know whether the thought is the same with ONE sensei’s official setting. Anyway, I draw enemies as powerful as possible when they appear, so there is a possibility that I overstated him a bit more than ONE sensei’s setting, so at the time I drew the Geryuganshoop’s pebble throwing, I wanted him to be more powerful than her in some way.
He clearly is not a good source for geryu’s scaling
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11/5/2018
Q: So the pebble throwing of Geryganshoop is stronger than Tatsumaki’s?A: Well... I drew it with the thought that it is right, but I don’t know whether the thought is the same with ONE sensei’s official setting. Anyway, I draw enemies as powerful as possible when they appear, so there is a possibility that I overstated him a bit more than ONE sensei’s setting, so at the time I drew the Geryuganshoop’s pebble throwing, I wanted him to be more powerful than her in some way.
He clearly is not a good source for geryu’s scaling
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unrelated but according to Murata, evil eye is legit stronger than Fubuki
Murata: Well, actually, it's just a powerful psychic. It is stronger than Fubuki ... In this fight, it wants the eyes of Fubuki and Tatsumaki, which brings out the anger of Tatsumaki.
T/N: Murata is referring to Jagan/Evil Eye
Murata: Well, actually, it's just a powerful psychic. It is stronger than Fubuki ... In this fight, it wants the eyes of Fubuki and Tatsumaki, which brings out the anger of Tatsumaki.
T/N: Murata is referring to Jagan/Evil Eye
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Considering the guidebook came out in 2015, there's a fairly good chance it is outdated by now. Gery may have been considered stronger than Tatsumaki back then long before we actually got a reveal of what Tatsumaki was capable of.
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Once again, you’re ignoring the context of the statement. This is a follow-up to when he said this:
Which is why in the interview from 11/5/2018, he says that he wanted Geryuganshoop to be stronger than her in some way, referring to his ability to throw things at sub-light speed while Tatsumaki can’t because her output would be too powerful (which directly puts her raw power above Gery btw).
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Well that seems like something that would need to be proved, since it’s not the default that statements of someone being stronger are automatically dated due to it coming before a feat happened, we’d need evidence for that
although at least, that should comfortably scale scale Geryuganshoop above Tatsumaki’s feats from the dark matter fight
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It does not put her raw power above him in any way, actually
it just means that if tatsumaki and Geryuganshoop throw with the same power, then Geryuganshoop’s would actually work due to eliminating friction, while Tatsumaki’s would be too strong to work without eliminating friction
also I should mention that this automatically means that the kinetic energy of Geryuganshoop’s attacks are always > Tatsumaki throwing small objects anyways, so if we have tatsumaki throwing small objects ever and damaging a high 6-A character….then yknow, it would mean geryu is capable of stronger attacks.
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+ it’s supported by the fact that he did indeed break some throne room rubble….
There is absolutely no way Geryuganshoop isn’t high 6-A, whether it be scaling above tatsumaki, or scaling from the lesser high 6-A value. There is a great case to be made.
There is absolutely no way Geryuganshoop isn’t high 6-A, whether it be scaling above tatsumaki, or scaling from the lesser high 6-A value. There is a great case to be made.
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There isn’t a single part of that statement where Murata mentions them throwing with the same power. He said if they threw them in the same way (which, in context, means at the same speed), then Tatsumaki’s output would be too powerful while Gery has the ability to eliminate the friction between whatever’s being thrown and the air. There is literally no way where you can interpret this to mean Gery’s stronger, or even equal to Tatsumaki
And when has Tatsumaki harmed a High 6-A by throwing small objects? Oh yeah, never. This is a non-point (and also, Gery being able to throw things faster doesn’t necessarily mean his attacks will have greater kinetic energy, you would have to prove that whatever he’s throwing has greater mass, which you can’t).
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Ironically, that wouldn’t even be an upgrade, because her stopping the bullets is 6-C, and a lower level of 6-C than Gery’s sub-light rock throwing.
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That’s arbitrary as hell
anyways tatsumaki was stronger than Ororchi during the time of the fight, we even accept tatsumaki having a possibly rating of that high 6-A for in-training saitama, so why wouldn’t we just take Geryuganshoop having a very clear statement or two putting him directly above Tatsumaki
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Probably one of the feats that get recalced most often. It went from High 6-C to Low 6-B to 7-B to 6-C
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I did not say that MHA has wanked characteristics.
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When did it get recalced to 7-B? I don’t remember that.
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And yet we use Murata’s statement to calc Geryu’s KE for his AP, but you don’t account for the fact that Geryu can throw small objects faster than Tatsumaki can throw those small objects, which would directly scale his KE above Tatsumaki’s with small objects
But more importantly, we literally have statements that Geryu is the strongest psychic in the universe
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Wait, and did you just completely dodge the fact that Murata literally states that he drew it with the intention that Geryu’s pebble throwing would be stronger than Tatsumaki’s pebble throwing?
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This is the worst best worst verse to ever touch this website
I want it to keep a single rating….FOR TWO ******* DAYS
