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Genos did refer to Suiryu as an s-class level fighter (the weakest s-class he had seen in action so far being Puri Puri, everyone else also being at least High 7-C), he did manage to harm a dragon level threat while injured and he has often been compared to Garou, a high demon. When he fought Garou in the OVA, Suiryu was on par with Garou as we had all been speculating- although it remains to be seen what would have happened if the fight continued after Garou got serious.
It could just mean they're likely comparable in skill only, I heavily doubt they're actually comparable in speed and AP via the simulator
 
But then, he got both of his legs broken by a casual Bakuzan.
Him acting casual doesn't mean he isn't using his full strength.
IIRC his fight with Garou in the OVA was counted as mostly a skill feat, since it is apparently not AP related.
iirc when Garou sped up the machine stopped working, meaning it was indeed taking into account physical factors. Suiryu also had his armbands, so he wasn't really giving his all.
 
I believe Bakuzan was casual because he didn't name his blows when he attacked Suiryu, but against Saitama, he did assault him with named attacks and it also seems that his blows were much heavier than before.

Suiryu's strongest attack also did absolutely nothing to Saitama before and Suiryu himself knew that. But even though he still believed that Bakuzan's attacks could harm Saitama, telling him to dodge Bakuzan. This indicates that Bakuzan is much stronger than Suiryu.

So, I'm not supporting Suiryu scales to Bakuzan, him being High 7-C seems plausible to me though. However; it seems that it will be hard to find a proper justification for him to be High 7-C.
 
Some characters are getting regen, that's nice. Hope that wasn't all of abandonment though. I think there's some real magic to the tanktop, Tanktop girl's strap snapped because she felt a disturbance in the tanktop force
 
Gums should get regen, TTM might get regen (or whatever Tanktop Magic that might be), Fuhrer Ugly should get large size and transformation (the current description on his profile is a bit messy).

So, the scaling in this chapter looks like Bang > Fuhrer Ugly =~ Gums (Genos is unclear, he seemed to be struggling with Gums's bite force so maybe they scale)
 
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So yeah it seems like Bang got nerfed a bit. Since even with abandonment Bang didn't one shot Gums or Fuhrer Ugly. But he was still beating the crap out of them.
 
I don't think Bang got nerf, he did pierce through its body but Gums survived because it has regen, something it didn't have in WC.
 
Huh so it seems like Pig God's secret weapon was mentioned in this chapter. So that's another things that is being hinted at earlier than usual.
 
I mean, it didn't even look like Bang was using Abandonment there, we're just assuming he did because he originally used it against them, even though the manga is not remotely the same as the webcomic. And it's not really implied from a visual standpoint either. On the contrary, Bang looks like he's just fighting normally.

Also, the feat he performed on Gums is pretty similar to what he did in the webcomic. It just means that manga Gums is tougher.
 
Before we say "Yeah Bang used Abandonment but didn't one shot them" or that he certainly didn't, we should wait for translations. Jumping to conclusions which may lead to long discussions is pointless when we just need to wait for more solid answers.
 
Yes, part of Abandonment is a breathing technique, what I'm saying is that him just breathing inward a bit isn't factual evidence that he used Abandonment. It's just an implication, and even then it only counts for anything because this is a scene where he originally did use it.
 
I still have absolutely no clue what you are trying to say here as that last sentence doesn't make any sense. So can you explain a bit clearly what you are trying to say with the last sentence?
 
? The whole point you're making of Bang breathing is only an implication of him using Abandonment, and the only reason why it's an implication rather than being irrelevant is because this is normally where he would use it. If you don't know what the word "implication" means, search it up.
 
Yeah that's better. Your original sentence was worded really weirdly so I had no idea what you were trying to say.
 
Yeah I think they changed the Abandonment scene. I'd imagine he'd use it later on when ENW and company come back.
So, the scaling in this chapter looks like Bang < Fuhrer Ugly =~ Gums
How did you read the chapter and get the impression that Bang isn't massively above both?
 
In the manga the cadres are all split up rather than together in the same area like in the webcomic. So this is likely the abandonment scene getting changed.
 
Bang used Abandonment and then pierced through Gums and brutalised Fuhrer Ugly makes sense to me. But let us wait to see whether or not he was actually using it.
 
Yeah I think they changed the Abandonment scene. I'd imagine he'd use it later on when ENW and company come back.

How did you read the chapter and get the impression that Bang isn't massively above both?
Well was Bang using the abandonment or not? Because if he really used abandonment, his performance now should be a tier above his regular ability- so he wouldn't be all that much better than regular FU or Gums in most cases. I'm hoping it wasn't abandonment because otherwise it would be quite disappointing.
 
Before we say "Yeah Bang used Abandonment but didn't one shot them" or that he certainly didn't, we should wait for translations. Jumping to conclusions which may lead to long discussions is pointless when we just need to wait for more solid answers.
Agreed, I hesitate to put Bang massively above these two because I'm not sure if he was doing all this in base, with a slight amp, or with a full amp.
 
Yeah I think they changed the Abandonment scene. I'd imagine he'd use it later on when ENW and company come back.

How did you read the chapter and get the impression that Bang isn't massively above both?
Oh good lord I put the greater sign backwards again. I wanted to say Bang was clearly superior to both of them
 
Dang, I'm slacking on the OPM chapters. I haven't read the chapter before this one, and still need to check the newest one out.
 
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