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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

SemiRaedi said:
I don't think we really use narratives lol, it's just based on the feats that happened in the webcomic, webcomic Tatsumaki won't be High 6-A with sub rel just because the stories are kinda the same therefore sonic scaling to her won't be based of her sub rel speed and sonic scaling to Flash won't be based of his rel speed.
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Yeah I understand that, I was just saying characters are going to be scaled differently in each version essentially. Kinda like how Suiryu scales to characters in the manga yet doesn't scale to them in the webcomic.
 
Huh so I found something rather interesting. Both the fan translation and official translation of this page here says monsters that are threat level demon or higher. But the original Japanese scan as well as three other Chinese translations I've read said 鬼以上 which actually means (Above Demon/Higher than Demon). And Bug God was on the list alongside the cadres soooo Bug God is apparently a Dragon not Demon.
 
Kin201 said:
He is a Demon-level threat. It was announced when he first appeared.
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Hey for all we know his threat lvl could've increased right before the battle like Rhino Wrestler. Either that or its referring to his 2nd form. But either way this list is definitely only talking about the dragons according to the raw. So Bug God is considered a dragon by Drive Knight and was put on the list alongside the cadres.
 
I know monsters such as Gale Wind and Hellfire Flame do get new threats level. But BG's official threat was revealed to be Demon. His threat being Dragon is Drive Knight's speculative.
 
I mean Rhino Wrestler already showed that its possible for the threat lvls to increase and there was a bit of timeskip between his fight with Garou and the Monster Association Arc. They never showed Bug God's current threat lvl and there's really no reason to believe Drive Knight is wrong considering how he has already fought dragon lvl threats like Nyan and could tell the other cadres are dragon lvl as well.

Although its not like this matters as he's still Low 7-B. I just decided to bring this up as its a rather interesting info.
 
Dragon or higher =/= God. Therefore, Demon or higher =/= Dragon. The cadres are different because they have official threats. I think that Bug God just happened to randomly appear in Drive Knight's data. It can also be interpreted that the disaster level ''Demon or Higher'' is referring to him whereas the disaster level ''Dragon'' is referring to the cadres.
 
以上 means above/more than and not or higher when used like this. You can plug it into a translator and see for yourself.

“鬼” 以上 (Oni ijō)

Although I guess what you're saying makes sense as 以上's katakana used here is also いじょう (ijō) the same katakana used to talk about above dragon when referring to Boros and Orochi.

So I guess this means Bug God is pretty much the strongest demon and incredibly close to dragon as he's technically considered an above demon even in Base.

Edit: Also wow I can't believe this means Above Demon is technically an actual thing.
 
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I completely agree with that interpretation. It fits BG's feats perfectly. Specially when a dragon level (self-proclaimed) HMgarou got damaged by Royal Ripper's attack, which BG tanked with no effort.
 
Yeah, I doubt Bug God is actually a legit dragon tbh, him being just that high into the demon tier is just more likely.
 
iirc there was one point where some random MA members said something like "No way even Bug God-sama has been defeated."
Didn't single out any other demon level monster.
 
Also never mind about the above demon stuff.

十八歳以上の人しか入りません。
Juuhassai ijou no hito shika hairimasen.
Only people that are eighteen and over are allowed to enter.

Just learned that if 以上 (いじょう ijō) is followed by の no + noun than it is “and/or over” and not “more than”

The original sentence used is 災害レベル”鬼”以上の怪人 which translates to monsters at disaster lvl demon or higher.

So yeah the context here is in fact saying demon lvl and/or over and not above demon lvl. My mistake.
 
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Base Bug God is definitely very High Demon. Transformed is what I'd consider to either be truly peak Demon to bare minimum of Dragon. He doesn't really have any feats in that form, but based on implications and just the fact that it's a transformation, we can assume he's significantly more powerful in that state.

One things for sure, he'd rip DSK to ******* shreds. Just saying that cause I think there are still people who believe DSK is nearly if not the strongest Demon in the show.
 
Although tbf part of me feels DSK should be the strongest Demon, just purely due to how cool of a villain he was and how much of an impact he had (narratively speaking of course) in comparison to most other Monster's. Hell, while he may not have been some really good and thought out antagonist with great writing, I liked DSK's character a lot. That mix of calm and collected, pretty much sociopathic nature, fused with the primal, animalistic savage deep down made a really cool and menacing character.

And his design was also decent and suited him well.
 
They did my boi dirty from the start by not making DSK a dragon smh, but a piece of shit like bakuzan.
 
I honestly don't know why the anime decided to make him Dragon level. Iirc, it was only confirmed in the anime, which, while mostly the same as the manga in Season 2, has some minor dialogue changes. Bakuzan was always thought to be a Mid or High Demon, which I think is where he should've stayed.
 
RinneItachi said:
I honestly don't know why the anime decided to make him Dragon level. Iirc, it was only confirmed in the anime, which, while mostly the same as the manga in Season 2, has some minor dialogue changes. Bakuzan was always thought to be a Mid or High Demon, which I think is where he should've stayed.
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Bakuzan would have fit much better in high demon, it doesn't even feel right to put him at the peak of demon level. If we say Suiryu and HH Garou are comparable, then he could fit right in a high demon without it seeming egregious, but having him at low dragon... just feels wrong. Evil Eye, Bug God and HEO never got that treatment even when they have so much more to back it up.
 
RinneItachi said:
I liked DSK's character a lot. That mix of calm and collected, pretty much sociopathic nature, fused with the primal, animalistic savage deep down made a really cool and menacing character.
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I don't think it's a stretch to say he was definitely the one monster that was actually terryfying, up until fuhrer ugly I guess. But I feel like Fuhrer doesn't have same amount of hype or build up that makes him anywhere as terrifying as DSK.

Funny how DSK is a far scarier monster than Garou ever was lol
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
I don't think it's a stretch to say he was definitely the one monster that was actually terryfying, up until fuhrer ugly I guess. But I feel like Fuhrer doesn't have same amount of hype or build up that makes him anywhere as terrifying as DSK.

Funny how DSK is a far scarier monster than Garou ever was lol
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I mean DSK is the only monster who's had his whole arc dedicated to him and him alone and Garou isn't even a traditional antagonist, he gives off anti-villain energy from the moment we first see him.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
Kinda wish they did this more tbh
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It was generally a good idea, that arc caused growth for Genos, it showed us the type of guy mumen truly is, it had lot's of setting up to make DSK really solidify that he's a monster rather than a bad guy and made a character people liked alot. They could make another arc like that where it explores some other character as well as adding development to them and just end it with a high tier S class hero dealing with it or something.
 
I was worried that cadres would be just generic strong obstacles for the heroes to face, but I'm glad they're making more like actual legitimate characters rather than cardboard cutouts.
 
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