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Why is gouketsu going at full power again?Honestly if im being serious Genos isn’t that damaged after Gouketsu’s punched, he isn’t any worse than before the punch.
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Why is gouketsu going at full power again?Honestly if im being serious Genos isn’t that damaged after Gouketsu’s punched, he isn’t any worse than before the punch.
I never assumed he was at full power, Genos after basically tanking his punch, used his power scanners to analyze and conclude that Gouketsu’s punch was superior to Saitama and Tatsumaki.Why is gouketsu going at full power again?
Giving his biological circumstances a hard enough punch can knock his systems out of whack, like dropping an android can cause internal issues such as a messed up screen but the phone itself takes no physical damage.Half of his face is missing and he can barely move
It's just crackedHalf of his face is missing
which goes right back round to the idea that getting punched in the face would hamper your ability to think things clearlyI never assumed he was at full power, Genos after basically tanking his punch, used his power scanners to analyze and conclude that Gouketsu’s punch was superior to Saitama and Tatsumaki.
ZombieMan:which goes right back round to the idea that getting punched in the face would hamper your ability to think things clearly
He literally said that he needed Kuseno to repair him, and the next time we see him, he’s in his Post-Superfight body.Giving his biological circumstances a hard enough punch can knock his systems out of whack, like dropping an android can cause internal issues such as a messed up screen but the phone itself takes no physical damage.
He was missing an eyeball and the skin on his face but his physical body is almost untouched after the attack.
Yeah, Bomb should probably at least dowscale from Surface Garou. We see Awakening Breath Bang (6-C) clash with Base Surface Garou.weakened bomb held his own against Garou a few seconds earlier
It’s not ******, Tatsumaki apparently getting over 703,968,253.96x weaker from a little blood lose is ******.Bang’s base being thousands of times weaker than awakening breath is so insanely ******
Garou masters awakening breath against bang after their fight starts and goes from being evenly clashing to being slightly stronger than bang, and we just treat it like this godlike multiplier
it hasn’t even been shown to affect durability either, since it’s quite literally just a breathing technique that is said to increase your power, not a transformation that increases your durability too
On top of that, after a weakened bomb held his own against Garou a few seconds earlier, bang literally went full power awakening breath against bomb knowing it wouldn’t kill garou, as he was intentionally leaving Garou alive. Basically he was confident that someone a weakened bomb could fight wouldn’t die if he went full power awakening breath for a moment.
Base bang should definitely not be below at least high 7-A+
What does thinking properly have to do with reading the energy levels being emitted off of something?which goes right back round to the idea that getting punched in the face would hamper your ability to think things clearly
He was ****** up by the cockroach don’t forget, and I’m not arguing that he wasn’t damaged by Gouketsu im arguing that the damaged wasn’t so much that he can’t downscale from the attack.He literally said that he needed Kuseno to repair him, and the next time we see him, he’s in his Post-Superfight body.
Not a valid reason to why we shouldn’t, possibly large island level genos. WWe’re not scaling Genos to Gouketsu. Stop.
if it was a normal human under those circumstances, it wouldve died ALOT earlier in the fight, wdym? likeIt’s not ******, Tatsumaki apparently getting over 703,968,253.96x weaker from a little blood lose is ******.
Or alternatively, by limits it means pushing it as far as it can go without breakingAwakening breath is stated to push the body to it’s limits, increasing it’s overall strength. Meaning their muscles bones etc all become stronger which would inherently increase their defenses.
Bomb is stated to rival Bang, not be stronger. bang literally said that if Garou got a direct hit on him it would be over, which we see is true at the end of the fight. Garou literally has multiple durability negating martial arts anyways.Bomb is stated stronger than Bang, Garou was strong enough to break Bomb’s legs, Awakening Breath Garou could only do surface damage to Bang. That’s an overwhelming large difference in power going by this alone, Garou never showed the ability to fight evenly with AB Bang before using AB himself. Even Bomb was shocked by Garou fighting evenly with AB Bang despite him just clashing with Garou. That shows the large difference in AB and base.
He literally says he’s going all out, get your headcanon away from me.Bang using Ab against Garou doesn’t mean he’s confident in it being incapable of killing Garou, all it proves is he needed a higher level of power at the moment and could hold back while in the state.
It’s like saying Goku going ssjb against krillin means he was confident in krillin not dying against, when in reality he can simply suppress his strength while in that state.
There are 5+ characters/keys vastly stronger than her, the phrase you’re looking for is top tier not god tierdont try to hype your character trying to compare him to a godtier
nah, she is still a god tier until blast’s team is relevant, and until this is not happening, she can even get individually stronger than most of them oofThere are 5+ characters/keys vastly stronger than her, the phrase you’re looking for is top tier not god tier
I can understand Tatsumaki being weakened after this attack, but Tatsumaki is also shown and stated to only have gotten weaker after going full power. Even after coughing gallons of blood and blood vessels popping in her eyes and scalp, she was literally unfazed panels later. Unless it’s directly stated she was weakened from an attack or using her powers, we shouldn’t assume she was.if it was a normal human under those circumstances, it wouldve died ALOT earlier in the fight, wdym? like
she got crushed, pierced by eletrical spears, smashed into a ******* rock, and more
and theres like 5 scams of tatsumaki spitting blood oof
And I’m telling you that we’re not scaling him to an attack that left him so badly damaged that he could barely move and then needed to have his body replaced.He was ****** up by the cockroach don’t forget, and I’m not arguing that he wasn’t damaged by Gouketsu im arguing that the damaged wasn’t so much that he can’t downscale from the attack.
the moment when she said that she overused her power (she didnt even understand it), theres a HUGE FOCUS on the moon in the same scam. We can pretty much consider this GOD's influence, he personally weakened her. And i feel like that we are going to get another mention about this in a few chapters.I can understand Tatsumaki being weakened after this attack, but Tatsumaki is also shown and stated to only have gotten weaker after going full power. Even after coughing gallons of blood and blood vessels popping in her eyes and scalp, she was literally unfazed panels later. Unless it’s directly stated she was weakened from an attack or using her powers, we shouldn’t assume she was.
Like bro, we’re assuming she was leas than 0.0000001% of her power, that’s ******* insane.
Csrc:nah, she is still a god tier until blast’s team is relevant, and until this is not happening, she can even get individually stronger than most of them oof
How long till we scale his core to 4-A tho that’s the real shitAnd I’m telling you that we’re not scaling him to an attack that left him so badly damaged that he could barely move and then needed to have his body replaced.
CSRC is not even strong enough to defeat tatsumakiCsrc:
5-C garou:
Blast:
Cosmic Garou
Cosmic Garou again:
God:
The main character:
She is not a god tier
Csrc can’t one shot her but it does scale to a higher value, so…CSRC is not even strong enough to defeat tatsumaki
Garou is just ONE character.
what the **** are you TALKING about?
i mean… what?Csrc can’t one shot her but it does scale to a higher value, so…
and I said characters/keys anyways
We can also King’s luck hax scales higher
the discussion is not about this, this guy is trying to use keys as different characters to lower tatsumaki rank in the verse oofFirst Boros vs Tatsumaki discussion of the year!
And this is just a different interpretation, no concrete evidence of the former or my argument. It’s a case by case situation and given the events taken place, it would and should increase their defenses.Or alternatively, by limits it means pushing it as far as it can go without breaking
in real life you could technically throw a punch like 5 times harder than your previous maximum and it wouldn’t break your bones, but that doesn’t mean your bones got stronger, it just means that you’re throwing attacks as hard as your limit is, that is as hard as you can hit without breaking your bones from the impact
No, Murata stated that Bomb is stronger Bang. Given this knowledge, it’s impossible for AB not to increase durability.Bomb is stated to rival Bang, not be stronger. bang literally said that if Garou got a direct hit on him it would be over, which we see is true at the end of the fight. Garou literally has multiple durability negating martial arts anyways.
You wouldn’t be capable of perceiving a 1.5x difference in strength in real life, this is fiction not real life. Stop making the petty comparisons. Bomb being surprised that someone who just pulverized his bones is fighting evenly with someone who is stated to be weaker than him is a large difference in power. It’s not head canon, it’s using evidence presented in the story itself.You could be shocked by someone being 1.5 times as strong as you irl. Being shocked is not a multiplier bro, the “large difference” is headcanon. Literally at the very beginning of the fight Garou and bang clash directly, and only a few moments after that does Garou master awakening breath.
Him using a superpowered state isn’t contradicted by him clearly holding back. He can go all out (using maximum potential) and suppress himself to a degree. It’s shown in series and would be contradictory if not the case.He literally says he’s going all out, get your headcanon away from me.
tatsumaki fought a GOD’s influenced being, that we don’t even know the full lenght of the powers, and this while holding back and protecting others.The only 3 100% god tiers of the verse are
1.God
2.Saitama
3.Cosmic Garou
And if you squint possibly Blast + Blastvengers, as they lack feats capable of directly matching the top 3 but are hinted to be around that level
All other characters have absolutely nothing that puts them directly on that level or implies them to be that strong without headcanon or wank.
You can’t even present evidence that his physical body was badly damaged from the attack. He survived the attack on a physical level, his internal body being damaged from this attack doesn’t represent the idea that he doesn’t scale.And I’m telling you that we’re not scaling him to an attack that left him so badly damaged that he could barely move and then needed to have his body replaced.
see the last panel of the fight, were he punches garou in the face and cracks itWhy the hell is Bang even scaling to Garou in the first place. He only damaged Garou via WSRSF which uses Garou’s own energy against him.
do you really want to compare the case of homeless emperor and psykos combined to orochi?Homeless emperor is also a god infulenced being and i doubt anyone considers Zombieman a god tier. God wanting her as a pawn also means little since even Full monster Garou was nowhere near his cosmic form in base.
At best you can argue she's the strongest top tier above Boros and Full monster Garou.
God tiers are characters within a similar ballpark above all others. There's no reason both in terms of feats or implications that could lead us to reasonably assume that Tatsumaki could fight on the same level as Saitama God and Garou
if you use calc stacking then boros gets 5-C physicals instead of just upscaling ridiculously high above the moon jump, so it's a little trollingAt best you can argue she's the strongest top tier above Boros and Full monster Garou.
He does this after using WSRSF, which takes one’s attack and uses it against them, striking with twice the power. That’s the very nature of the technique. Bang shouldn’t be scaling at all.see the last panel of the fight, were he punches garou in the face and cracks it
guess we'll make bang striking strength unknown, it's simply a skill issue (he is using martial arts)He does this after using WSRSF, which takes one’s attack and uses it against them, striking with twice the power. That’s the very nature of the technique. Bang shouldn’t be scaling at all.
I’m not going to keep explaining to you that Genos was so damaged that he needed a new body afterwards. Make a CRT if you’re so confident that Post-G4 Genos and everyone that scales to him should scale from Gouketsu.You can’t even present evidence that his physical body was badly damaged from the attack. He survived the attack on a physical level, his internal body being damaged from this attack doesn’t represent the idea that he doesn’t scale.