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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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I still don't think we should scale EC because of this. It isn't like a single rocket could damage the HQ anyways.
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Not of something this size.
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In the image, we can see individual explosions doing damage to the HQ. That same HQ is most likely stronger than the one that didn't have a scratch from a 7-A+ attack. EC def scales.
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Is it doing damage to the HQ, or are they just hitting the HQ? Because we have clear examples of demon level threats blasting it with similar explosions but doing no damage.
Like his full arsenal taking it down is fine, but trying to scale any random weapon to it seems like a bad idea.
A MBT can't one shot the Pentagon. But get a few hundred of them with bombers and artillery and eventually they'll pound through.
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If it is saying that he is able to damage it, and It shows individual missiles and bombs making explosions, why isn't it safe to assume that each of them are doing damage?
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Doing damage after a bombardment isn't the same as character punching through the building in one shot.
Like none of his weapons are scaling to the 800+ megaton building in total. They can have 1 megaton attacks but hit it ten thousand times and eventually whittle it down.
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Isn't that image hypothetical though?
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It's saying that if someone were to have access to MK's weapons, they would be able to damage or possibly destroy the building.
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Yeah, and it's shown to have multiple weapons attacking it, not just one
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Anyone can see that.
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We don't even see the main combat drone attacking. We see bombers and walking turrets with far larger missiles/energy weapons.
Drive Knight even talks about missile codes, implying they'd use the kind of tactical/ICBMs we have (presumably far more advanced, though).
Metal Knight's normal missiles, as powerful as they are, shouldn't scale. Let's just wait for the translations.
Drive Knight even talks about missile codes, implying they'd use the kind of tactical/ICBMs we have (presumably far more advanced, though).
Metal Knight's normal missiles, as powerful as they are, shouldn't scale. Let's just wait for the translations.
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Goo Orochi doesn't have the surface area necessary to take the entire energy of the attack.
Genos doesn't have a possibly 7-A rating normally, his most powerful attack just scales to Elder Centipede.
Why is 7-B wrong? It's many, many times higher than Bug God.
Genos doesn't have a possibly 7-A rating normally, his most powerful attack just scales to Elder Centipede.
Why is 7-B wrong? It's many, many times higher than Bug God.
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Nvm. I read some of other pages. It is already discussed
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Darkshine managed to damage the inside of the HA HQ by throwing some guy at it would this count towards scaling?
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Is there proof the insides are made of the same Metal?Darkshine managed to damage the inside of the HA HQ by throwing some guy at it would this count towards scaling?
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Visually it looks the same and in the anime its even colored the same.
top right panel looks like metal.
The shot right after darkshine hit that guy into the wall looks like metal. The small panels in the bottom corners behind him you can see metal grooves or plates idk what they would be called.
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Yes I agree the insides are made from the same material. It's consistent with season 1 too.
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This would scale to Darkshine, Post darkshine HM Garou, AB Bang, Post-Molt EC and Genos' Ultra spiral incineration cannon right?
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Given that Darkshine was super casual here, couldn't we scale characters who are close to that level? (Rover, HM Garou...)
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Yes. As well as Flashy Flash and The Strongest S Class Hero: Atomic Samurai.
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Why Rover or HM? Darkshine demolished the latter and the former has no reason to scale to Darkshine
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HM Garou took multiple attacks from Darkshine and even deflected one of his strikes. This is before he went 100% so a non serious Darkshine<HM Garou<Full Power Darkshine.
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Garou got up right after getting hit by many attacks, HM Garou just woke up and continued to fight even better. He took more attacks from DS as well,
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Firstly, why are we scaling deflection to AP all of a sudden? A less skilled and powerful Garou was able to deflect strikes that would have incapacitated him.
Secondly, Darkshine wasn’t even remotely serious, at first. When he did get serious, Garou was powerless and had his ribcage shattered by an attack that he couldn’t even reflect with Bang and Bomb’s combined techniques.
Lastly, as I said, Darkshine shattered his ribcage. Rover couldn’t do that to Garou even before he’d adapted to Psykos (someone who immobilised him prior) or Orochi.
I do strongly doubt HM Garou, Rover, Bomb and Bang (excluding Awakened Bang, ofc) are like 10x weaker than Darkshine, but they’re not comparable. At the very least, I’d definitely downscale them to Mountain level. I think this is reasonable because DS’ attack did more to Psykos than Bomb and Bang’s combo.
Secondly, Darkshine wasn’t even remotely serious, at first. When he did get serious, Garou was powerless and had his ribcage shattered by an attack that he couldn’t even reflect with Bang and Bomb’s combined techniques.
Lastly, as I said, Darkshine shattered his ribcage. Rover couldn’t do that to Garou even before he’d adapted to Psykos (someone who immobilised him prior) or Orochi.
I do strongly doubt HM Garou, Rover, Bomb and Bang (excluding Awakened Bang, ofc) are like 10x weaker than Darkshine, but they’re not comparable. At the very least, I’d definitely downscale them to Mountain level. I think this is reasonable because DS’ attack did more to Psykos than Bomb and Bang’s combo.
Seems ok, then.
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The argument is if HM Garou should scale to Darkshine's feat of very casually destroying the interior of the HQ. Darkshine definitely tried more in this attack, this attack, and this whole attack (All of which Garou got up from), than he did when doing this.
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I think they're too high up to downscale to just Mountain level, I'd say an "At most" is better in this case instead of downscaling
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Those first two literally had him vomiting blood, which proves even a casual DS >> Garou, and the other one was the Tackle I mentioned that completely shattered his his ribcage.
@Emirp As I said, even their combo is inferior to one of DS’ attacks. 550 mt is Mountain level+, and they’d be over 400 if they’re half DS.
@Emirp As I said, even their combo is inferior to one of DS’ attacks. 550 mt is Mountain level+, and they’d be over 400 if they’re half DS.
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I'm not saying he fully scales. I'm just saying that we can't completely discredit the fact that Garou got up from all of those attacks right after and kept attacking Darkshine. I agree with Garou having an "At most" rating.
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That's just stamina. In no way, should he even scale to that last one. I certainly wouldn't call, getting my ribs shattered as durability justification
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How are you going to say that getting hit with all of those moves, when with 2 of the 3 moves, Garou was just sleeping, and only the second one woke him up, is just stamina. That is complete downplay.
You clearly didn't read what I was saying because I never once stated that Garou should scale to any of those moves that Darkshine did. I'm saying that sin e Garou could survive 3 heavy attacks from Darkshine, he should at least scale to, or under Darkshine just throwing someone.
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I'm not saying that he tanked them or anything. I'm just trying to prove that Garou would have dura high enough to scale to Darkshine damaging the interior of the HQ.
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I'm saying the same thing.
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You’re saying at most. So we disagree a little, but that’s neither here nor there.
On another note, does Large Mountain level AB Bang and AB Garou seem reasonable?
Garou was already stronger DS at full power before Awakening, and grew even stronger due to copying Awakened Breath.
On another note, does Large Mountain level AB Bang and AB Garou seem reasonable?
Garou was already stronger DS at full power before Awakening, and grew even stronger due to copying Awakened Breath.
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Probably, I think Darkshine's dura can upscale to High 7-A
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