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but now i do agree with you, tatsumaki is indeed not god level.
But there’s possibility.
We must remember that god’s main plan by possessing psykos was to get tatsumaki as avatar oof
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but now i do agree with you, tatsumaki is indeed not god level.
But there’s possibility.
We must remember that god’s main plan by possessing psykos was to get tatsumaki as avatar oof
His attack potency shouldn’t be unknown, we know he upscales Bomb without WSRSF with his AB form so he should scale to that.guess we'll make bang striking strength unknown, it's simply a skill issue (he is using martial arts)
I don’t care enough to make a CRT. I’m not gonna keep explaining how a 4,000+ difference in strength would vaporize genos (literally) and his physical body was literally intact after a punch that supposedly surpassed Saitama.I’m not going to keep explaining to you that Genos was so damaged that he needed a new body afterwards. Make a CRT if you’re so confident that Post-G4 Genos and everyone that scales to him should scale from Gouketsu.
BROOOOOO LOVED ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
no?if you use calc stacking then boros gets 5-C physicals instead of just upscaling ridiculously high above the moon jump, so it's a little trolling
Almost makes me want this to happen in her fight vs Saitama. (If it wasn't for the consequence of making the series even more God spamming)
Please, let God rest for like... half a year chapters.Almost makes me want this to happen in her fight vs Saitama. (If it wasn't for the consequence of making the series even more God spamming)
Please, let God rest for like... half a year chapters.
no one cares about ninja village,i don't care for sonic,i don't care for the random of ninja villageNah, we will be skipping Ninja Village arc to bring you God's Bizarre Adventures
.no one cares about ninja village,i don't care for sonic,i don't care for the random of ninja village
that is the truth
Me with Borutono one cares about ninja village,i don't care for sonic,i don't care for the random of ninja village
except that boruto is like worstMe with Boruto
You're forgetting all the accumulated damage from before then. And even then, there's no reason to not scale MA Genos to that value. He's considered a great loss, but no one ever treats him like he's strong enough to one shot all the other cadres. If he could, he would be their ultimate weapon, and Genos would be dead, not injured.I’m not going to keep explaining to you that Genos was so damaged that he needed a new body afterwards. Make a CRT if you’re so confident that Post-G4 Genos and everyone that scales to him should scale from Gouketsu.
bomb's bones were never even broken lmao, this whole time you've been saying this but it never happenedAnd this is just a different interpretation, no concrete evidence of the former or my argument. It’s a case by case situation and given the events taken place, it would and should increase their defenses.
Bomb>Bang
Garou can destroy Bomb’s bones
Garou(AB)=Bang(AB). His durability in fact increases.
If you can’t provide valid evidence proving he doesn’t get a durability boost then the burden is on you to prove their isn’t a difference in durability.
Your argument's already dead but for the record, if bomb is stronger than bang it would be by a miniscule amount, as fubuki says that he rivals bang, and they are shown being comparable when they do the combo attack against centipede, so it's a very irrelevant thing.No, Murata stated that Bomb is stronger Bang. Given this knowledge, it’s impossible for AB not to increase durability.
I fail to see what Garou being capable of one shotting Bang proves, all this suggests is that Garou grow massively in battles/has stronger techniques in his arsenal. What is the relevancy is this statement?
bomb's bones were never broken, and if they were it was because of taking a direct hit which caused to blatantly durability negating shockwaves to do it.You wouldn’t be capable of perceiving a 1.5x difference in strength in real life, this is fiction not real life. Stop making the petty comparisons. Bomb being surprised that someone who just pulverized his bones is fighting evenly with someone who is stated to be weaker than him is a large difference in power. It’s not head canon, it’s using evidence presented in the story itself.
Bang: "For one last time, I'll go all out!"Him using a superpowered state isn’t contradicted by him clearly holding back. He can go all out (using maximum potential) and suppress himself to a degree. It’s shown in series and would be contradictory if not the case.
To be completely honest, if there’s not going to be a CRT made about this, I don’t care.You're forgetting all the accumulated damage from before then. And even then, there's no reason to not scale MA Genos to that value. He's considered a great loss, but no one ever treats him like he's strong enough to one shot all the other cadres. If he could, he would be their ultimate weapon, and Genos would be dead, not injured.
Edit: Especially seeing as Orochi was concerned at the idea of someone beating Rover in a fight, which he wouldn't be if Goketsu was so much stronger, yet and had his block knocked off.
Hey, I have a question: has anyone tried to calc this? Previous to that feat, AS was stationary, and it seems he didn't begin to move until the sword was at this distance of him (Anime also somewhat confirms it I guess?). That guy's technique surpassed the speed of sound even before turning a monster, but ended speedblitzed and cut in several bits before he could attack him even once
You can try but I doubt you would get a higher result than his current Sub-Rel+ attack speed thoughHey, I have a question: has anyone tried to calc this? Previous to that feat, AS was stationary, and it seems he didn't begin to move until the sword was at this distance of him (Anime also somewhat confirms it I guess?). That guy's technique surpassed the speed of sound even before turning a monster, but ended speedblitzed and cut in several bits before he could attack him even once
The feat itself was ruled unusable because the panel's angle and the size of the cloud split don't matchWouldn’t a shockwave of that size be like Island level tho? Can you send me the calc
Found it.
It was accepted at 7-A, but scrapped because at the time, we realized that we had to divide the result by the amount of punches it took (5), and it was lower than what we rated characters then. If we do that now, it ends up being 143.16 megatons, so still 7-A.
That wasn't all the reasons. Like not even close.That’s weird, why are we assuming it took 5 punches? Even if it did, the first shockwave would have traversed this distance anyways so be would scale to the full value regardless.
You're the one that engaged in the conversation by saying "we're not doing that". I'm willing to make a CRT about it, but usually discussing it for a decent amount of time first irons out any potential kinks in the logic and reasoning.To be completely honest, if there’s not going to be a CRT made about this, I don’t care.
Makes sense.That wasn't all the reasons. Like not even close.
But they were, I find it astonishing how you would go and make a baseless statement without even bothering to check the validity of your claim before making the statement.bomb's bones were never even broken lmao, this whole time you've been saying this but it never happened
and thus your argument is gone.
Point still stands, Garou being strong enough to absolute whop Bomb and destroy his leg would put him a vast amount above base Bang. Regardless of how you interpret this difference to be in terms of quantity, it would completely nullify and contradict your baseless belief of AB being a minuscule boost in terms of power. Neither does it being incorrect justify your ideas of AB not boosting durability, a claim neither stated or shown inYour argument's already dead but for the record, if bomb is stronger than bang it would be by a miniscule amount, as fubuki says that he rivals bang, and they are shown being comparable when they do the combo attack against centipede, so it's a very irrelevant thing.
Why are you claiming he has durability negation? Internal attacks=/=durability negation. Durability negation is something that ignores durability all together and attacks with a force that can’t be resisted by normal physical means, while internal attacks are abilities that focuses on attacking the internal body. Garou does the former. Even so, this wouldn’t take away from Bang’s durability, this attack was strong enough to overcome his durability and one shot him and I fail to see what relevance this has in our discussion. You’re claiming Garou didn’t grow in this fight at all, which is entirely baseless. Garou could grow from Island level to MC in .00013s. His growth factor cannot be defined in conventional means and it’s unfair to assert that he didn’t grow much in his fight against Bang. His island level feat was accomplished by a Garou who was combining all his past techniques into one, which would be vastly above the attack which one shotted Bang with a mere graze.Garou was gonna one shot bang because the dura negating shockwaves would break every bone in his body
this is not hard to understand. Garou and bang were close enough physical, garou just had more effective techniques and didn't grow notably stronger or faster, to the point where even at the end of the fight bomb was still able to pinpoint exact moments where bang could use exploding heart release fist
And there’s 0 proof of vice versa, there’s more evidence supporting the idea than there is a durability boost vs your none existent evidence depicting it not boosting durability. Until you provide something contradicting the belief then you cannot assert that it “slightly” boost strength.so yeah, there's 0 evidence that awakening breath increases durability
My argument relies on no headcanon and is completely supported by the story. You can sit and commit an ad hominem all you want but the fact remains. Garou could destroy Bombs legs.bomb's bones were never broken, and if they were it was because of taking a direct hit which caused to blatantly durability negating shockwaves to do it.
your argument is rooted in headcanon my friend, and relies on headcanon to justify it further
Going all out in the sense that he’s using a form that boosts him to his limits, unless you believe he cannot hold back while using this state. If that’s the case people like FU should be downscaling from surviving a barrage from him, while being heavily damaged, itself not to the point of him being destroyed completely and he would have to be relative in strength for him to even endure the barrage.Bang: "For one last time, I'll go all out!"
gee, I sure wonder how him going all out is contradicted by him holding back and suppressing himself.
Neutral, but that doesn't look humanly impossible to me (though I'd say I'm more flexible than average, so idk if that applies to an old man with back issues).His leg is bending in ways that aren’t humanly possible, the mere fact that he has been crawling around further reinforces this idea. I thought this was a commonly known fact, I guess not.
It looks broken to me and given the way Bomb is moving around (he’s crawling) and even when watching FU walking towards Bang to kill him he could do nothing but crawl towards him using only his arms, even upon his brother’s death. One could argue he’s just exhausted from his fight, though this is ignoring the scan presented above, but throughout Bang’s fight Bomb shows no signs of fatigue and seemed pretty fine whole viewing the fight.Neutral, but that doesn't look humanly impossible to me (though I'd say I'm more flexible than average, so idk if that applies to an old man with back issues).
It’s still whatever, Garou was literally using dura neg shockwaves which bang would have been broken by too, so it literally doesn’t matter. Bomb was even the one from which he learned it anyways, so nothing has changed from my original debunkBut they were, I find it astonishing how you would go and make a baseless statement without even bothering to check the validity of your claim before making the statement.
I find it sad how you believe baseless assumptions are a form of refutations.
His leg is bending in ways that aren’t humanly possible, the mere fact that he has been crawling around further reinforces this idea. I thought this was a commonly known fact, I guess not.
well bang was still comparable to garou while bomb said that his technique would shatter all of bang's bones, so at the very least we could probably say that the effects of the shockwave outmatch his own APOk, but I'm not addressing that point. I'm just disagreeing with your notion that it wouldn't scale to bone breaking.
Anyway, Garou does separate bones and flesh from organ bypassing here.
he still says he's going all out right before that clash so, it's still scaling