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I think the "suggested threat level" was what Smile Man was thinking when he got frozen. Withered Sprout is like a low demon in my opinion. Maybe even above tiger
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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Wait a sec what about choze? His energy ball was stronger than his dura.
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He's also threat level unknown, but he's not a dragon, and his energy ball is not stronger than his dura. You just can't compare these 3 characters
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I only mentioned him because he draws his energy from an external source.
The reason I say it scales above his dura is because it took everything Suiryu just to deflect it. His void fist which he puts his all into blew a hole through Choze.
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Meh, Choze's durability is comparable to Suiryu's and Suiryu held the energy ball back with his own hands. I'm sure Suiryu/Choze could have tanked/deflected/otherwise responded to the energy ball if they were fighting in a vaccuum, but Suiryu had to do what he did in order to save those people
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Link?
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It scales somewhat above him, yes, but it's not significant enough that it's the same like HE. Choze could still physically harm and contend with Suiryu. He's clearly not a glass cannon
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Oh I don't think Choze is a glass cannon. I'm just ready for blast to destroy universal dimension.
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Choze made Suiryu bleed with his strikes but not his energy blast iirc
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I almost get the feeling GOD might just be a glass cannon like Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet
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I think it just means the other monsters of the HoE.
I've always been of the opinion that he's on the same tier as Vaccine Man and Beefcake tho
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Also are we really arguing about Vaccine Man being a glass cannon? He tanks his own blasts.
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Yeah it could be that. It's not exactly clear what it is reffering, but it could just mean that it's referring to HOEmonsters and not monsters in general
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I don't recall that happening but I'll take your word for it, but his dura does scale as it does by default, and nothing contradicts it.
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That might be the case, but early in the paragraph CK is already stated to be the strongest fighter in the HoE. Why would they basically say the same thing twice in the next sentence.
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Hmm good observation. Maybe there is something to it.
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I guess a possibly or likely?
At least Low 7-B, possibly 7-B l At least Low 7-B, possibly 7-B to 7-A
At least Low 7-B, possibly 7-B l At least Low 7-B, possibly 7-B to 7-A
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I'd prefer more input on validity of the statement before applying tbh
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If anyone is questing if the databook is reliable or not. We use several statements from the book already like Mosquito Girl's telepathy having a range of 50 km, the meteor being abnormally durable, and info on the abilities of monsters who didn't get much screen time like Giant Crow and Groribas.
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Yes and no, some of the staff are keen on keeping the current calc. So likely no downgradr
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It's just a case by case basis basically. The reason we don't take any from the heroes is because a lot of their quotes are hyperbole
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Its funny that a lot of the entries for the heroes are hyperbole yet most of the entries on monsters seem to be reliable.
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His dura only scales to his PHYISCAL AP, not to his energy balls. He was only shown tanking his own blast once, and if I recall properly that crater was calced at 30 Kilotons some years ago, nothing like the explosion in the extra chapter, where we don't know what happened or the position he was in when the attack was produced.
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No? Many characters have their physicals scale to their energy attacks lol
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You can not prove VM's dura scales to his energy balls. It's like concentrated ki attacks in DBZ. VM's body works in a similar way. In conclusion, you can say CK is physically stronger than Beefacke or VM, but he shouldn't scale to the energy balls, that would be a risky assumption imo.
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uuuh VM was literally in the epicenter of one of his massive explosions when he first showed up and took no damage. I'm pretty sure the qualifies his durability scaling to his energy balls.
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That was a relatively weak explosion. It was calced at around 30 Kilotons some years ago. The one in the Gigaton range (bonus chapter) doesn't showcase if VM was in the epicenter or not.
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Why are you comparing VM to DBZ. I already stated durability scales to AP unless contradicted. Those are the wiki rules. However I do think his striking strength should be changed to unknownunknown as there is nothing to prove that.
How so? Even if he was a glass cannon, the fact that if VM had something that would make him stronger than CK despite the statement possibly saying otherwise is dumb.
Plus, I'm pretty sure they weren't being specific to only physicals
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Because VM's powers are ki-like based.
Besides, I remember some official translation saying he drew power from nature (I'm not referring to that "mother nature" claim from VM himself), so the energy balls might not be his own power, but rather the environment's.
Dude, it literally says "physical". How are energy balls involved here if you can't prove VM's dura scales to them (something he hasn't done with his greatest feat)?
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There's nothing to prove his energy balls are like ki tho. Ki has never been introduced in OPM
I'm pretty he doesn't draw power from nature, he was just created by nature.
As I state, his duratibility should automatically scale as it is not contradicted, this is literally placed on the durability page.
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Ok, if it's on the page let's just say it scales. Logically speaking, it shouldn't, you can not prove his dura scales to his energy balls because he hasn't done it with his strongest attack. It's like me tanking a 10% punch from Ngannou and saying my dura scales to his AP without even knowing if I could handle his 100% power.
Can someone confirm this? I believe there was a statement on reddit about VM drawing power from nature. Some months ago a user posted it here.
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He never has an ultimate attack of sorts tho
Imma check the manga later
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Which would make sense. The Hero Association is trying to hype up the s-class heroes, they don't have the same reasons to give monsters unnecessary credit.
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The hero association has no way of knowing about characters like Boros and Kabuto so it would make sense that their profiles are written more from an authorial perspective rather than the hero association trying to hype up their fighters.
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Not if the only thing they know about Carnage Kabuto is that he destroyed Genos. Sure they can hype him up to make it clear while Genos lost, but it would be better for PR if they never talked about the monsters that have wrecked heroes. It's not a good look when the s-class loses, that's discrediting the HA's finest and disillusioning people who think the s-class can protect them from anything
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