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I mean even before the redraw he just resurrected twice and the injuries he regenerated/resurrected from weren't anything impressive
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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Phoenix Man already had been established as pretty much cadre level in terms of importance based on the way he acted in other scenes and how he talked to gyoro gyoro so I wouldn’t really call him a random monster.
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I mean based on the show, he can also survive being electrocuted and fried to death, and comes back like nothing happened
so most likely it’s still just as potent as before
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That's just his invisibility.
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what? tatsumaki just didnt even attack him, he wont scale even if he didnt take any damage.
he was being attacked by his own attack
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How long until the high 7-A flashy flash crt
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Really? She was throwing something at him, how is that not scaling?
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she did just reflected it.
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Yeah what happened with that? I thought they will be scaling from Atomic Samurai's High 7-A Sun Blade.
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Pretty sure damage is the one advocating for low 7-B platinum sperm but I could be wrong
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by the way, I think there’s a good case for a possible Boros upscale for orochi now
The main thing that I think has been overlooked is the statement in ch123(cübærî) of saitama having fought monster association level threats before
in other words, he called Boros the strongest he’d ever fought AFTER he possibly fought someone on Orochi’s level
also there’s the flashy flash saitama interaction where flashy flash mentions monster king orochi and then saitama’s like “hey maybe he’s that one guy’s parents, from the name it sounds pretty strong” which not only means that saitama didn’t even notice that orochi was the leader, but also indirectly says that he isn’t strong in that interaction (he calls him “bath monster”)
Possible good ending for Boros fans
The main thing that I think has been overlooked is the statement in ch123(cübærî) of saitama having fought monster association level threats before
in other words, he called Boros the strongest he’d ever fought AFTER he possibly fought someone on Orochi’s level
also there’s the flashy flash saitama interaction where flashy flash mentions monster king orochi and then saitama’s like “hey maybe he’s that one guy’s parents, from the name it sounds pretty strong” which not only means that saitama didn’t even notice that orochi was the leader, but also indirectly says that he isn’t strong in that interaction (he calls him “bath monster”)
Possible good ending for Boros fans
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Boros should scale above Orochi regardless
The gap between the Boros battle and Orochi battle is like a little over a month at most
To try and argue that Saitama a month prior to one shotting Orochi would struggle with him any capacity is just brain dead tbh
Treating Boros like a strong dude who nearly gave him a real fight>>>>>>Treating Orochi like a literal misbehaving child who he proceeds to one shot
The gap between the Boros battle and Orochi battle is like a little over a month at most
To try and argue that Saitama a month prior to one shotting Orochi would struggle with him any capacity is just brain dead tbh
Treating Boros like a strong dude who nearly gave him a real fight>>>>>>Treating Orochi like a literal misbehaving child who he proceeds to one shot
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No shit he can
Doesn't change the fact Boros still pushed him more than anyone but Garou did especially given we now have a quantifiable limit to Saitama's power level
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boros didnt push him anywhere, tf are you saying?No shit he can
Doesn't change the fact Boros still pushed him more than anyone but Garou did especially given we now have a quantifiable limit to Saitama's power level
high 6-a vs 4-a
wake up from your dream, boros is not narratively superior to orochi, even saitama’s growth just reinforces this.
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saitama was just jumping around meanwhile boros was using all of his power to hit the air, tatsumaki is actually doing much better against a “playful” saitama than what boros did lol and the fight isnt even finished yetNo shit he can
Doesn't change the fact Boros still pushed him more than anyone but Garou did especially given we now have a quantifiable limit to Saitama's power level
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"Boros is not narratively superior to Orochi"
Tatsumaki is actually doing better against Saitama than Boros did"
This is actually just straight up delusion
I ain't in the mood to type up an essay, it's midnight and I got work in the morning
Maybe when I get home tomorrow
Peace
Tatsumaki is actually doing better against Saitama than Boros did"
This is actually just straight up delusion
I ain't in the mood to type up an essay, it's midnight and I got work in the morning
Maybe when I get home tomorrow
Peace
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bro, i dont even get your points."Boros is not narratively superior to Orochi"
Tatsumaki is actually doing better against Saitama than Boros did"
This is actually just straight up delusion
I ain't in the mood to type up an essay, it's midnight and I got work in the morning
Maybe when I get home tomorrow
Peace
even boros soldiers said that the earth is different from every other planet that they has ever seen.
orochi was meant to be buffed by god, who is massively above boros
like, what the **** makes you think that hes is superior in anyway? like, NOTHING
just simping a dead and irrelevant character
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I agree with the argument that Boros is narratively, MOST LIKELY still among the very top-tier's, below only Blast group tier characters and such, beyond Orochi, Tats, etc.. But there is a lacking amount of actual, visible evidence to CONCRETELY prove it. So I also more strongly agree with the additional opinion that we should just leave Boros the way he is and not have the 156th argument about this dead topic when it isn't going to change anything. Why does it even matter so much? We are arguing about a number displayed on a fanmade page for a fictional character from a fictional story that has been dead within the context of that story for so long that he isn't even relevant anymore. Like, having an argument like this over, say, Garou, would make sense, because he's a vastly more significant character to the story that still matters even now. Boros on the other hand was a cool villain at the time but is no longer relevant to the story.
As a fellow Borosbro, we need to move on.
Personally, I have chosen to now be a Pig GodBro, and will soon propose my CRT argument for why Pig God is 3-A at least.
As a fellow Borosbro, we need to move on.
Personally, I have chosen to now be a Pig GodBro, and will soon propose my CRT argument for why Pig God is 3-A at least.
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this is the point. Boros is no longer relevant, and manga’s powerlevels just got buffed, people CAN’T really see it.
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Boros would still somewhat be relevant if he WAS alive, of course. But I do think people really exaggerate how "well" he performed against Saitama. Sure he was the first opponent to get actual praise and acknowledgement, as well as the first to survive an unrestrained Normal Punch. But he wasn't supposed to be some comparable opponent that could actually make Saitama sweat a bit under the right circumstances (that would be CF Garou, maybe). If Saitama REALLY wanted him gone, the fight WOULD have been over in one punch.
It was less of a "Saitama wanted to kill him but Boros lived and kept him impressed" and more of a "Saitama didn't really care, putting in his usual effort which wasn't quite enough, and was mildly surprised at the fact that Boros was so much stronger than his other opponents so far, acknowledging that Boros was actually a noteworthy opponent".
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I do think Boros is by all means stronger than Orochi and I do think the argument for why can hold up, but having that argument is fruitless and frustrating. Him being stronger than Tatsumaki is the more difficult debate to be had, but that discussion is banned altogether so 
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There's just this sort of line where you're either able to gain Saitama's acknowledgement, or you're not. Generally speaking characters on the level of Orochi, Monster Garou, Boros, etc. seem to be on that level. But that's kinda where the debate between Orochi Vs. Boros begins. Because he hardly acknowledges Orochi who is played off like a joke, whereas he does fully acknowledge Boros and says multiple times that he is strong, with the demise of Boros being played off as a serious and emotional scene. So while I DON'T want to have that discussion again, you can probably see where the argument stems from, if nothing else. Besides which, the only reason why it's a debate is because of the Gaia Cannon feat. Outside of that, Orochi has nothing putting him remotely near the level of Boros.
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Anyways this is what I said before it got kinda derailed
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Cause I mean the statement is “a threat of this scale” which could be referring to only the cadres, but that’s incredibly unrealistic given that Boros alone is ridiculously above the cadre so it obviously doesn’t mean “the cadre are a threat on the scale of Boros”
So given that, Boros is likely scaling above Orochi due to being called the strongest opponent that he had ever fought until that point, and the statement implying that there was an opponent on orochi’s level
Boros: Likely at least multi continent level (stated to be the strongest opponent saitama has ever fought, after saitama had dealt with threats on the scale of the monster association, putting him above Orochi’s power. Saitama called him strong on multiple occasions and considered him “almost a real fight”, while Saitama implied Orochi to not be strong during his conversation with flashy flash)
Or something like that, but worded better.
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I’d like to see what people think of this before taking it to crt
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Yeah this seems to make sense to me
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It's kind of meaningless since Saitama didn't fully confirm that Boros was the strongest, just that it's a possibility after he'd already used Meteoric Burst and launched the CSRC.
Also, your logic just doesn't make sense considering that it's literally about the S-Class facing monsters who make them feel fear, and Orochi was dead.
Also, your logic just doesn't make sense considering that it's literally about the S-Class facing monsters who make them feel fear, and Orochi was dead.
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Yes. Let's make a CRT about it.
Please Damage have mercy on my soul, don't destroy this for me.
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I mean he called Borors strong though. All this argument needs is that Saitama thinks Orochi is weak, and Boros is strong.
This doesn't really counter any of the points made though...
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Haven't we had a million upgrade and downgrade CRTs about this? I personally choose not to involve myself in them.
It literally does. There's no references to Orochi that you can gleam from the statement, which is what Ziller was claiming.
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