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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

ByAsura said:
we don't even accept the graph as 1:1 right now, but they don't even mention or imply any kind of substantial/notable power boost until the Garou fight on Io. So I don't think it's worth it.
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The fact that it was stated as exponential is enough
all exponential graphs have an insanely low rate of growth in the beginning of them, so I don’t think there’s even a shred of evidence that could suggest saitama was lower than 4-A in the moments before the serious punch
 
Kachon123 said:
Still would have been a growth, so it's not accurate to say the SSP^2 was reflective of his strength prior to him knowing of Genos' death.
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You can take it this 2 ways:

1. Saitama started to grow since the very moment he knew of Genos' death, which covers why Garou had to copy Saitama one more time before the exponential chart chapter in order to match him. This means Saitama used his 100% power on that punch
2. Saitama's growth only started to affect the battle once Garou reached the same power Saitama had (that's not an assumption, it's stated). This means even if Saitama was growing then (exponentially or not) it didn't affect the fight as he still was holding back. This means the SSSP^2 wasn't Saitama's full power and that he didn't begin to use it until I.O. Moon (when he stated that he can go all out against an enemy that can hold against his full strength), and the exponential growth didn't appear until next chapter because it wasn't until then that Garou copied Saitama's full power.

2 seems more logical to me, but it feels weird Saitama held back in SSSP^2

Edit: Welp, you can interpret it on a third different way tbf: SSSP^2 was Saitama's full power, after which he started to grow because he was matched, which covers why he's stronger. But since Saitama doesn't know he's constantly growing (as he stated with King that he cannot grow anymore) he thought he wasn't using his 100% and started to "use it". Then, since Garou didn't use his power mimicry for all the chapter, he got completely stomped by the new full-power Saitama. And then, in the chapter where the exponential chart appears, since he's constantly copying Saitama's strength to match him in strength and speed, Saitama got continuously matched, until his growth did the job and left Garou into the dust.

That'd mean Saitama's growth is in fact bigger than we though: as it could pass from a matched punch (SSSP^2) to shitstomp Garou in a matter of seconds, to then start increasing Saitama's power exponentially to the point the gap between Saitama and Garou (with Saitama's full power a bit time before Saitama punched him) keeps getting greater and greater
 
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If nothing else, we could just change the key name to something like Serious Punch2, post-garou fight, etc rather than making a 5th cluttered key based entirely on non-serious feats during his fight with Garou. I don't really care or agree to this, but it's an option.
ZillertheBucko said:
The fact that it was stated as exponential is enough
all exponential graphs have an insanely low rate of growth in the beginning of them, so I don’t think there’s even a shred of evidence that could suggest saitama was lower than 4-A in the moments before the serious punch
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It's stated that the growth itself is exponential, not necessarily the graph representing his increases. For example, each punch could triple his power (for example, 30 joules, 90 joules, 270 joules) rather than incremental (i.e, 30 joules, 60 joules, 90 joules), but the graph itself could use linear numbers on the axes.

But I digress because it seems that nobody agrees with Kachon's suggestion.
 
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I'd argue it was, but it's just an example rather than anything integral to my point, since the later parts of the graph make up a leaning curve.
 
At this point, it’s probably going to be inevitable that the void Panel is going to be explained to be something else that isn’t the destruction of millions of stars. The Jupiter sneeze is hyped up to be the best feat in the series in story, while no one talks about the void, by no one I mean genos. And Blast and their team was there, they would Probably have mention it if it was there. I guess that can be explained away if destroying clusters of stars is something they deal with on a norm.

I’ve come to hate that feat honestly.
 
ByAsura said:
usual cope arguments, ngl
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“UsUal cOPe ComMEnTS”

besides the fact that this is how you sound to me, nothing there is cope. It literally is dumb that the feat is ignored and the Jupiter feat is what is focused on in the story.

If you think thats cope, I have no idea what cope means to you. If you think I’m ignoring the feat, then you misread what I said.
 
Ovrhide said:
The Jupiter sneeze is hyped up to be the best feat in the series in story
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Not really. It's presented more as a side effect of Saitama's newly increased strength level, much like how his farts alone can propel him part-way across the solar system. The feat in and of itself isn't the hype, it's the fact that he did it by sneezing.

'But Garou evaded it'. He later gets directly punched in the face by a very pissed off Saitama who's at least as strong as when he performed the Jupiter feat and not performing some convulsive response.

There's also the King statement, but that's not a sign of power. That's a sign of how unlikely Genos' story seems to people who aren't anywhere close to that level. Within the series, Saitama already far surpassed the sandbag moon scale with his first Serious Punch (since King's sandbag hype derived from the moon crater) and the Earth-shattering SP2.
Ovrhide said:
while no one talks about the void, by no one I mean genos. And Blast and their team was there, they would Probably have mention it if it was there. I guess that can be explained away if destroying clusters of stars is something they deal with on a norm.
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Let's get something straight here, first of all; the audience are (with few exceptions) inherently given a more omniscient perception than the characters within the narrative. The fact that we can see the stars and know they're destroyed doesn't extend to Genos, Blast and his team, the latter of whom don't even know where the weakest part of the blast sent Saitama and Garou.

Secondly, Genos wouldn't even know that millions of stars were missing because Saitama and the core were sent in opposite directions to the explosion at the exact same time as it was directed outward.

So, yeah, it's very very likely, practically stated outright, that the characters didn't even know this happened at all (or at least the Blast Squad weren't apprised to it as of that moment in the timeline), especially when you factor in that the speed of light is an established thing in the series.
Ovrhide said:
“UsUal cOPe ComMEnTS”

besides the fact that this is how you sound to me, nothing there is cope. It literally is dumb that the feat is ignored and the Jupiter feat is what is focused on in the story.

If you think thats cope, I have no idea what cope means to you. If you think I’m ignoring the feat, then you misread what I said.
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Mentioned by characters =/= ignored within the story.

'I’ve come to hate that feat honestly.' Kinda sorta seems like cope to me, and these are the exact same arguments (like word for word) we've heard from lots of people. But if that wasn't the case, then I'm sorry.
 
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Ovrhide said:
Blatantly true. Saitama was going to erase the earth if it wasnt for someone Like blast. He was not holding back his rage.
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go reread the moment they arrived on io, saitama literally says he was holding back not to destroy earth (it was going to be destroyed anyway but doesn't change the fact that he held back)
 
ByAsura said:
Not really. It's presented more as a side effect of Saitama's newly increased strength level, much like how his farts alone can propel him part-way across the solar system. The feat in and of itself isn't the hype, it's the fact that he did it by sneezing.

'But Garou evaded it'. He later gets directly punched in the face by a very pissed off Saitama who's at least as strong as when he performed the Jupiter feat.

There's also the King statement, but that's not a sign of power. That's a sign of how unlikely Genos' story seems to people who aren't anywhere close to that level. Within the series, Saitama already far surpassed this scale with his first Serious Punch and the Earth-shattering SP2.

Let's get something straight here, first of all; the audience are (with few exceptions) inherently given a more omniscient perception than the characters within the narrative. The fact that we can see the stars and know they're destroyed doesn't extend to Genos, Blast and his team, the latter of whom don't even know where the weakest part of the blast sent Saitama and Garou.

Secondly, Genos wouldn't even know that millions of stars were missing because Saitama and the core were sent in opposite directions to the explosion at the exact same time as it was directed outward.

So, yeah, it's very very likely that the characters didn't even know this happened at all (or at least the Blast Squad weren't apprised to it as of that moment in the timeline), especially when you factor in that the speed of light is an established thing in the series.

Mentioned by characters =/= ignored within the story.

'I’ve come to hate that feat honestly.' Kinda sorta seems like cope to me, and these are the exact same arguments (like word for word) we've heard from lots of people. But if that wasn't the case, then I'm sorry.
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And here I thought you were going to show me why my argument was cope when this shit is literally on the same level as mine.

weak by your standards. Considering if I didn’t comment first, I could use a modified version of my post to counter this.

my guy, maybe you should have not commented without reading Clearly first before commenting.
 
ByAsura said:
Not really. It's presented more as a side effect of Saitama's newly increased strength level, much like how his farts alone can propel him part-way across the solar system. The feat in and of itself isn't the hype, it's the fact that he did it by sneezing.
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Tiny correction but his farts didn't accomplish that. He just caught up to Garou and went through the same portal as him.
 
Sus said:
go reread the moment they arrived on io, saitama literally says he was holding back not to destroy earth (it was going to be destroyed anyway but doesn't change the fact that he held back)
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I re-read to give you benifit, turns out you are the one who didn’t read, cause no where did he say he held back to not destroy the planet.
 
Ovrhide said:
I re-read to give you benifit, turns out you are the one who didn’t read, cause no where did he say he held back to not destroy the planet.
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can't send pics on the forum so
ch 167 page 16
Saitama says "oh well, at least i can let loose"
 
Damage3245 said:
Tiny correction but his farts didn't accomplish that. He just caught up to Garou and went through the same portal as him.
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true. but my point about his bodily functions alone being far more destructive due to his boosted power holds up.
 
How would the same not apply to a fight on Earth? I'm really not getting your line of reasoning here.
 
Sus said:
it would apply as he wasn't using his full power on earth to beat garou but on io he can
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No. The context is Garous durability. Not earth. Take the L here. It’s not like it changes anything cause just like full power saitama overwhelmed Garou on I.O, Garou was overwhelmed in that clash as well.
 
Sus said:
it would apply as he wasn't using his full power on earth to beat garou but on io he can
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That's just repeating the subject as if it's evidence in and of itself.

Edit: This came off a little too aggressive, in hindsight. That wasn't my intention.

The argument I'm trying to make (not even argument, literally something stated by the next text bubble) is that he's not referring to the damage to Earth, he's referring to the fact that he finally has an opponent so durable that he can finally use 100% of his power while attacking them.

He literally says 'at full power against a guy who can stay up'. There's no equivocation here.
 
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The biggest issue with this series is that there’s essentially no watchdog man
we literally have more screentime for god than watchdog man
And I don’t think he appears again in the webcomic either
So sad that the best S class hero will literally have to wait years to shine, but it may very well be the biggest payoff in the history of fiction
 
ZillertheBucko said:
The biggest issue with this series is that there’s essentially no watchdog man
we literally have more screentime for god than watchdog man
And I don’t think he appears again in the webcomic either
So sad that the best S class hero will literally have to wait years to shine, but it may very well be the biggest payoff in the history of fiction
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He appears again in the wc but just as a cameo
 
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