STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

[Kachon123]

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[Recon1511]

Commented on it.

I don't really see how the number of floors is excessive when this is the hole that Brave Giant made

 

[Dual_Binoculars]

anybody else think boros should be way stronger than orochi?
everything points to boros being stronger
orochi is treated as a complete joke by saitama and their fight only lasts a few pages
saitama recognized boros as the strongest he'd ever fought, while he immediately forgot about orochi and basically doesn't even know he exists
boros also surprised saitama with his meteoric burst speed, and he called him strong and even thought in his own mind that it was "almost a real fight" (whatever that means)
vs orochi who gave an entire monolouge about his goals that saitama didn't even care about whatsoever. He even had something to say about boros' monologue about being the strongest in the universe
saitama literally had no idea that he was the monster king while fighting him, vs him actively hyping up boros' power during their fight
I think it's a little bs that orochi is hundreds of times stronger here, even if there aren't more direct feats to back it up, everybody knows it's true.

Boros had a "Possibly" rating for this reason, but it was replaced by a full rating then removed altogether. I think there is enough evidence for it to go back to a "Possibly" imo.

 

[LordTracer]

Boros had a "Possibly" rating for this reason, but it was replaced by a full rating then removed altogether. I think there is enough evidence for it to go back to a "Possibly" imo.

 

[Dual_Binoculars]

ok

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Boros had a "Possibly" rating for this reason, but it was replaced by a full rating then removed altogether. I think there is enough evidence for it to go back to a "Possibly" imo.

Nah, "possibly" ratings are disgusting. Make it a full one

 

[LordTracer]

I’m like 99.9% sure the scaling got removed because, in a chapter after the Boros fight, Saitama said that he’s never felt anything in any fight, so the “this is almost a real fight” doesn’t mean a whole lot.

And also cause, y’know, “he called him strong tho“ is garbage reasoning

 

[Dual_Binoculars]

Nah, "possibly" ratings are disgusting. Make it a full one

That will never happen because everyone seems to downplay him. Maybe if you added the Tatsumaki audio book stuff in with the Orochi stuff that would be enough idk. It seems like Boros will stay where he's at unless there's we get some new databook, a statement or the moon calc gets higher results.

 

[Dual_Binoculars]

I’m like 99.9% sure the scaling got removed because, in a chapter after the Boros fight, Saitama said that he’s never felt anything in any fight, so the “this is almost a real fight” doesn’t mean a whole lot.

And also cause, y’know, “he called him strong tho“ is garbage reasoning

But he called him strong like three times.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

I’m like 99.9% sure the scaling got removed because, in a chapter after the Boros fight, Saitama said that he’s never felt anything in any fight, so the “this is almost a real fight” doesn’t mean a whole lot.

I mean it's kinda clear that in this case it would translate to "almost" felt something
but it's not just about him calling him almost a real fight (in his own mind even, not even just to hype him up out of respect or something, but ignoring that fact) it's because he acknowledges him as strong multiple times both to boros and to genos
and also his speed kinda surprised him, while he didn't even give the same level of reaction to flashy for, so there's that

And also cause, y’know, “he called him strong tho“ is garbage reasoning

I mean, it kinda does mean something when comparing to orochi, who he treats like fodder and doesn't even acknowledge the existence of for the most part
it almost kinda goes without saying that saitama sees boros as stronger than orochi tbh, even if it is a little troublesome to prove
I would have strongly preferred a possibly rating of boros scaling above orochi's 5.6 gigatons or whatever

as for speed, there's literally no way boros isn't ftl
meteoric burst made saitama do the surprised expression and speech bubble effect
the only thing that ever did that since then was cosmic garou coming at him with the nuclear fission attacks
he only considered monster garou coming at him from behind "kinda fast" when he hit him the first time, but wasn't visibly surprised by it in the same way

but hey, at least I can use my headcanon 5-B ftl boros stats when I'm off-site

 

[ZillertheBucko]

narrative arguments and headcanon >>>>>> strictly factual scaling tbh tbh

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

the moon calc gets higher results

At this point, this is the best option for him

as for speed, there's literally no way boros isn't ftl
meteoric burst made saitama do the surprised expression and speech bubble effect
the only thing that ever did that since then was cosmic garou coming at him with the nuclear fission attacks
he only considered monster garou coming at him from behind "kinda fast" when he hit him the first time, but wasn't visibly surprised by it in the same way

There's always the 4.35c calc that you could argue Boros scales to, which I honestly think he should, but I'm not gonna bother making the CRT

 

[Recon1511]

I don't think Boros is FTL since Murata pointed out that a video showcasing an object moving at Relativistic speeds was pretty similar to what Boros did when kicking Saitama to the moon or something

 

[ZillertheBucko]

I mean ftl is still "pretty similar" to relativistic you could say

 

[Recon1511]

I mean ftl is still "pretty similar" to relativistic you could say

Not really no, Relativistic isn't even SoL.

 

[Recon1511]

Here

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Here

He retweeted a gif showing light bouncing between moon and back, and it shows that it takes light roughly 1.25 seconds to travel between them.

He made a follow up tweet saying he thinks it's about the speed at which Saitama was sent flying when Boros kicked him.

an object moving at Relativistic speeds

He's comparing light travelling to the Moon to Saitama being sent flying to the Moon

 

[ZillertheBucko]

isn't that just him saying boros is roughly sol?

 

[Recon1511]

He's comparing light travelling to the Moon to Saitama being sent flying to the Moon

Pretty sure that tweet is the reason MB Boros is accepted as 90% SoL

 

[Worthless]

That will never happen because everyone seems to downplay him. Maybe if you added the Tatsumaki audio book stuff in with the Orochi stuff that would be enough idk. It seems like Boros will stay where he's at unless there's we get some new databook, a statement or the moon calc gets higher results.

4-A Boros for destroying a large section of God's Sealing [Moon]

 

[Recon1511]

He's comparing light travelling to the Moon to Saitama being sent flying to the Moon

You could make a CRT for "possibly SoL" MB Boros since Murata statements aren't fully WoG but still good enough

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Pretty sure that tweet is the reason MB Boros is accepted as 90% SoL

I doubt it, since it would just be 100% sol

 

[Recon1511]

4-A Boros for destroying a large section of God's Sealing [Moon]

There are people who unironically believe Boros woke up God or that he was actually hiding behind the moon the whole time

 

[ZillertheBucko]

There are people who unironically believe Boros woke up God or that he was actually hiding behind the moon the whole time

I mean technically boros did send saitama to the moon, but the moon jump is most likely what woke up god
he probably got pissed and was like "you ruined my ******* home asshole" and that's what makes saitama the fist that turned against god, he's just pissed cause his house got cracked
I mean there's obviously no way the moon jump isn't what did it, since that's what's shown in every single scene god is in

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

You could make a CRT for "possibly SoL" MB Boros since Murata statements aren't fully WoG but still good enough

There's also this other calc that @Cryo123 made. But it hasn't been re-evaluated again for months

A relativistic re-do of Boros kicking Saitama

vsbattles.fandom.com

Honestly, I just want him to scale to Saitama's 4.35c feat

 

[Recon1511]

I mean technically boros did send saitama to the moon, but the moon jump is most likely what woke up god
he probably got pissed and was like "you ruined my ******* home asshole" and that's what makes saitama the fist that turned against god, he's just pissed cause his house got cracked
I mean there's obviously no way the moon jump isn't what did it, since that's what's shown in every single scene god is in

Except Vaccine Man making obvious that God created him/granted him powers and the heavy implications in the recent chapters that what actually attracted God to Earth was Saitama breaking his limiter.

The moon being used as an "eye" thanks to the crater is just a really clever use of the visual.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

hmmmm maybe
I still would like to think that god was pissed off at boros and saitama for ******* up the moon though, it's just a funny concept to me

 

[Recon1511]

There's also this other calc that @Cryo123 made. But it hasn't been re-evaluated again for months

A relativistic re-do of Boros kicking Saitama

vsbattles.fandom.com

Honestly, I just want him to scale to Saitama's 4.35c feat

Ask CGM for evaluations, I think one can make the argument to just straight up scale him to SoL with it.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Ask CGM for evaluations, I think one can make the argument to just straight up scale him to SoL with it.

FTL Boros is more based

I can settle for SoL Boros

 

[ZillertheBucko]

5-B and FTL is the best combination of speed and AP tiers possible

 

[Kachon123]

 

[Recon1511]

So Blue Fire has "combat ability" close to S Class, that must be a pretty good flamethrower.

More supporting proof that the disciples are S Class worthy as well.

 

[ReusedOil]

You could make a CRT for "possibly SoL" MB Boros since Murata statements aren't fully WoG but still good enough

Why not light speed again?

 

[Recon1511]

Why not light speed again?

Because Murata statements aren't really WoG but we use them because ONE is radio silent on social media.

Like, did you know that ONE's name was Tomohiro before I told you?

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

There's also this other calc that @Cryo123 made. But it hasn't been re-evaluated again for months

A relativistic re-do of Boros kicking Saitama

vsbattles.fandom.com

@KLOL506 rejected it

Like, did you know that ONE's name was Tomohiro before I told you?

Oh, really?

 

[ReusedOil]

Because Murata statements aren't really WoG but we use them because ONE is radio silent on social media.

But if we are taking his word for it why not just go straight to LS? thats what he said right?

Like, did you know that ONE's name was Tomohiro before I told you?

Das pretty Neato

 

[Tural2004]

Like, did you know that ONE's name was Tomohiro before I told you?

Did you know that Tomohiro isn't ONE's name but his less known alias? We don't even know what ONE's real name is

 

[Recon1511]

But if we are taking his word for it why not just go straight to LS? thats what he said right?

Das pretty Neato

Make a CRT if you want

@KLOL506 rejected it

Oh, really?

Too bad, but in that case his Rel+ speed on MB Boros should be removed

 

[Recon1511]

Did you know that Tomohiro isn't ONE's name but his less known alias? We don't even know what ONE's real name is

He is a mistery. I guess he really doesn't like media attention, too bad. I think his interviews and personality are really interesting..

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Too bad, but in that case his Rel+ speed on MB Boros should be removed

There's already a CRT about this, but there is still contention. Also, it won't be removed, just changed to a "possibly" rating since Geryuganshoop and the justification edited.