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for real?
Its OBVIOUS, O B V I O U S that she was vastly weaker there. She is just a human, almost died 200099 times and you still that she is at her peak? She is VASTLY weakened. Even Fubuki mentioned her powers to be unstsble. Also, ONE doesn’t need to mention that she was weaker, just use your brain. Tatsumaki couldn’t barely BREATH, she was almost FAINTING
FU does not scales to tatsumaki and will never scale, it totally makes no sense.
I never said she was at her peak. When did I say that? I said Tatsumaki has a tendency of being absolutely destroyed by attacks, and being literally unaffected. The only time she was affected by something was when she overused her own strength, even though she could still casually lift and spin the drill.
My argument is, despite being shown to be tired afterwards she casually did it and with no 2nd mention of a power drop it shouldn’t be assumed her power dropped
 
honestly, do you even read what you write? Tatsumaki is a HUMAN, doesnt even have regeneration, if she got electrocuted to death by psykos, OBVIOUSLY that she is N O T okay.

tatsumaki:bloodloss, almost fainting, smashed in the rock, almost raped



this guy: uuuuhhhr duuuuhrrrr tatsumaki wasnt weaker because ONE didnt create a databook that states this, even thought that she was almost death, im sure that she was at her peak bc i want to scale some ******* FODDERS to multicontinental level, such as FUHRER UGLY
Im not reading all that and it’s not that srs. If you don’t want to use your cognitive thinking don’t do it. Nobody is being scales to multi continental wth r u talking about
 
I never said she was at her peak. When did I say that? I said Tatsumaki has a tendency of being absolutely destroyed by attacks, and being literally unaffected. The only time she was affected by something was when she overused her own strength, even though she could still casually lift and spin the drill.
My argument is, despite being shown to be tired afterwards she casually did it and with no 2nd mention of a power drop it shouldn’t be assumed her power dropped
just a few moments after shotting the spear, tatsumaki was spitting blood and having problems to breath, also, her powers are UNSTABLE when she is weakned, so FU definetely does not scales to her, it's not like if she could just throw the spear again without dying.
Fubuki literally saying that her powers are UNSTABLE proofs this.https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/917231041511559189/917281234319708220/page_9.png
 
Im not reading all that and it’s not that srs. If you don’t want to use your cognitive thinking don’t do it. Nobody is being scales to multi continental wth r u talking about
multicontinental or large country, no matter what, no one but tatsumaki scales to the drill feat.
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fr, look at her face, she's clearly vastly weaker here
 
Heart form Orochi definitely does. It's pretty blatant.
It's blatantly not.

No matter what anyone says, a tiny portion of the drill's RKE that Timmy calculated (due to surface area being a thing) ripped it asunder in a matter of seconds.

Sure, it was vaguely intact upon passing the first layer of bedrock, but that's literally all I'll grant. It's the equivalent of giving an animal 9-C/9-B durability for becoming roadkill instead of vapour.

Y'all have bad arguments, and that's final. Thank you for cooming to my TED talk.
 
I agree with ByAsura. Orochi does not scale to the spear.
 
On this note, though, I do think it's at least a little worthwhile calculating the small portion of the energy that Orochi's heart took.

A single punch from DS ****** up a more intact heart to the point where Psykos had to abandon it.

So, maybe SD (and just SD, since MA PPP and Bang and Bomb needed a whole ass combo to do a fraction of that damage) would scale to some degree.
 
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On this note, though, I do think it's at least a little worthwhile calculating the small portion of the energy that Orochi's heart took.

A single punch from DS ****** up a more intact heart to the point where Psykos had to abandon it.

So, maybe SD (and just SD, since MA PPP and Bang and Bomb needed a whole ass combo to do a fraction of that damage) would scale to some degree.
i can see this as a nice possibilty of scaling, could be a buff for DS, they would just downscale the feat.
or maybe just a regen feat for orochi?? he was constantly regenerating while being piercing by the drill, even thought the GAP in AP would just delete him
idk
 
On this note, though, I do think it's at least a little worthwhile calculating the small portion of the energy that Orochi's heart took.

A single punch from DS ****** up a more intact heart to the point where Psykos had to abandon it.

So, maybe SD (and just SD, since MA PPP and Bang and Bomb needed a whole ass combo to do a fraction of that damage) would scale to some degree.
Yeah this and the Rover getting punched feat might yield some decent upgrades.
 
Also you are assuming Saitama made the hole that leads to the magma chamber when the narrator said it was Orochi
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I'm with Timmy on this one- the chasm they fall through is enormous and runs through the upper levels of the monster association clean to the surface. It must be over 100 meters wide at points

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That's important because Orochi says "not even my parents know of this place", presumably meaning that Psykos doesn't even know about it (unless there's some weird cosmological crap going on here that we're not privy to) and that it's a pretty secret place. Makes sense since Psykos didn't realize how strong Orochi really was later and consuming energy from the earth definitely contributed to that. Since the chasm looks like it's 100 meters wide in the shot where Saitama and Orochi are falling straight in, any human walking through Z-city could parachute down into Orochi's house from the chasm the moon looked through. Presumably Child Emperor's sattelite tech and surveillance would have picked up on that- and everyone in the monster association would know about it.

Plus, there's water falling down and you can't see this giant chasm in any of the shots before Saitama punches Rover even though it should be relatively close.

My conclusion?

The punch Saitama threw at Rover cracked the monster association clean to the surface and dramatically expanded the tunnel Orochi used to get to his resurrection chamber. Orochi was taking a lava bath or something and saw the hole in his roof expand and climbed up the new tunnel to see a man with a powerful aura standing in the obvious epicenter of the blast.
 
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fr, look at her face, she's clearly vastly weaker here
While I agree that she’s exhausted, nothing indicates that her telekinetic abilities are any weaker than her casual drill feat.
Without a proper statement its just a baseless claim.
It's blatantly not.

No matter what anyone says, a tiny portion of the drill's RKE that Timmy calculated (due to surface area being a thing) ripped it asunder in a matter of seconds.

Sure, it was vaguely intact upon passing the first layer of bedrock, but that's literally all I'll grant. It's the equivalent of giving an animal 9-C/9-B durability for becoming roadkill instead of vapour.

Y'all have bad arguments, and that's final. Thank you for cooming to my TED talk.
I agree with this, but he did tank the drill being slammed onto him so I’ll find the KE of that.
I’ll also try to find how much energy he would take giving his size.
 
Not really (and it should also be divided by surface area), but DS should scale anyway like I said.
 
Not really (and it should also be divided by surface area), but DS should scale anyway like I said.
I can understand surface area for the drilling part but taking the sphere head on? Wouldn’t he scale to the entire slam?
It hit him head on and slammed onto the rock before drilling down.
 
ugh, the drill was a last resort attack, theres no casual attack here, she almost fainted after firing it…
It wasn’t a last resort attack, if she could do that to a 10,000m piece of concrete she could have very easily have done that to Orochi. And the feat was very casual.

While being left exhausted her power shouldn’t have dropped massively afterwards, assuming it did is baseless. Tatsumaki has took far worse and kept her strength in check.
So unless it’s stated she lost power, let’s not assume so.
 
Pretty sure that's not how pressure or energy work.

If the Empire State Building, spire first, fell on you, you'd only be hit by something like 50 tons.
That’s if it pierced through you no?
If it fell directly on top of you and stood up straight ontop of you, you would be hit by the entire weight or the entire force. Since Orochi wasn’t pierced by it and it sat directly on top of of him he would scale right? Unless I’m misinterpreting something.
 
but DS should scale anyway like I said.
I think Genos and Drive knight should scale.
They could harm her with their combined attack.
Dk could also harm her by himself.
Her energy beams could clash with DK and Atomic Samurai could cut apart her energy beams.
Genos also blocked a blast from her.
 
Pretty sure it's no different.
Maybe I’ll have to see the opinion of other people, because if it hit him midair and drove through him like that, I’d understand, but in this case it impacted him head on, which would apply all of it’s force onto him as it came to a stop against him.
We even see that it’s force traversed off of the sphere into the surrounding area as it destroyed the ground underneath it.
Orochi’s heart being the epicenter would have had all that force applied to himself.
 
That’s if it pierced through you no?
If it fell directly on top of you and stood up straight ontop of you, you would be hit by the entire weight or the entire force. Since Orochi wasn’t pierced by it and it sat directly on top of of him he would scale right? Unless I’m misinterpreting something.
I agree with Timmy here. If the Empire State Building were to drop on you and somehow not break or pierce through you, you would be feeling the entire force of it, not just the weight of the tip.
 
It wasn’t a last resort attack, if she could do that to a 10,000m piece of concrete she could have very easily have done that to Orochi. And the feat was very casual.
what? lifting strenght ≠ ap
being able to lift orochi ≠ being able to one shot him, and what does it have to do about it being casual or not? As i said, she ALMOST fainted just after firing it, the feat DEFINITELY wasn’t casual. Bro, FU wont scale.
Also what is baseless for you? Do you want a databook explaining this? A character almost dying isnt enough to be considered weakned? Like common sense.
 
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