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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

Also ByAsura, did you say something about the moon jump being sus? What was the problem with it?
 
It's kind of inconsistent and weird. Also, it doesn't seem like an author would think tilting a city-sized space ship is Multi-Continent level. At the very least, though, Boros' attacks far surpass the firepower outputted by his own ship, his subordinates and armoured form, Garou's non monster forms, Orochi, etc.
 
ByAsura said:
They don't overlap (that's also circular reasoning), and are completely founded on assumptions.
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I am not making circular reasoning.

For example, "because the CSRC is strong, Boros can withstand the wind pressure of the serious punch, so csrc is strong." i don't do that
And what about assume? He actually withstood the attack.

I'm not make claims CSRC is strong in the first. csrc is strong, only that it is strong by feat.

And if a feat and an assumption collide, of course, isn't it correct to choose the assumption that corresponds to the feat?
 
ByAsura said:
At the very least, though, Boros' attacks far surpass the firepower outputted by his own ship, his subordinates and armoured form, Garou's non monster forms, Orochi
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Why Orochi and his ship tho?

At the very least tho if we wanna lowball, Boros should be High 7-A to 6-C.
 
He wasn't obliterated by the attack, so you're assuming he's Multi-Continent level. There's the assumption. He could just as easily be 6-A.

As for the circular reasoning, never mind on that part. I misinterpreted your statement about the CSRC. Also, I guess my statement that he can't withstand normal punches was founded on an assumption.
Emirp sumitpo said:
Why Orochi tho?

At the very least tho if we wanna lowball, Boros should be High 7-A to 6-C.
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I meant his First Form, but that's kind of irrelevant given scaling.
 
You missed the edit.

"I meant his First Form, but that's kind of irrelevant given scaling."

We can also reasonably scale him above any Dragon level in the series, but I think their highest feats top out at Mountain level.
 
ByAsura said:
He wasn't obliterated by the attack, so you're assuming he's Multi-Continent level. There's the assumption. He could just as easily be 6-A.

As for the circular reasoning, never mind on that part. I misinterpreted your statement about the CSRC. Also, I guess my statement that he can't withstand normal punches was founded on an assumption.

I meant his First Form, but that's kind of irrelevant given scaling.
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Um, is that an assumption? If character can withstand an attack, isn't it right to scale into that attack?
Maybe it has something to do with the hit area? Because wind pressure and 6-A are 500 times different If that is wiki standard, I apologize.
 
The assumption is that Boros scales enough to be High 6-A. He didn't withstand it, he barely survived, and that was only because he's an alien. I don't see why he wouldn't be Continent level.

Surface area is a factor, but I do think the blow on Boros wouldn't fall far behind High 6-A.
 
ByAsura said:
The assumption is that Boros scales enough to be High 6-A. He didn't withstand it, he barely survived, and that was only because he's an alien. I don't see why he wouldn't be Continent level.

Surface area is a factor, but I do think the blow on Boros wouldn't fall far behind High 6-A.
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Oh, I understand. Durability isn't just about surviving an attack, it's a criterion for being able to fight and perform normal activities after being hit by that attack.
That's what you're trying to say. I think the topic of the conversation was diffrnece each other.
But I thinks he can still get higher values by scaling from just a few hundred teratons. IIRC In the case of a one-shot attack, isn't it 7.5 times the target's durability?
 
ByAsura said:
They also cause explosions/shockwaves, though, not just melting damage. It seems very wanked to assume he melts the entire surface, especially since it could just melt one area and flatten the rest (like massive explosions do).

Edit: Reading the manga again, it seems like you guys are mostly off the anime's visuals and applying it to the manga. Boros' energy blasts rarely melt stuff.

Edit 2: One of the other justifications is that it would have scorched the Earth according to a databook statement. If it's scorched, that actually means blackened/burned, not melted.
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Vaporization would probably be more likely than melting when it comes to actually destroying the crust with "scorching", but since the crust is being destroyed via a heat based method (you can't actually scorch stone in the literal sense of the word, let alone destroy it in such a manner), I think melting's a good lowball.
 
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Maharaj said:
Why is Orochi "possibly" relativistic when he blatantly dodges saitamas normal punches
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I think it´s because Orochi scales above Geryuganshoop who is also possibly relativistic and we don´t scale people to Saitama´s power since casual Saitama´s power is inconsistent.
 
JirensMom said:
I think it´s because Orochi scales above Geryuganshoop who is also possibly relativistic and we don´t scale people to Saitama´s power since casual Saitama´s power is inconsistent.
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He specifically says that he won't hold back so he should be using atleast the level of effort he used against boros if not more given that he might have held back against him narratively also how is his power inconsistent
 
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Moreover, it is very strange that the csrc is only 183 petatons. The csrc is actually not completely lost even with the original power(not wind pressure) of the serious punch. But I'm not going to argue that this increases the power of csrc though for now.
 
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Six_fold_god said:
Moreover, it is very strange that the csrc is only 183 petatons. The csrc is actually not completely lost even with the original power(not wind pressure) of the serious punch. But I'm not going to argue that this increases the power of csrc though for now.
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CSRC is 1586 petatons.

If some of CSRC's energy survived the Serious Punch, that was because Saitama A) underestimated how much energy he needed to cancel CSRC by a little or B) said energy was outside the Serious Punch's area of effect. Since Saitama is normally pretty good at proportioning the power of his punches for his enemies, I think it's B), that also makes sense the way the serious punch and CSRC were fanning out from their respective origin points
 
So about the whole BOS Genos Mountain feat the current calc assumes standard mountain height and Violent Frag. I found some older calcs that assumed melting and they got low 7-B and vap just makes it 7-B. With that I think there're two ways to update the calc: 1. Update the height of the mountain 2. Use a different method for calcing the destruction. For the height you could try scaling it based of this or this. I also saw a calc were someone assumed the mountains were based off of real ones in the Saitama prefecture since the whole OPM continent is based off of that. For the method of destruction this gives a good shot of how the building and mountain was destroyed prior to this shot. That or just reference Genos' other feats for what values to use.
 
Oh shit, if this gets higher than the EC 7-B, this really boutta **** up the scaling lmao
 
If it gets higher it will probably be considered an outlier again lmao
I'm hoping it gets like 5-10 megatons at best.
 
I'm personally it ain't getting TOO high. As it'll likely make the scaling chain a bit more complicated for matches and stuff. It'd be more convenient if it got Low 7-B or something like that I hope
 
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