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Why is gouketsu going at full power again?
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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I never assumed he was at full power, Genos after basically tanking his punch, used his power scanners to analyze and conclude that Gouketsu’s punch was superior to Saitama and Tatsumaki.
Giving his biological circumstances a hard enough punch can knock his systems out of whack, like dropping an android can cause internal issues such as a messed up screen but the phone itself takes no physical damage.
He was missing an eyeball and the skin on his face but his physical body is almost untouched after the attack.
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It's just cracked
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Bang’s base being thousands of times weaker than awakening breath is so insanely ******
Garou masters awakening breath against bang after their fight starts and goes from being evenly clashing to being slightly stronger than bang, and we just treat it like this godlike multiplier
it hasn’t even been shown to affect durability either, since it’s quite literally just a breathing technique that is said to increase your power, not a transformation that increases your durability too
On top of that, after a weakened bomb held his own against Garou a few seconds earlier, bang literally went full power awakening breath against bomb knowing it wouldn’t kill garou, as he was intentionally leaving Garou alive. Basically he was confident that someone a weakened bomb could fight wouldn’t die if he went full power awakening breath for a moment.
Base bang should definitely not be below at least high 7-A+
Garou masters awakening breath against bang after their fight starts and goes from being evenly clashing to being slightly stronger than bang, and we just treat it like this godlike multiplier
it hasn’t even been shown to affect durability either, since it’s quite literally just a breathing technique that is said to increase your power, not a transformation that increases your durability too
On top of that, after a weakened bomb held his own against Garou a few seconds earlier, bang literally went full power awakening breath against bomb knowing it wouldn’t kill garou, as he was intentionally leaving Garou alive. Basically he was confident that someone a weakened bomb could fight wouldn’t die if he went full power awakening breath for a moment.
Base bang should definitely not be below at least high 7-A+
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which goes right back round to the idea that getting punched in the face would hamper your ability to think things clearly
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He literally said that he needed Kuseno to repair him, and the next time we see him, he’s in his Post-Superfight body.
We’re not scaling Genos to Gouketsu. Stop.
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Yeah, Bomb should probably at least dowscale from Surface Garou. We see Awakening Breath Bang (6-C) clash with Base Surface Garou.
Bomb was able to block attacks from and knock back Base Surface Garou. They even had a sequence similar to Bang and Garou's. At the very least, he should scale in speed for obvious reasons.
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Bomb also states Garou grew in stats, but that was only due to Garou awakening breath after the initial clash between AB bang and base Garou, which supports that until he did so, Garou did not grow significantly stronger in any way
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It’s not ******, Tatsumaki apparently getting over 703,968,253.96x weaker from a little blood lose is ******.
Awakening breath is stated to push the body to it’s limits, increasing it’s overall strength. Meaning their muscles bones etc all become stronger which would inherently increase their defenses.
Bomb is stated stronger than Bang, Garou was strong enough to break Bomb’s legs, Awakening Breath Garou could only do surface damage to Bang. That’s an overwhelming large difference in power going by this alone, Garou never showed the ability to fight evenly with AB Bang before using AB himself. Even Bomb was shocked by Garou fighting evenly with AB Bang despite him just clashing with Garou. That shows the large difference in AB and base.
Bang using Ab against Garou doesn’t mean he’s confident in it being incapable of killing Garou, all it proves is he needed a higher level of power at the moment and could hold back while in the state.
It’s like saying Goku going ssjb against krillin means he was confident in krillin not dying against, when in reality he can simply suppress his strength while in that state.
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What does thinking properly have to do with reading the energy levels being emitted off of something?
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He was ****** up by the cockroach don’t forget, and I’m not arguing that he wasn’t damaged by Gouketsu im arguing that the damaged wasn’t so much that he can’t downscale from the attack.
Not a valid reason to why we shouldn’t, possibly large island level genos. W
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if it was a normal human under those circumstances, it wouldve died ALOT earlier in the fight, wdym? like
she got crushed, pierced by eletrical spears, smashed into a ******* rock, and more
and theres like 5 scams of tatsumaki spitting blood oof
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Or alternatively, by limits it means pushing it as far as it can go without breaking
in real life you could technically throw a punch like 5 times harder than your previous maximum and it wouldn’t break your bones, but that doesn’t mean your bones got stronger, it just means that you’re throwing attacks as hard as your limit is, that is as hard as you can hit without breaking your bones from the impact
Bomb is stated to rival Bang, not be stronger. bang literally said that if Garou got a direct hit on him it would be over, which we see is true at the end of the fight. Garou literally has multiple durability negating martial arts anyways.
You could be shocked by someone being 1.5 times as strong as you irl. Being shocked is not a multiplier bro, the “large difference” is headcanon. Literally at the very beginning of the fight Garou and bang clash directly, and only a few moments after that does Garou master awakening breath.
He literally says he’s going all out, get your headcanon away from me.
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There are 5+ characters/keys vastly stronger than her, the phrase you’re looking for is top tier not god tier
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nah, she is still a god tier until blast’s team is relevant, and until this is not happening, she can even get individually stronger than most of them oof
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I can understand Tatsumaki being weakened after this attack, but Tatsumaki is also shown and stated to only have gotten weaker after going full power. Even after coughing gallons of blood and blood vessels popping in her eyes and scalp, she was literally unfazed panels later. Unless it’s directly stated she was weakened from an attack or using her powers, we shouldn’t assume she was.
Like bro, we’re assuming she was leas than 0.0000001% of her power, that’s ******* insane.
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And I’m telling you that we’re not scaling him to an attack that left him so badly damaged that he could barely move and then needed to have his body replaced.
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the moment when she said that she overused her power (she didnt even understand it), theres a HUGE FOCUS on the moon in the same scam. We can pretty much consider this GOD's influence, he personally weakened her. And i feel like that we are going to get another mention about this in a few chapters.
Also, all those damages that she suffered is enough to make her 1 billion times weaker, as i said, any human would die being damaged like that, and another thing, she wasnt on her peak when she twisted psykorochi, considering that espers gets weakened with physical damage in OPM verse.
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Csrc:
5-C garou:
Blast:
Cosmic Garou
Cosmic Garou again:
God:
The main character:
She is not a god tier
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How long till we scale his core to 4-A tho that’s the real shit
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CSRC is not even strong enough to defeat tatsumaki
Garou is just ONE character.
what the **** are you TALKING about?
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Csrc can’t one shot her but it does scale to a higher value, so…
and I said characters/keys anyways
We can also King’s luck hax scales higher
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First Boros vs Tatsumaki discussion of the year!
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i mean… what?Csrc can’t one shot her but it does scale to a higher value, so…
and I said characters/keys anyways
We can also King’s luck hax scales higher
keys ≠ different characters.
and if CSRC isnt strong enough to defeat her, this wouldnt put boros above her in anyway since she can just one shot the nonstamina alien after the glasscannon move OOF
1 saitama or god
2 saitama or god
3 garou
4 blast and his team
5 tatsumaki
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the discussion is not about this, this guy is trying to use keys as different characters to lower tatsumaki rank in the verse oof
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The only 3 100% god tiers of the verse are
1.God
2.Saitama
3.Cosmic Garou
And if you squint possibly Blast + Blastvengers, as they lack feats capable of directly matching the top 3 but are hinted to be around that level
All other characters have absolutely nothing that puts them directly on that level or implies them to be that strong without headcanon or wank.
1.God
2.Saitama
3.Cosmic Garou
And if you squint possibly Blast + Blastvengers, as they lack feats capable of directly matching the top 3 but are hinted to be around that level
All other characters have absolutely nothing that puts them directly on that level or implies them to be that strong without headcanon or wank.
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And this is just a different interpretation, no concrete evidence of the former or my argument. It’s a case by case situation and given the events taken place, it would and should increase their defenses.
Bomb>Bang
Garou can destroy Bomb’s bones
Garou(AB)=Bang(AB). His durability in fact increases.
If you can’t provide valid evidence proving he doesn’t get a durability boost then the burden is on you to prove their isn’t a difference in durability.
No, Murata stated that Bomb is stronger Bang. Given this knowledge, it’s impossible for AB not to increase durability.
I fail to see what Garou being capable of one shotting Bang proves, all this suggests is that Garou grow massively in battles/has stronger techniques in his arsenal. What is the relevancy is this statement?
You wouldn’t be capable of perceiving a 1.5x difference in strength in real life, this is fiction not real life. Stop making the petty comparisons. Bomb being surprised that someone who just pulverized his bones is fighting evenly with someone who is stated to be weaker than him is a large difference in power. It’s not head canon, it’s using evidence presented in the story itself.
According to you
AB Garou>=Normal Garou>Bomb>Bang=<AB Bang. It makes no sense, is contradictory and unsupported by anything presented in the story. It’s by definition, headcanon.
There’s almost no evidence that Bang was using full power in his initial dash towards Garou, where it’s literally them just jumping into each other and not a super charged punch using the explosive strength generated from their strikes.
Him using a superpowered state isn’t contradicted by him clearly holding back. He can go all out (using maximum potential) and suppress himself to a degree. It’s shown in series and would be contradictory if not the case.
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tatsumaki fought a GOD’s influenced being, that we don’t even know the full lenght of the powers, and this while holding back and protecting others.
and like, none but the others above her in the rank has the smallest chance of winning against her if she is all out
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You can’t even present evidence that his physical body was badly damaged from the attack. He survived the attack on a physical level, his internal body being damaged from this attack doesn’t represent the idea that he doesn’t scale.
No way in hell you believe Genos doesn’t downscale from an attack which would be over 4,000 times stronger than his current rating with his outer body literally being intact afterwards. Even a 10x difference in power can reduce something or someone to nothing.
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Why the hell is Bang even scaling to Garou in the first place. He only damaged Garou via WSRSF which uses Garou’s own energy against him.
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Homeless emperor is also a god infulenced being and i doubt anyone considers Zombieman a god tier. God wanting her as a pawn also means little since even Full monster Garou was nowhere near his cosmic form in base.
At best you can argue she's the strongest top tier above Boros and Full monster Garou.
God tiers are characters within a similar ballpark above all others. There's no reason both in terms of feats or implications that could lead us to reasonably assume that Tatsumaki could fight on the same level as Saitama God and Garou
At best you can argue she's the strongest top tier above Boros and Full monster Garou.
God tiers are characters within a similar ballpark above all others. There's no reason both in terms of feats or implications that could lead us to reasonably assume that Tatsumaki could fight on the same level as Saitama God and Garou
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see the last panel of the fight, were he punches garou in the face and cracks it
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do you really want to compare the case of homeless emperor and psykos combined to orochi?
both are on base high 6-a, and homeless emperor even after his powerboost he inst even on tier 6.
also, psykos was next to the cube, god's presence got confirmed to be more active those days…….
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if you use calc stacking then boros gets 5-C physicals instead of just upscaling ridiculously high above the moon jump, so it's a little trolling
also full monster garou stomps tatsumaki since he'd just keep growing anyways due to his weakened limiter
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He does this after using WSRSF, which takes one’s attack and uses it against them, striking with twice the power. That’s the very nature of the technique. Bang shouldn’t be scaling at all.
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guess we'll make bang striking strength unknown, it's simply a skill issue (he is using martial arts)
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I’m not going to keep explaining to you that Genos was so damaged that he needed a new body afterwards. Make a CRT if you’re so confident that Post-G4 Genos and everyone that scales to him should scale from Gouketsu.
