STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

[LordTracer]

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[CiscoTheSoto]

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LordTracer/Garou

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Excellent key. This should definitely be used.

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

So has Garou's new Low 5-B calc been accepted yet, or are we just waiting for the admins to finish evaluating it?

 

[Quangotjokes]

I made this two months ago, its currently facts

 

[Dienomite22]

So has Garou's new Low 5-B calc been accepted yet, or are we just waiting for the admins to finish evaluating it?

i think they calc itself is accepted but we need a CRT to get the page itself accepted.

 

[Sigilavox]

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LordTracer/Garou

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The classification lists only "Human | Half-Monster", but if Garou's large forms used against Saitama are considered to be him as a full monster (as stated in Powers and Abilities), it should also include Monster. Not sure how the vertical bars should be used there.

 

[GyroNutz]

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I don't agree that Garou's feat of making the Earth bulge should scale to his lifting strength. He moved that mass through striking it, not through lifting it, similar to how we wouldn't scale Saitama's lifting strength to moving Boros' ship from his moon jump.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

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LordTracer/Garou

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Looks good

 

[Spinoirr]

I don't agree that Garou's feat of making the Earth bulge should scale to his lifting strength. He moved that mass through striking it, not through lifting it, similar to how we wouldn't scale Saitama's lifting strength to moving Boros' ship from his moon jump.

You can actually get lifting strength from impacts by newtons

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

ONE's statement should just not be used anymore imo. How many years ago was it? And the manga has changed so much since then

It was like 8 years ago and it was specifically talking about the Webcomic. He said that Garou and Boros were equal in the same Q&A where he said "Full-Power Tatsumaki could defeat Golden Sperm" and that he didn't know who would win between Tatsumaki and Mob.

It is not applicable to the Manga Continuity.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

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Few issues:

• "Fourth Form" is just the Third Form but with two extra arms. It doesn't need to be its own pic.
• It should be "Monster Garou" and not "Post-Sage Centipede" honestly.
• For Garou's durability you should note that he survived Saitama's Consecutive Normal Punches, where each individual punch was stronger than his Extreme Power Attack.

 

[TheRustyOne]

I don't agree that Garou's feat of making the Earth bulge should scale to his lifting strength. He moved that mass through striking it, not through lifting it, similar to how we wouldn't scale Saitama's lifting strength to moving Boros' ship from his moon jump.

But he didn't strike, he pushing himself through the ground. He didn't punch but placed his hands on Saitama and propelled himself down with a constant beams from his hand. Now considering he uses energy blast and not his physical strength, maybe it doesn't scale to his LS regardless but I'm not going to argue for or against that.

However he wasn't rapidly striking, he is clearly just pushing

 

[Dienomite22]

I don't agree that Garou's feat of making the Earth bulge should scale to his lifting strength. He moved that mass through striking it, not through lifting it, similar to how we wouldn't scale Saitama's lifting strength to moving Boros' ship from his moon jump.

He was pushing Saitama. His arms remained fully extended the entire time too so he had to have the strength to withstand the massive amount of counter force pressing back against him.

 

[LordTracer]

Fourth Form" is just the Third Form but with two extra arms. It doesn't need to be its own pic.

Fair.

It should be "Monster Garou" and not "Post-Sage Centipede" honestly.

Post-Darkshine Garou could be considered “Monster Garou” as well, “Post-Sage Centipede” is less confusing.

For Garou's durability you should note that he survived Saitama's Consecutive Normal Punches, where each individual punch was stronger than his Extreme Power Attack.

I’d rather not use Saitama in his justification, but if everyone else agrees, I’ll add it.

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

So with Garou's new calc, does this mean that Saitama will finally be upgraded to Planet level? Garou's feat is close enough to be Planet level, and Saitama is still far stronger than Garou, so logically it'd make sense for him to upscale. Not only that, but there's a ton of statements by both Murata and Saitama himself saying he could destroy the planet.

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

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I think you should add Fire Manipulation.

Garou seems to have fire on his (actual) final form

 

[Andytrenom]

I won't be against it. Though it will suck that he will be baseline

 

[LordTracer]

So with Garou's new calc, does this mean that Saitama will finally be upgraded to Planet level? Garou's feat is close enough to be Planet level, and Saitama is still far stronger than Garou, so logically it'd make sense for him to upscale. Not only that, but there's a ton of statements by both Murata and Saitama himself saying he could destroy the planet.

Garou’s calc is too far to actually upscale, but I do think 5-B Saitama is fine with the statements + being stronger than Garou.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Post-Darkshine Garou could be considered “Monster Garou” as well, “Post-Sage Centipede” is less confusing.

I'd put "Complete Monster" then.

 

[Dienomite22]

Few issues:

• "Fourth Form" is just the Third Form but with two extra arms. It doesn't need to be its own pic.

Actually they are two separate designs. Murata sculpted clay figures of both and they are noticeably different from each other.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I’d rather not use Saitama in his justification, but if everyone else agrees, I’ll add it.

I mean, it's self-evident. Garou's durability scales to his own physical AP when unleashing his Extreme Power Attack, so for Saitama's punches to completely wreck him they must all be stronger than Garou's attack.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Actually they are two separate designs. Murata sculpted clay figures of both and they are noticeably different from each other.

They're not dude. One just has two more arms of course the sculpture is different.

 

[Dienomite22]

They're not dude. One just has two more arms of course the sculpture is different.

No they are. Head shape and all. I’ll post them together to show you.

 

[Quangotjokes]

Third and forth are different. Same way how first and second look similar but ones buffer.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

The "Post-Darkshine" Key could have two pictures btw:

• One for Spiral Garou or "Limiter-Breaking" Garou
• One for Monster Garou

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

So with Garou's new calc, does this mean that Saitama will finally be upgraded to Planet level? Garou's feat is close enough to be Planet level, and Saitama is still far stronger than Garou, so logically it'd make sense for him to upscale. Not only that, but there's a ton of statements by both Murata and Saitama himself saying he could destroy the planet.

Saitama is getting a “likely 5-B” iirc

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

Saitama is getting a “likely 5-B” iirc

Good enough for me.

 

[Dienomite22]

No they are. Head shape and all. I’ll post them together to show you.

Nvm. Don’t feel like going through all of Murata’s crazy amount of retweets to find them so I’ll just post manga panels.
Third form:

Fourth form:

 

[Dienomite22]

4th form ditches glowing lines and has fire on his thighs and back of his neck and is also lighter and more detail.

3rd form still has glowing lines, is black, and has fire all around his neck but only briefly after that mountain attack.

 

[Dienomite22]

Post-Darkshine Garou could be considered “Monster Garou” as well, “Post-Sage Centipede” is less confusing.

I think Post-Sagw Centipede works better until we get confirmation on when Garou’s monster state actually began

 

[Quantu]

So is Saitama gonna be baseline? If so hes gonna be such a fodder 5-B character

 

[LordTracer]

So is Saitama gonna be baseline? If so hes gonna be such a fodder 5-B character

Yeah, he’ll be baseline.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I think Post-Sagw Centipede works better until we get confirmation on when Garou’s monster state actually began

It began when he said "Because I'm a monster... That's right" and went beast mode.

 

[Dienomite22]

It began when he said "Because I'm a monster... That's right" and went beast mode.

I agree with that but not everyone did iirc. If everyone agrees with that, post-darkshine Garou’s monster forms (Everything from Bomb fight until now) would be all under the “Monster key”.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I agree with that but not everyone did iirc. If everyone agrees with that, post-darkshine Garou’s monster forms (Everything from Bomb fight until now) would be all under the “Monster key”.

Garou goes through another notable evolution once he perfects his fist so it justifies two keys.

 

[Dienomite22]

Garou goes through another notable evolution once he perfects his fist so it justifies two keys.

But he would still technically be a Monster in both. I guess putting the pictures of all forms post-Darkshine under the Monster tab would work.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

So is Saitama gonna be baseline? If so hes gonna be such a fodder 5-B character

Literally one of the weakest 5-Bs, but I guess that's not far from basically every Saitama

 

[Dienomite22]

I thought we would be past expecting Saitama to be anything other than a free win in verses match ups.

 

[LordTracer]

Y’all should’ve already known that 5-B Saitama would be absolute garbage in versus matches.

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

Y’all should’ve already known that 5-B Saitama would be absolute garbage in versus matches.

Exactly. What does Saitama have going for him against an equally strong opponent? Shockwaves, acrobatics, and his willpower? That's all I can think of. Anyone with more skill than him would utterly screw Saitama.